SaraCarena

Well I`m not much of a gamer but Madelaine explained very nicely the differences between games and sl and and why it`s so demanding of a computer. I agree with her that the uniqueness of sl makes that worth it. I also totally get your point that the extra demands may put people off sl. I also agree with Qie that render speed has increased over the last 18 months or so and optimistic that it will get better still. The http pipeline viewer is still being tested Anyways, try a 64 bit viewer it was noticeably better when I switched from 32 bit and set your sl cache as high as you can if you have the space on your hard drive.

Well bandwith is a tricky one coz it`s really down to your connection and what works for some, well, works for some. The 80% that Perrie suggested is a good rule, I think you`d be best to find what seems to suit you within the figures people have suggested. Your gfx is a bit low spec for sl and ATI cards seem to perform worse than nvidia cards of a similar spec with sl. I think I`d set graphics and dd pretty low and then gradually increase some settings 1 at a time to see what your happy with. It`d be handy to be able to save a few different graphics settings like you can save outfits and be able to switch with one click coz different regions can be more demanding than others, but not possible as far as I know. A 64 bit viewer would make use of all of your memory whereas the sl viewer doesn`t, it`s 32 bit. Not sure if that would improve your draw speed though. Firestorm and singularity have 64 bit viewer versions. http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Third_Party_Viewer_Directory I know it can be a bit fiddly and frustrating finding out what to tweak for best results but good luck and have fun in sl:smileyhappy: EDIT: ohhh btw you could name your ISP to see if other people rate them or not or use dnsbench (google it) to see how your ISP`s dns speed compares to others such as google public dns

Check this link out http://community.secondlife.com/t5/Technical/Im-stuck-at-Loading-world/qaq-p/2331955 Hope it helps, good luck and let us know :smileyhappy:

Okies Perrie, promise to never post that link again :smileyembarrassed: though I did test it ages ago and didn`t really notice any difference good or bad but I keep my bw at 1500 now. And yes have been lots of changes since then, isn`t it true that bandwidth setting only affects udp fetch and not http fetch?

You could try logging in at a different region, Try typing heckendorf in the box marked "start at" it`s at the bottom of your viewer. Heckendorf is just an empty sim under the sea so nothing much there to load.

Bandwidth is a very user specific setting I think, 500 is recomended for wireless 1200-1500 for hard wired but there was LL advice some time ago saying push it all the way up. You could try different settings and see if any work better than others. http://community.secondlife.com/t5/Tips-and-Tricks/QUICKTIP-Get-less-lag-in-seconds-by-increasing-your-Maximum/ba-p/670217 You have`nt said what your gfx card is, if you start your viewer click help > about second life and copy and paste that info here.

Not maybe, definitely. Think of dd(draw distance) as a sphere around you, whatever you set it to in meters will be the radius (think it`s radius not diameter) of that sphere. Your graphics card will draw what`s inside that sphere and ignore what`s outside, doubling the dd actually increases what you potentially have to render 8 fold. Quite often I set it to 50 meters if I`m indoors at a club and raise it if I`m in a pretty outdoors region. There`s also a feature on a number of viewers that auto lowers dd when you teleport and raises it over time to what your actual setting is which can help to draw scenes a bit better.

Badly optimised textures is a good point but there`s other factors too such as connection quality, isp, rl location, viewer settings.........Oz Linden mentioned in this weeks TPV meeting that they are working on radically changing how mesh and textures are delivered to the viewer, which sounds promising :smileyhappy: What is your draw distance set to cibernut? That`s a BIG factor in scene drawing.

There`s a few ways to do quick outfit/avatar changes in sl. If a folder has wearables in it (shape, skin, eyes. clothes etc. ) you can drag it from inventory onto your avatar and you`ll wear whats in that folder.

There`s a RC viewer that has a fix and it will likely be the next sl release viewer based on the fact that there`s only one RC viewer listed atm. Release Notes for v3.7.14 (292638) - Second Life Viewer Resolved Issues Persistent Blurred Textures on Sunshine Viewer http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Release_Notes/Second_Life_Release/3.7.14.292638

Coby Foden wrote: I`ll have the pants if you don`t wear them anymore :matte-motes-big-grin:

/me dies laughing.... I tried to put things in there too, then I gave up, forgot, tried to put more things in, gave up. So that`s WHY I can`t put things in there.

Thanks ever soooo, it`s all much clearer now :matte-motes-shocked: Your post is 666 btw.....SCREEEEEEEMS

Went to the club you mentioned and and did seem a bit slow to load even with just 27 av`s there. Opened up the world map and saw that it`s grouped with 4 other clubs that are open and 1 that`s not. Well I recognize one of the other clubs coz been there before, usually busy with av`s wearing lots of mesh. Anyways, they`re all part of the same club group and guessed that they might share the same server ( a server hosts 4 regions as far as I know). Tping via the world map I rezzed very quick at the other clubs. Sum of all 4 clubs was about 80 av`s all wearing lots of cool mesh clothes. Sooo adding 2 + 2 I get..............

Sounds like a DNS problem, you could try using Google public DNS to see if that fixes it. There are instructions on how to on this web page. http://wiki.phoenixviewer.com/fs_bake_fail Are you in Brazil by any chance?

Hi, your system looks fine, the settings you state look fine. Under certain conditions on busy regions a pergentage of av`s won`t rez fully and the result is what you mentioned, looks a bit messy I know. https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/BUG-5414 The slow loads are probably at places you haven`t visited before but if you go there more often they should load quicker coz of textures getting stored in cache. There is a http pipeline viewer being worked on by LL which looks like it might speed things up a bit. Welcome to sl, have fun :smileyhappy: I used to have http textures off permanently but with changes over the last 6 months doesn`t seem to make any difference on or off nowadays.

Building your own isn`t too hard, even I managed to do it :matte-motes-agape: plus you get reward on first boot up of knowing that YOU did it. For the price of those dells I think you could build something way better and I`d second dd`s advice especially that about using a quality power supply. Toms hardware website has some good guides on whats important in what hardware but there`s lots of other guides around the net. I did a bit of research on what each component is/does before I went out and bought just so that I was a bit more confident about getting the right things. Good luck :smileyhappy:

I had the same thing a while a go, disabled auto update and just and just dl latest sl viewer if I think it`s worth a look, it`s happened before.......:matte-motes-wink:

Not knowing anyone on that street I don`t think I`d criticise LL for not having 20/20 foresight, maybe others would and it would be fair criticism idk. There was also the meshmaxconcurrency whisper going around on other streets, like set it to 100, 500, whatever, that might benefit 1 person doing it on a busy sim but if everyone was doing it actually made it worse for everyone. There was a bit more talk about it at last Fridays TPV meeting along with the http pipeline viewer that I`m eager to use. There was a video up on youtube showing how much faster it is compared to the current viewer but it`s disappeared.

It`s been talked about at the latest TPV meeting and a fix is on the way Skip to the 34th minute if you don`t want to watch it all.

Whit on eff awe yoo tlaking abowt? edit.. damn tipos... meant Erff, not eff

There are 2 threads on the forums and 2 jiras reporting problems similar 2 yours. If you know how to search your viewer logs then search for Easy_7 that will show if you are affected or not. https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/BUG-6838 http://community.secondlife.com/t5/Your-Avatar/Grey-skin-on-all-avatars/td-p/2787938 http://community.secondlife.com/t5/Your-Avatar/HEEEELP/td-p/2787360

There are times when your ISP(internet service provider) DNS suddenly decides it doesn`t want to communicate with second life for whatever reason. This happened to a lot of users, mainly in Europe, a few weeks ago. It maybe worth trying google DNS http://community.secondlife.com/t5/Second-Life-Server/SSA-messed-up/td-p/2740564 Instructions for google DNS; http://wiki.phoenixviewer.com/fs_bake_fail

Checked one of my logs from a "healthy" slv session, just out of curiosity, not pretending to know anything here but found, LLVOAvatarSelf::initInstance: Self avatar object created. Starting timer. 2014-07-19T16:07:00Z INFO: LLVOAvatar::debugAvatarRezTime: REZTIME: [ 0sec ] Avatar 'SaraCarena' cloud RuthTimer 0 Notification AvatarRezArrivedNotification : avatar arrived Also I found lots of "CURL GET FAILED, status: Http_404 reason: Not Found" but not the "Easy_7" one so curious to know what that means alonog with the "self is clouded......"

I wouldn`t clear cache as a fix for smoke/cloud/bakefail, well only as a last resort maybe. First check that you are wearing a shape, it maybe that shape didn`t download when you logged in. Next, change your hairbase, then eyes, then skin one at a time to ones that you don`t normally wear. You can find other shapes etc in your inventory >library>outfits. If none of those fixes work go through the steps on this link one at a time. http://wiki.phoenixviewer.com/fs_bake_fail Appdata is a hidden folder by default on windows. To show hidden folders go to control panel >folder options >view and check the box that says show hidden folders.....