Lyndka Cochrane

If a composer wanted to write a musical theme for Second Life then "group chat's not working" would make a nice recurring hook

Group chat has always been flaky sadly, mostly because of how it was originally implemented & now and again the traffic in the group chat channels overwhelms the servers that operate it (it's been like this since about 2009 from memory). The Labs did build some 'sensing' in to the servers a couple of years back that could detect when they were floundering and reset the traffic queues but that only seems to kick in once it's too late. I suspect that a wholesale reworking of group chat is either underway or about to happen now that the uplift has happened - the metrics from that will help determine the bottlenecks I think so will allow a better perspective for the software guys. Group's & chat seem to be very interwoven in to the viewer somehow (which is why for a ruth'd AVie - changing active groups sometimes fixed the ruth because it forced a visible cache reset - lord knows why!) which has so far prevented a wholesale rewrite. The groups system needs looking at and adding the ability to sense in a script an AVies "role" in the group, notices to only a specified role in the group, more roles per group (so we don't have to use staff groups & customer groups) and so on. I suspect it's on a shopping list/to do list somewhere in the labs but making the grid more expandable & durable has obviously been the priority over the last year or so.

Look us up... you might find some folks that will love your sense of humour too... ShenaniganS Music Cafe

*takes a sip* Aaaaah lovely - just how I like it - thank you!! 😄

Ooooh ta!!! Drop of milk so it's brown and half a spoon of sugar please

But you got here.... we drank all the Guiness though

The "lag" is texture lag - if you go somewhere you've not visited before then the textures on all the stuff around you has to be sent to your computer before it can render them - this can be worse in venues with a lot of mesh (though builders are a lot better at cutting it down by optimising texture use). Depending on the viewer you're using there are a couple of steps you can take to help things... A. In Preferences > Network & File > Directories make sure your cache size is about 3/4 along from the left AND your cache location is on a drive other than "drive C". More cache at least means your viewer can store local to you more of the textures - on another drive means you're not "fighting" Windows for disc access. B. In Preferences > Graphics > Hardware settings set the "Texture Memory Buffer" to about 50% of what's showing available on your machine. The viewer's engine is very bad at hogging memory & not releasing it if you leave it set to 100%. If you're not visiting a scenic sim i.e you're visiting a shop or club then in the Graphics menu - set your draw distance down to around 184m. The default setting means as you cam around - you're viewer tries to download textures for stuff you can't even see (even stuff behind walls or in the next sim over!) - that can also cause lag. Some of these issues will be mitigated by moving to "the cloud" but the final bottleneck will always be your computer & the bit of wire that connects where you live to the internet.

Perhaps try finding some of the folks in this thread?

We've added a Skippy table this morning to go alongside the Greedy & Cards Against Humanity tables, so you can meet friends during the day & play some games - after all there's only so many replays of "Bake Off" you can watch whilst England is locked down

Yeah - some places can seem a little cliquey - more often folks are in IM's with friends & just using the location as rez point to enable that. Try "Search..." there's lots of cool places to find with people that actually to new players

We're having a Halloween party on Friday starting at 6pm - we're drawing a raffle at 8pm with L$1000 cash prize. If you'd like to enter then you need a VIP tag for ShenaniganS, have a Pick for us in your Top 5 Picks and be older than 5 days old. You can come in your favourite Halloween costume too!

Well certainly we're not bothered at ShenaniganS if you're not... As long as you're not offended by bawdy chat about bodily functions or food in local then you'll feel at home 😆 We don't even check to see if you're wearing underwear! Pop over and have a look sometime - we usually start around 6pm UK time

There's a few places I can suggest if you're looking for fellow lockdown inmates 😉 ShenaniganS Music Cafe on Ocean of Orchids - keeps UK hours most week days from 10am SLt - it's a cool place (saying that not just because I'm the owner, folks do like us) Flamingo Bay - operates most weekdays from 1pm SLt - there's a nice crowd there too Pandemonium on Sensual Fun - operates weekdays too from 1pm SLt The Sexy Brit - tends to be weekends but gets a nice crowd too We're on the grid doing it - in ShenaniganS case this is our 6th year - not taking ourselves too seriously but offering good music & good company. Come have a look round sometime - tea's always mashing!

Apparently not... The API offered by Flickr is constantly being updated by Flickr and Linden Labs can't devote the time to keep up. So they disabled the ability but Firestorm are talking about putting a previous version in to their viewer sometime in the future.

Sorry for the necro post but Sai of SHX will be slow replying - when I last spoke to him he was busy in RL building an online ordering website for a supermarket and that was eating all his time. Have you tried adding the SHX experience to your Land properties? We've done that for our dance machines and had no issues with them.

That's what exactly what I've told our hosts... As a club we post events anyway and we won't mind paying the listing costs - it comes out of our donation jar not our hosts tip jars. I've told our hosts & DJ's that if they want to post an extra event for their set (they may be doing a music or costume theme) then we will re-imburse for that post if they wish - however, I'm not going to re-imburse for multiple posts.... I'm hoping it will cut down the clutter and crap AND it has the side effect that now it's a paid for service - the labs can be held responsible for it and and hopefully improve it more.

I've hosted a charity fundraiser in SL since 2015 and "cashed out" after each event to make the actual donation to the RL Charity. In 2017 & 2018 - the cash out was delayed whilst my account was "verified" - to be honest I don't remember supplying documentation to prove that the PayPal account was mine but then I've slept since. Does this mean that I will have to provide proof of my identity again? I live in the UK - don't have a current passport nor a photo driving licence and the "Citizen Card" is a commercial thing - it's not government issue, we scrapped ID cards back in 2011, I don't have paper utility bills nor paper bank statements - am I going to spend weeks proving I'm me (again)?

ShenaniganS Music Cafe has been on the grid for 5 years presenting fabulous DJ'd & Live music to an appreciative, loyal & generous fan base. We now need more hosts to help us entertain a growing number of guests during their visits. We're looking for folks who can work reliably from 11am SLt onwards with a couple of slots that urgently need hosts at 2pm with fab DJ's We're a small friendly club and everyone keeps 100% of your tips. Our music style is from the 40's through to today (though we don't play a lot of blues or country) and you will be happy to chat with guests, not spam gestures all the time. You MUST have some experience already of hosting - we can't provide training for someone who's not hosted before, we don't have the time to do that sadly. You don't have to be a human AVie to apply... Come for a look round and see what we've created and pick up an application form at the machines near the barn. http://maps.secondlife.com/secondlife/Ocean Of Orchids/114/109/29

I filed a ticket and was asked to remove @ and & from the event title and description to see what happened. I did that and the description text had inverted comma's/quote marks which the editor code turns in to & and # so it failed It would seem that someone is trying to protect against SQL/PHP injection attacks via the events entry screen perhaps - FaceBook and Wordpress manage to protect against such attacks and allow punctuation and symbols - perhaps there's lag in the Labs web development team?

Yeah - I understand all of that but I've done the same as I did last year after the event - asked to cash out to the Paypal account registered to my Second Life account, then I'll use that PayPal account to donate the JustGiving page we set up for the event.

@Tari LandarThanks - I'm sort of on their side too - it's just the "we've changed things and by the way you should have done this but we're not telling folks..." attitude that seems implicit in their response so far. Since we started the fundraiser in 2015 - we've never been challenged to this degree, folks have been happy that we've shown the JustGiving page we've set up to receive the donation and screenies of that as we've made the final donation. I've submitted a support ticket (as suggested) elsewhere to ask for links to guidelines/knowledgebase/sign up form they can point me to.

It would also seem that Linden Labs now expect some sort of notification or registration of fundraiser events (can anyone else confirm this?)... The venue I own has held a 3 day event in 2015, 2016 and this year with DJ's & performers giving us time so that we can collect donations for Great Ormond Street Hospital. In both 2015 and 2016 - we cashed out and donated via JustGiving without any issues but this year I've been asked to prove my identity (in spite of being a player since 2006 with a premium account in goodstanding and landholding) and now I'm being asked to prove that the event happened by providing blog posts, SL Events (for an event in July!) and it would seem that a FaceBook page for the event won't do... We were considering a small scale event in September because we had some folks on holiday or tech issues and couldn't perform but if the strictures/registration are going to be lengthy then we shan't bother or we'll just have a MOAP to the JustGiving page and hope that folks donate anyway. Has anyone come across a knowledgebase article or wiki dealing with this issue i.e. fundraising for a small charity? Unless the Lab's approach is codified then folks might be discouraged from holding small fundraisers if they can't get the L$ out easily to make a donation (in our case we're taking about L$200k so I dont have that sort of money in RL to make the donation and just use the L$ donated - I would feel VERY uneasy about doing that anway).

Certainly the issue for me as a club owner is that SHX provides some nice options for controlling and distributing our streams that I haven't seen elsewhere (yet!) such as multiple remote controls from multiple parcels (our club is parcelled to allow different windlight & voice options on different sectors), sending of stream details to a different region, multiple DJ setups using notecards - some boards allow multiple DJ's via dialog boxes but it only takes one wrong button to make mistakes & reset everything. We do use these SHX options every week and we play work from new artists so having music/artists info on display for our guests is important to us. To be honest, the song rating integration devices, DJ schedule board/log in & tip jar login are SHX features I could do without and there are some features missing such as 'jukebox' station selection for VIP's (so they can chose a stream on some parcels when they visit and don't need land rights to swap), "most selected stream" stats, stream scheduling that allows creation of a schedule using legible/meaningful syntax on buttons or an NC that allows previously stored streams to be selected at certain times. Sorry this became a bit of a shopping list but it does show that SHX is used because of the control/expansion features they offer and so if Sai has disappeared never to update again, it will cause a deal of stress. A simple stream board with some bouncing EQ bars and song title just won't do for a lot of venues I'm afraid. I'm aware that there are scripters/creators reading here wondering whether it's worth extra effort - well yes, we'd certainly buy your products, we might even help fund development.

Oz - just to say "Thank you" and the folks at the desks around you for your work on this - I'm sure you'll reach some resolution, your tenacity in trying to resolve this issue is impressive.

Look up Blublaize in-world.... He's a darned good builder and does our theme plots and has also created themed sims for other folks. If you want to see his work - Search "Peacehaven" in-world on Shiga - that's his showcase piece. Tell him that Lyndka said to get in touch...