Ghosty Kips

*ahem* @Ghosty Some web browsers show a special icon or other indicator that enables subscriptions. Various newsreaders like Google Reader also have feed detection. @Torley yes, I know this. However, a direct link on the web page to the RSS feed helps those of us who may be using something other than Google Reader, or aren't using one of those web browsers as they're on a dumbphone or other mobile device that's not so web-savvy. And, a mobile version of the web site would be nice for those of us who *are.*

Can an obvious link to each blog's RSS feed be made, so we can subscibe to what we like by section? And, will a mobile-compatable format be introduced soon?

Facebook and Twitter should be used in addition to official channels, not as official channels. The #1 place to find out about what's up in SL should be the official web site, and not a third party social site that has nothing to do with SL at it's core.

did you ever see a linden kiss a llama on the linden llama's linden tastes of linden llama linden duck (sorry)

I met the RL love of my life inworld (actually on the old forums, followed by a few virtual dates) ... though we're not involved inworld in any significant way anymore, we got our start here and if it weren't for SL we'd likely never have met at all.

I am so psyched to see you in the world, actually LEARNING how to do stuff. This is NOTHING but good! I hope you break out your alt and get involved with some of the social groups, and learn how Residents use the platform - equally important, and frequently where LL has missed the mark. (And you didn't overdo the plants at all.) Welcome Rod!

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Joshe, actually, they do take them back for services already. You can cash out your lindens to pay your tier and Premium membership - I did that for two years. And cash out the rest to put in your bank account if you have enough. Those lindens came from my customers, I didn't buy them. Did you think LL was just giving away free money?

Incorrect Joshe. They do "print" the lindens, but they dont give them away for free. Any lindens given to them are bought and paid for - it represents money already in their pool. If you give LL L1,000, that's actually $4 or so they already have. And the 'ruin inworld search to drive the marketplace' is almost a meme by now.

How about you guys just fix search so it's fair for everyone, instead of finding another new way to ask us for more money?

thats where the secret snowball weapon info is being kept.

Heck, times for some of these events for people outside the United States would be good, too. Winterfest is for everyone, not just Americans.

A 115% increase in web sales does NOT mean there are more shoppers, or that there is more shopping. Since we haven't had a 115% population increase in SL, it more likely means the same shoppers are shopping on the web site instead of doing it inworld. Why would people do that? Oh, let's see ... search has been borked for over a year? The newest changes favor large parcel owners over smaller ones? The inworld population has been dropping? "Although there may have been fewer economically active accounts in Q3, this suggests the L$ in those accounts did not exit Second Life." Meaning no one had enough to bother cashing out with. HOW MANY "fewer economically active accounts" are there now? Where's THAT number?

Absolutely excited about ALL of this! Except for Display Names, about which you people have been told AD NAUSEUM no one but a very small minority wants, for a lot of very good reasons ... the rest of the stuff has been a very long time in coming and I'm personally stoked to see it on the list. Excellent!

I've never been able to rez a prim "in the air." I have to have a surface - another prim, or the ground - to create the prim on, or to drag one onto from my inventory. The easiest way is to be on the ground, create/rez a platform prim to work on there, then sit on the edge of it. Once seated, edit the prim's z-axis to whatever height you like, and you'll move with the prim to the desired altitude. Make sure you're wearing a "flight feather" if you move the prim very high, since when you stand up there's a very good chance you'll have nothing under your feet - and you want to be able to at least fly back up to stand on your platform.

We were promised - PROMISED - that the Marketplace would not be opened until the work was done. THE WORK IS NOT DONE. The listings are not up to what merchants need to sell product, the emails are still not in a format we really need, our stars and reviews are not completely migrated over, relevant search is not working right, the favorites list is wiped out - but off we go anyway. The mysterious "boxless" system has me irritated the most. Until it's rolled out so we can at least SEE it - because you've given us nothing as far as details on how it will work and how our product changes can or will be handled - our listings with version number in the product names are held captive. Completely unfair to people who have marketed good products for the long term. NO MAJORITY OF YOUR CUSTOMERS, NOT EVEN A SIZABLE MINORITY OF THEM, ASKED FOR THIS MARKETPLACE. In and of itself it's a fine idea, a shiny new marketplace sounds nice - but as usual, you took it upon yourselves to dismantle a working system and replace it with an as-yet unfinished one. And I'm tired of making the point over and over that half-baked product from Linden Lab replacing what actually works is one of the key issues driving the numbers down. When will you people figure it out?

Personally, I'm curious to know how much money you people wasted on that stupid enterprise.

Giving the 13-15 year old kids their own place on the grid, under the auspices of an educative community, is way OK with me. As those accounts can't go anywhere on the grid except the sims they're limited to, then wonderful. But ... any kid can take a throw-away email, create a free avatar on their own account and wander anywhere on the grid they choose (save those sims that need adult verification). Linden Lab stopped any pretense of preventing this once free unverified accounts were allowed. So I fail to see why some of you are all uptight about little Johnny or Jane camming in to your sim - they've been at it for years already, and Linden Lab will do nothing to prevent it.

Interesting to note that I know a few users who use the "view" and "camera" control panels on laptops, because they are without mice and it provides a little more control for them.

"Some of you have suggested disallowing the Display Name from matching any previous Username, but as we have used many millions of names for accounts already that would make Display Names very hard to use as most names would be blocked." "Along with many other services across the Internet, Second Life needs to separate the unique identifier you use to log in with from the name you are known as inworld. By insisting that the two needs be served by one name, we make it nearly impossible for anyone to use their real name, nickname, role-play name or their social Web identity within Second Life." "We recognise that we need to offer this capability in a way that best preserves your unique inworld identity and protects you, as much as possible, against the risks of impersonation and griefing which are the areas where a large bulk of your concerns lie." One of these things is not like the others ... I appreciate the changes, and your listening to our concerns. But these statements show us all that you people are STILL not on board as to WHY Display Names was a bad idea in the first place. I'll mimic what Ceera Murakami said above. I am registering my name as a DBA, and I already have the paperwork drawn up for a trademark. I want the ability to protect that name from fraudulent usage. If I need to pay a nominal fee, so be it.

Yoz, please pardon my simple-mindedness, but I'm having the darndest time finding the right place/format to post a bug concerning the new bug tracker itself. Can you point me in the right direction? Thanks!

Bear in mind the #1 reason why we're doing this: we want to fix more bugs faster and more transparently. This is far from the only work that needs to happen for that, but it's a big step towards it. As always, a concise and detailed answer. I appreciate the explanations ... I was having a rough night last night. And I agree, anything that makes the JIRA more efficient is a good thing. As for that example - My bookmark to WEB-2218 takes me to the dashboard after the ID login redirect. If I use that bookmark (or any bookmark) to an issue after that login, it takes me to the intended page.

The under-the-hood and backend changes are great. Anything to make the JIRA more efficient is awesome. But ... why does there always have to be a string of "buts" regarding frivolous items? "Released" is now "resolved?" Really? What IS is with you people and changing things that don't need changing? How does "released" make sense with a bug in something that's already released? You don't release a bug, you resolve a bug. You release a bug fix, and just because a fix is in doesn't mean it's been released, does it? Why add confusion to an already fairly complex thing? WHY? The old JIRA had a very business-like look to it. This looks like ... well, the rest of the web properties. Not business-like. More, social-networky-like, except harder to read. Not everything needs this goofy green and ultra-thin font, you know. Changed the emails too? Now I get to change my filters? Thanks! Not. Best of all, my bookmarks to specific issues now take me to ... the dashboard! Very helpful! Especially when the issue I bookmarked isn't on it! Awesome. I'm NOT A FAN, Yoz. I don't mean you, I think you're alright ... but these cosmetic changes were unnecessary, and are not an improvement. Can't you guys ever accept that when something isn't broke, you don't need to "fix" it?

"You should poll people before doing anything new"I completely disagree with this, and yes, I know saying that will make me some enemies. The only polling worth anything is true random sampling and that's both expensive and doesn't help with design. Voluntary polls and votes are basically worthless -- they're completely subject to advocacy and gaming. Without a sample implementation to try out, most people (I didn't say everyone, so please don't accuse me of that.) don't know what they want. The average desired change is usually no change at all. In general, I think we want to try things out in some sort of "real" form, which is what Project Viewers are for. There are many ideas people have for what would make a better viewer. Some of them come from Lindens, some from residents. Snowstorm is trying to put all these ideas on an equal footing and implement as many as possible, as quickly as possible. This is wrong on a couple of counts. 1. True random sampling is not expensive. You have a company full of coders. Take a couple of them, who are already getting paid by your company, and have them write it up. Send it to a random number of accounts who have logged in in the past month or so. A simple check for auth is all it takes. It will not cost LL one penny more than they're already paying them to do other important things, like "Display Names" and "Invite your friends to SL" widgets. 2. You have no idea that "most people don't know what they want," because you've done no polling on the issue. If "the average desired change is usually no change at all," then obviously Viewer 2 was something desired by LL, and not something desired by its customers, and the feedback since it's release bears that out. "Watch what the TPVs do and do that"TPVs can afford to try partial solutions and see what sticks because they usually address an advanced use case. They can ship buggy, incremental work because their customers know that's what to expect. Our official solutions need to be complete and suitable for all users, including newcomers. (Yes, it's acknowledged that we haven't always succeeded at this, but it is our goal). We can learn from popular features in TPVs. But we intend to lead as well with new stuff that's not in the TPVs. Snowstorm is trying a similar approach to TPVs - and more than just with Project Viewers. Because we make the development builds available, you can try work in progress and see new features take shape. Some features are still half-baked, but you can try them and provide feedback to make them better (which you can't always do with a TPV). I applaud the Snowstorm effort and think it's a good thing to do. But your solutions are NEVER complete, and are are ALWAYS buggy, just like every TPV viewer out there, and just like the TPVs, we know to expect it from LL as well. Every single viewer LL has put out has bugs. Every single viewer LL has put out was not "complete." If they had no bugs and were complete, new versions wouldn't be necessary. And, when the community at large DOES provide feedback on an unwanted-as-is feature in the viewer, you hand us the following: "Linden isn't listening now and Display Names is evidence"I'm not on the Display Names team, so I'm not going to comment on it, except to say that pointing at something and saying "see, it's horrible!" isn't actually very convincing. But this blog post is not the place to have that debate. You're correct, this isn't the place to have the Display Names debate. This is the place to have the "Linden isn't listening" debate. So, as I believe I brought up earlier in this thread, if you're not going to listen to what we want, why bother giving you the feedback? What good is "working in the open" if no one tunes us in anyway? You're already of the opinion that polling us is useless, we don't want change, we don't know what we want ... please tell us the part that deals with why we should bother? "Viewer 2 sucks, throw it out and go back to 1.23"Well, we've said it before -- we know we missed the mark with some of 2.x -- but it's our base going forward. It's not a complete rewrite as some have indicated -- but it has some major architectural improvements under the covers. I know a lot of people don't like chunks of the UI, but we're going to push forward and fix it, not go backwards to an obsolete platform. While the 1.xx platform is obsolete - the issue is not with the platform, but with the UI. If the 1.xx UI is obsolete, it's only in your own minds; some very popular TPVs still use it as their base, and even with Emerald off the map you're seeing a significant number of customers using TPVs based on the 1.xx UI rather than the 2.xx UI. I see no reason why the functionality of Viewer 2 cannot be applied to a 1.xx-style UI.

I think there's been just a tiny bit of confusion ... "going back to 1.23" clearly isn't going to happen, but there's nothing saying that the 1.23 interface can't be applied to the v2.x codebase. The biggest complaint I and everyone else has had, as far as I can tell, is the interface. The features haven't been a problem. Going back to a v1.23-style interface absolutely can be done.