Trinity Yazimoto

Condamnante wrote: Everything you said can be done in mouselook. Well, thank you , but there is no way i use the cam movements using shift, ctrl and alt + mousewheel with mouselook. i have zero interest in spying ppl, but i do photography and also use my cam while im building, creating or even shopping. Other ppl's pricacy is not the center of the world, there are other interests too. If you want noone can cam on you, you should rather play the Sims. If i lose my ability to use my cam whatever it is for my business, for my photography, or just to have a general view of a sim im exploring, SL will no longer be SL, i will no longer enjoy it the way it do today.

yes, but it looks like LL has not the same definition for "version" than many of us. Like you, i would call the different colors of an item "versions" or at least "colors version", but LL doesnt. For them a version is more like "special version", or "seasonal version", or whatever else, but 2 versions of the same item cant be sold at the same time.

yes, well i also got the 2 emails last night. one saying they were starting the migration, one another saying they did all the job, and its ok.. I giggled. i did all myself 2 week ends ago lmao. They did nothing... all was already done. Ah yes, they did something ! they didnt messed anything ! Hurrah !!!!!

Hunnihope is right. A parent folder is not the main tittle of an outfit that you will have in several colors. A parent folder is THE item folder. The version folder that you will have inside is the current version of this precise item. If you want to update it one day, let's say you want to update a top, or you want to add an applier, or just change your LM, you just have to change the thing u want to add or replace in the version folder. But you can also want to sell an improved version for one week for a special occasion. (let's say your outfit will come with handbag as a bonus for xmas period, and the top will have "happy Xmas " printed on the front). In that case, as you want to make this offer each xmas, you just have to drag the improved version folder in your parent folder and make that one active. After your week of promotion you can put the other back to active, and you may keep the xmas version there (unactive) for the next xmas. Why could this be useful.. idk... i dont see any use for myself, but well.... maybe some merchants will be happy to use this possibility. That said, you still can add a parent folder. There is a symbol "+" at the bottom . click it and it will create a new folder that you ll have to rename. But in any case dont put your several colors in the same parent, bec only one will be able to be active.

Pierre, i think u must download this viewer : http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Release_Notes/Second_Life_Release/3.8.2.303583 this is the one that has been released for VMM and it works. you will find the VMM in the me menu, then u open it and copy your folders in the VMM window or just move them there. There will create the parent folder themselves and inside those ones you will find the "version folders" with your items inside.

happy too to see its not just me either !

This is precisely the reason why i took 2 half days on my already busy schedule for doing the migration myself. There is no way i let a team who already displayed their skills for messing things, doing the migration of my store if i m given the possibility to do the migration myself. Now i cross my finger for they dont mess it anyway. Last time when we migrated to the DD system, i did also the migration myself, but they ve managed anyway to find a way to mess my pics and so ive been left with ugly pics on some of my listings for about 13 monthes with zero ability to fix it myself. So well, i hope, they will refrain to touch to the stores already migrated this time.

bonjour tu n'as pas besoin de lier ton paypal à une carte de credit pour l'utiliser sur sl, mais tu dois avoir un paypal verifié. pour celà il y a une procedure sur le site du compte paypal. il te faudra imprimer un formulaire et le porter à ta banque. paypal fera un petit prelevement d'un euro environ, pour verifier (qu'ils te rendront ensuite) et il te confirmeront que ton compte est desormais verifié. la procédure prend de quelques jours à 2 semaines. ensuite une fois que c'est fait tu peux l'utiliser sans probleme, en ignorant la partie du bas relative à la carte de credit et en n'utilsant que la partie du haut (utilser mon compte paypal), et ca marche tres bien.

Ok it looks like Brooke have read my comment here about the Jira and ask me more details but i cant answer in the jira because comments are still closed. I have edited my comment there in order to give details but for being sure she has them, im going to say here too, and i m going to try to be the clearest possible, as english is not my native language. So. while i was manually migrating my mp store yesterday, i was moving my folders to the VMM window. so far so good. For 80 % of them, it works correctly. Each folder once in the VMM created its parent folder and became a subfolder (version folder) with all the items inside, thus keeping its integrity. For 20% of them, it didnt behave like that. I did move the the folders the same way, it created the parent folder the same way but surprise, inside the parent folder my original folder was split in 2 or 3 subfolders. My items were spreaded into those subfolders. Sometimes i had a notecard only in one of the subfolders. but most of the time, my items were spreaded randomly between the 3 folders. At first i thought i made something wrong, so i deleted and moved again. It did the same. So i created a new folder in the VMM and moved the folder inside it, it behave correctly. I renamed the new folder and went on on the migration. This happened again, several time. At the end i did just manually moved all the items into the same subfolder and deleted the ones left empty. I suspected that maybe this was happening to a folder with more items than the other ones, but no. The folders were not bigger than the other ones. and it looks like it was happening randomly. Sometimes moving again the folder was working fine. Sometimes not. So well, what is the expected behavior ? the 80 % who worked fine, or the 20 % tricky ones. I tried to find obvious reasons for the 20 % behavior but i could not find any. This is why i asked here in my first post.

Ah, the answer we got from Brooke Linden in the Jira about the fact some folders ended splited in several subfolder while you drag them to the VMM (https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VMM-95?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels%3Acomment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=473940) is at the very least..... interesting and tasty. :smileyvery-happy: So it was an "expected behavior".... so this lead me to think that bugs are then expected behavior for any new LL improvement, and then suddendly it explain so well, all the numerous bugs we had to go thru all along the years lol. an "expected behavior" as she says, would make this happen EACH TIME a folder is dragged to the VMM without creating a top level folder. But the problem is that it doesn't happen EACH time. 80 % of the time, it doesnt happen. The folder is dragged to the VMM window and all is fine. A top level folder is automatically created and the folder with the items becomes the subfolder keeping its integrity. Yet for 20 % of my folders the "expected behavior " happened. Without obvious reason. So maybe should i report the 80 % of the folders safe from this "expected behavior" as a bug ? :smileyvery-happy: And of course she closed the Jira and .... the ability to discuss her point of view at the same time.

Tango appliers are huds that will apply a texture on Lola tango boobs. Those ones are mesh boobs you can buy and add to your avatar , if you want mesh boobs. There are a lot of other brands for mesh body parts. And there are also complete mesh bodies too. If you use the default SL avatar, then you can wear tops, pants, underwears, tattoos by simply using layers, they come in the inventory with an icon looking like shirt, pants or other clothing pieces. But when you use a mesh bodypart or a mesh body, the layers you will apply on your sl avatar wont show bec you have the mesh part over it. So, in order to be able to wear this shirt (or whatever else item that is not a mesh item), you will need to use what they call : "Appliers". Those will be worn as a hud, so showing on your screen, like an AO, and you will have to click the button on it in order to make appear the shirt on the mesh bodypart you are using. As there are a lot of brands selling bodyparts, there are often several appliers (one for each brand) bec they are not working all the same way, or some use a more universal system called Omega that works on several brands. So if you dont own mesh boobs lola Tango, you dont need tango appliers, or at least, check just that the item comes ALSO with the layer version of the top, so you can wear it on your default avatar. Texture changing huds, are in the same spirit. They are things that will appear on your screen once you wear them, with buttons and you can click the button with the color you want. This should change the texture on the mesh item you are wearing. So its just like if you buy 10 dresses of different colors in one. You buy one, and the hud will allow you to switch to a color or to another. I hope my explanations are not too much blurry.

kalliopi Ziplon wrote: Thank you all!!! So so much!!!! i do not have them in my inventory because i was at 50,000 items and my new clothes i have more than 42 items in an outfit so i did not want to make my inventory any bigger , i know its a mistake but i did it . Now i need to make my items better by rename them in a better way & to have the same name as the boxes that i will make them folders, people got mad because the name are not the same & because they have to open boxes . i have reduce my MP to almost 3000 items from 4500 items but real life does not let me work many hours on it , deleting old stuff and test deliver them so i can have them . if only we can test deliver many at one time rather than one by one .... you can still keep them boxed, so it will solve the pb of too much big folders and wont flood dramatically your inventory. As rya said, it looks like you dont have to send them back manually to your inventory, LL will do this for you automatically. So it solves your problem. But well, that's a good opportunity to clean a bit our MP store. I did deleted some older stuffs and corrected some listing. But of course, my store is not as big than yours lol. I delete oldest stuffs periodically, making then things easier to manage, as i m not SL full time either. You can do the same action to a bunch of items at the same time. By checking the boxes of each item you would like to unlist or delete (for instance) in the list, then at the bottom of the list you have a lil menu with the action you would like to apply to the checked items. You choose one then you click on "Go" and it applies the action to all the listings you have selected in one time.

Rya Nitely wrote: Trinity Yazimoto wrote: from what i understood you must have them in your inventory for they do the link to the mp listing. This must be why no copy item in magic box wont be migrated automatically, bec as they are not in the inventory but in the magic box, LL team wont be able to move the item from inventory to VMM inventory So everything you dont have in your inventory when they will do the migration of your store, wont be migrated and from my guess, they will be unlisted. So my advice would be you take a bit of time before the 23rd and send back to your inventory each item you dont have in your inventory right now. This is not correct. Well if im wrong then it solves the problem of the OP. As i said in my post you quoted, that was my understanding. I didnt know they would send back to inventory as i have read they wont do automatically the magic box, so i thought it was bec they were not in the inventory yet. But indeed, copy items have been sent to the MP server via merchant outbox anyway, which is not the case of the items inside magic boxes, working differently. Thank you then for the clarification.

The thing is that there is no obvious reason for this subfolder bug happens. i thought at first it was maybe happening to folders with a certain ammount of items inside, but it doesnt seem to be that. Good things you made a Jira Tamarsk, at first i didnt saw it as a bug, this is why i asked the reason for why this happens to some of my folders, but well, if it's a bug, then LL has to fix this right away. We are starting a new system, it should work correctly and not starts with bugs yet.

hum maybe what happens to your folders is what i said in my first post : why some folders when i move them to the VMM come splited in several sub folders ? In that case what i did, is move the contents of the extra sub folders to the first one and deleted then the empy subfolders. i understand your decision to let LL do it, bec of the huge amount of items you have. Maybe if i had the same ammount of items than you i would have done this too. idk but for your problem with separated mesh and sculpty mp store, it was like this before. One MP store by avatar. So the new system wont change this. But why not create an alt with a name quite similar to yours and open another mp store for one category items under the same name but with its specificity in it ? It will force you to manage also the second account, but if u set it to the same mail adress, you still can manage those 2 pretty easily, imho. i wish you good luck with the Migration done by LL. I hope they wont mess things this time.

Ok thank you for the clarification Whirly. I suspected this and as i had some new listing to send, i did from the VMM viewer anyway. I will wait till firestorm team add this feature to their viewer )

i do appliers for Maitreya, Belleza, Slink, Omega and TMP i got kits inworld for Maitreya and Belleza. Both support materials now. and works pretty the same way. For Omega i got my kit from their store or their MP (i dont rem). New version support materials BUT you cant assembly buttons together in order to create a HUD (unless they changed recently, i must check) AND for the bodies working with OMEGA relay, the relays are not materials ready. Thus if i do Omega with materials i cant see them on my maitreya body, so i cant test them, This is why i chose to keep with Omega without materials for now. I did applied for Slink kit on their web. They say we must wait 15 days at least before we recieve the kit. I must say this been faster. I got a visit from them in my store just somedays after i ve applied and i got the kit right after. Slink kit has been a bit tricky to start with, as we must use the body targets etc but after a first time, it goes faster now. For TMP, i did applied on their web site too. I had to wait for about 2 monthes before having, first an invitation to their group and then 2 notecards with instructions about how to get the kit from their website. As Bobbie said it works from an external database and there are some intellectual properties issue with that too. But well, i decided to go anyway. Once you get used to their system, appliers are not that hard to create. BUT i had to buy a starter TMP mesh body for 1k (if i rem well) in order to be able to check if my appliers are working well, bec the free version of their body has not appliers option. I dont find this super fair to ask creators to pay in order to create items that will work with their mesh body. They dont provide any other way to check. (and still i cant test before create the applier, because otherwise i must buy the DELUXE edition which is way more expensive than the starter mesh body) Also TMP doesnt support materials (and for a materials fan like me, this is a shame). And if you want to test your appliers once they are done you MUST NOT forget to make a bake up copy before, bec once they are sent to your TMP hud, they are no longer usable. In conclusion, dont expect doing appliers will take you only 10 seconds, bec this is simply not true , above all at the beguining (once you get used it get faster, but the first ones i made took me days). You must fig out how to create huds with several buttons, how each system notecard works and test each appliers one after one on all the mesh bodies system (you can use Slink meshbody demo for test, Belleza provides you one u can rezz, idk for maitreya as i have the body yet, for Omega, you can try on Belleza tester, it should work, and well for TMP you must buy at least their starter mesh body). You must also create the huds and buttons layouts (knowing that for TMP you need special ones that will be 128 X 128 pixels only, that you ll have to send to their website from inworld with the UUID, so you will have to upload them anyway.) Then on top of the textures of the appliers themselves, you will need to upload several other textures for your huds, buttons and TMP, which in the end makes a good amount of uploading fees to pay. But well, appliers are the new crazyness of the moment, so it probably worth the effort. If you need help, you still can IM inworld, if i have the answer to your questions, ill be delighted to give them Good luck

Suki Hirano wrote: Slink body/feet/hands - Slink appliers Belleza body - Omega system Maitreya body - Omega system TMP - TMP appliers It's always annoying when creators only provide appliers for 1-2 of the bodies but not all of them. Seriously it's frickin' copy/pasting the UUID into a config notecard, which takes no more than 10 seconds. I guess it's their way of "boycotting" certain mesh bodies, lol. DIY applier tip: if you ever need an applier for X body and the creator only supplied one for Y, just open the config notecard inside the applier (unless it's a Slink one cause those ones have hidden config files), copy/paste the UUID, then paste it into an Omega applier. Anyways Omega system is like one of the best things to happen to SL, pretty much made Maitreya/Belleza the most popular bodies since they get way more applier support than Slink/TMP, especially TMP (I don't remember when was the last time I saw an applier for TMP, other than in the exclusive TMP shop). 10 seconds ? when you must do several layers and several appliers system, create the hud layout, assembly the hud together etc .... ? you must give me your secret ! it's far from taking only 10 seconds. And for your information : appliers scripts delete the notecard in order to prevent what you say, which i call simply a thief ! The UUID is the data for the texture and that one is work from its creator. So the UUID remain the creator's property. Keep for yourself such advices, this is just incitation to copyboting. Just like meshes, textures are also work, creations and efforts from their creator. You maybe dont know how to make textures but its not a reason to lead ppl to steal them.

from what i understood you must have them in your inventory for they do the link to the mp listing. This must be why no copy item in magic box wont be migrated automatically, bec as they are not in the inventory but in the magic box, LL team wont be able to move the item from inventory to VMM inventory So everything you dont have in your inventory when they will do the migration of your store, wont be migrated and from my guess, they will be unlisted. So my advice would be you take a bit of time before the 23rd and send back to your inventory each item you dont have in your inventory right now. i find it weird btw to not keep a copy in your inventory. So well, once you re done, keep copies in case you ll need it in the future too. since the new listing system will call the item to be delivered to a customer from your inventory and no longer from the server we were sending via merchant outbox our items, i think that yes you MUST have them in your inventory and i doubt they will do the job to send back to your inventory each items you dont have yet there. So better you do it before it starts. otherwise i am afraid they will just desactivate the listing for which they wont find any item related in your inventory.

i just finished the migration of my items so im going to try to answer some of your questions. kalliopi Ziplon wrote: When the migration will be over (Direct Delivery listings will be migrated automatically) what does that mean? I will still have to connect my items or they will be ok ? and I do not have all my stuff that I sell in my inventory , will that affect the migrated automatically process? If you chose to let LL migrate automatically your stuffs, then you have nothing to do. There will be migrated automatically and you will just have to use the new system for your next new listings. if it will be ok, i can't tell, as from my experience, they use to always mess smth when they make an action of this importance on th marketplace. So we will see... noone can tells for now. I think that yes, you MUST have the items in your inventory. (otherwise how do you want they find it ? This is why, for instance, they cant do automatically the migration for non copy items bec those ones are usually not in inventory but in magic boxes) So you if you dont have some, go in your market place page, and in your listing you can send items from there to your inventory. Select the ones you are missing and send back to your inventory (before they start the process on the 23th). kalliopi Ziplon wrote: And when the automatically migrated is over I want to rename all my stuff , will the migrated send me my stuff all of them in my inventory ? or will I have to do it myself? Because I want to rename them and have them only as folders not in boxes when costumers buy something . You can rename your stuffs anytime from your market place listing page, you just have to edit the listing you want to rename, and change the name. You will also be able to change the name of the items in your inventory but it wont affect the listing. the name of the item registered and the name it appears on the website are 2 differents datas. IMPORTANT : when they say "inventory" its not your usual inventory. Its a second inventory you will have in the new viewer (i hope third party viewer will integrate this soon, so we wont be forced to use the LL viewer). It's a second window you open from the me menu "Viewer managed marketplace". What you move there from your regular inventory will disappear from the latter. You must create a copy and send to the new inventory if you want to keep a copy of it in your regular inventory. But any action you want to do in direction of your MP listing must be done in the VMM inventory window. Actions from your regular inventory will do nothing on the MP. This is for if you want to change an item, add one, delete one etc.... As for folders, you just have to drag the folders (or a copy of them) to the VMM window and it will manage it all. You will see a main folder named same as the one you sent. inside it you will see a subfolder, same name, with the items inside it. If you happen to want to update your item on the mp, like for instance, update the LM or anything else, you can then, delete the old LM and add the new one in it, OR u can make a new folder that you will drag to the main folder with the name of the item, and you rigth click on it and choose 'active' this will desactivate the other one and will make the updated one active. Hope this helped

Madeliefste, you can keep with folders. just migrate the folders in the box at the bottom of the VMM. A folder will appear in the list (same name), this is for the listing of the item, then inside it there is a subfolder, with all the items inside, this is the one for the version. If you happen to update an item, then u can or modify the contents of this folder, OR add a new updated folder in the main folder and u set the new one as active so it ll be the one linked to market place. You can delete the old one, or keep it if you think u will need to go back to this version later. ETA : and i did test it, by test delivery and also by normal purchase and it works like a charm, the folders came in my inventory with everything inside. ETA 2 : something i just notice now im back to my firestorm viewer : i find there a "Marketplace listing folder" in my regular inventory with all the items i migrated there. Can i add new folder there ? will they be send to the MP ? Or at least will i find them then in the VMM window once ill log back in the LL viewer ?

ok, well... I did download the viewer, althought i hate to have to log with an other one than my usual (firestorm), but well, there is no way i let LL team migrate my stuffs themselves. Last time they made a huge mess and althought i made also the migration myself at this time, they managed to stuck wrong pics on some of my listings and didnt fix before more than one year. So please, i think i made correctly the migration, so mercy, dont touch anything on my listing if there is no necessity !!! Really, it took me 2 half days to make the migration (im lucky, my listing is not that big) and i did that because i dont want to you to mess with it, so please restrain yourself to do it. Also i would like to know why the hell, when i move some folders (not bigger than the other ones) they arrive in the VMM window splited in several sub folders ? I see no obvious reason for that. i could fig out how to fix there, but i would like to know the reason for this. Last but not least, will we be able one time for all to get ride of all the old files that we have in our list each time we want to link an item to another one ? We have the ones prior to direct delivery migration still and it's just a hell to fig out which are the right ones. So while you are at it, can you fix that too ?

Hello Ebbe and everyone I am late to this thread and i havent read the whole of it in details, so forgive me if this has been asked already, but i havent seen anything about that so here it is. Recently we have a friend whose account has been deleted and all hints drive us to think she passed away. One other friend contacted LL but due to privacy policy he could know nothing. So my question is for both SL and Sansar, is it possible to have a service in the same style than what google, FB or other plateforms have, like that one : http://googlepublicpolicy.blogspot.de/2013/04/plan-your-digital-afterlife-with.html ? Something we could decide who can recieve our datas after a long time of absence (we determinate before) and so can cleanly delete our account and tell all the virtual friends about that ? It's pretty tricky to give such task to rl persons as sometimes they dont even know how to surf on the web, there can also be a language problem, or they just dont know our sl existence, or just will think our virtual friends dont count. And we aren't supposed to share our passwords (on top if you also take in consideration that for more security we must change them from time to time). Virtual relationship are something important in our lives and its just hard to be left like that without any infos about our beloved friends. So idk about the form this service should have, but can you, please, think a bit about this and give us a service in the same style than what google and other plateforms provide to their users. ? Im sorry for the sad side of my question, but its part of life anyway. And i apologize in advance for my english, that's not my native language.

Bonjour la plupart des magasins de cheveux ont des gifts dans leur magasin. Pafois meme des group gift (il te suffit de joindre le groupe et de les recuperer) et tu peux également en trouver dans des "hunts" visite les magasins et à l'entrée tu devrais trouver facilement leur gift et leur group gift. Je te conseille : Emo-tions, Truth, Ploom, Analog Dog, Clawtooth, Diva (les groups gifts sont au premier étage, il y en a plein et très jolis), Tableau Vivant, et bien sur je dois en oublier des tonnes, mais deja si tu commence avec ca, tu auras une chouette collection de cheveux en peu de temps.

Tape "genitals" dans la recherche du market place, tu vas trouver ton bonheur. Attention ! verifie bien que ton niveau de maturité du MP englobe bien "general, mature ET adulte", si tu n'as pas "adulte" tu ne verras rien. bon shopping