Parx Oran

never said it was, babu. I opened this thread as a discussion for the rest of the community to take part in. ^^

ooooooohhhhh lol. Hey mang, there's a section somewhere for flesh combat as well.

never said it was, babu. Combat is such a broad and frequently done thing in SL, that many of its conversations and content can fit in any subforum just like roleplay. That is all that was said.

lol, unfortunately, combat stuff can be posted anywhere and technically not be in "the wrong place." so you're not wrong. Combat goes on everywhere in SL. I just think it'd be nice to be able to reveal to the rest of SL what all goes on in that avenue.

Hello, I read your post but I know how things go with large walls of text and I wrote down my interpretations on your individual paragraphs and wrote responses ^^ Let me know if i misenterpreted your paragraphs. "you're there to participate in a first-person shooter game" *You're there to shoot people and be apart of and fight to support your respective communities, I can see how that would be a very good alternative for a select few VICE sims though.* "Zombie shooter games in SL wouldn't be able to post in combat" *Of course they would. They'd have a place to discuss the combat aspects, how weapon efficiencies work in other communities relative to theirs to keep sim time dilation at it's most efficient and learn off of each other because let's face it, This game isn't made for combat but it is one of the most participated in activities in SL.* "If there was a combat subforum it would be filled with content from just members of my community, resulting in a circle-jerk." *the SLMC is the largest, but definitely not the only community that does combat. You talk as if I'm leaving out the GOR, DCS, VICE, MCE, and many more. Even so, the SLMC contains many different communities under it each with their own way of doing things and each would more than likely have several threads open for each of them on how to do certain things in the respective communities. VICE would have a place to talk about the best methods for integrating scripts into weapons resulting in an expansion of gear being made for VICE. GOR would have a place to talk about the tactics involved with their combat installments, educate people on the complexities of the system * "The person in charge of the SLMC should let people RP if that's their prerogative. It would raise morale and would attract more people to your community" *First off again this thread wasn't started to benefit just the SLMC. Secondly, nobody started the SLMC lol, and nobody is/was ever in charge of the SLMC. There have only ever been influential neutral voices such as Caine Constantine, or Syla (Both retired). It manifested as a result of the Lindens adding Linden damage and people fought over whose method of doing combat was superior, and a sort of gang war started. It was dubbed the "SLMC" correct me if I'm wrong in 2011 during the Grid-merge when the MG combat community met TG (huge culture shock, and hundreds of stories there. Imagine if China were made an American state) years ago because these are just separate combat communities that make items and fight each other with them. Secondly over the years there have been several military groups that were also part RP. They died off promptly (Recent 7th military installments, and Moriarty Static's ADI) This is because people who RP as their primary objective in the combat sims, prove themselves to be rather lacking in combat skill which brings down the rest of the group. SLMC groups aren't places you go to join and do whatever. Most will only take people who prove their worth in combat through a set of trials (See here for example) They are there to "win" over the other communities and fight to see who lasts the longest. Plus people usually don't use text chat at all, and we ask that people communicate through voice over mediums such as Discord, and Teamspeak as it is much faster and more efficient to communicate. Many people join because they think our community is roleplay/has roleplay, but then they end up staying for the history, weapons and armor, the combat, and the people. I could go on for weeks about SLMC history, and people are still working on putting together a cohesive story. I only know a modicum of TG history, and post-gridmerge history from 2011-Now for a few military groups (Maybe 3 or 4 out of over 120)* Let me know if I misinterpreted any of your points, and if you wanna discuss this in-world, I'd be more than happy to. Also, I'm aware that I do a terrible job of staying off the topic of the SLMC. Its unfortunate but I'm just better versed in it, and I used to run VICE sims around 6 years ago so I know how that goes. As for DCS, GOR, and others. I'm only just aware of their existence but have hung around their sims and observed enough to know that they are vastly complex. This is why I think a subforum would help in educating people who don't know quite as much about these systems and would definitely invite a new breed of people into SL. Edit: just read the "barred from entry" sentence. we don't barr people from entry, we just inform people that its kind of foreign to those combat sims, and would end up slowing them down in the end. It also is rather awkward, as most of us live in RL primarily and those that RP don't always live the same. The cultures are different, and that's a whole 'nother thread in itself, so I won't open that up. Also, I called it. it was moved to roleplay lol

There are in fact many themes, however, combat is a massive corner of SL. not just that, it is also involved in almost every form of RP. Games... I'm certain is about gambling, or in world things like zombie shooters. Not PVP. It's not the right place at all. Events... we don't really have events and haven't. There have been few situations where events were held however, those are not to be painted in good light and for the most part are political happenings rather than happy events. There is definitely light in posting events there for maybe a VICE RP if they're doing some "hey we're having a party, come get free guns and... idk prim food." Favorite Destinations... I posted there for a single faction (It's not my job, or prerogative to advertise other groups), and a hotlink is in my signature. Which is a good place to post individual sims. However, Combat is one of those things that is a fact of SL. SL is a game where you can do anything with unlimited freedom. With that, certain facts of an environment like this arise. People will first and foremost have sex. People will roleplay (Garry'smod taught us this inevitability). People will make art. And finally, people will kill each other. Combat has been here since the first weapons were made. and this isn't just about advertising several different communities, it's about a place to talk about combat aspects of the countless systems that SL has to offer. With these discussions comes advertisement. The simple act of talking about something on forums advertises things. Favorite destinations is the better alternative, but the second I start talking about the benefits of Coercion's weapons over say New Roman weapons (Devil's advocate keep your filthy pants on, Rome), There is nowhere to put it. I'm assuming the lindens would move it to roleplay, however, a good portion of the discussion that would be held is not even close or related to any sort of roleplay. It's even better suited in photography because there are original pictures in each of those posts. When one of my discussion threads was moved to roleplay, I had a large group of people in a discord asking me why the hell of all places I put it there. Short answer, I didn't. Long answer, the Lindens themselves don't even know where to put stuff like that so their only assumption is to slap it wherever. I contested the placement of the thread per request of a large number of people in discord however it was ignored. So when the Lindens don't know where to put something, it's safe to assume that a new section should be made.

"good guys" isnt the right word sandwich. we're getting sidetracked. Anyways moral of the past page is: ~~~~Kobi should have reported pedophiles instead of stubbornly assumed the Lindens treat the rest of the grid like the SLMC~~~~ -._.-*-.YAY.-*-._.-

ha ha nobody swatted me. Somebody attempted a swat on the serial copybotter. Somebody showed me my own address on the SL platform. That is well within their jurisdiction. Simple. Ban people who do that stuff. That goes well beyond just harassment. Can't report to the police without a real name. Edited: anyways this was solved several months ago, but without linden assistance. All of these situations had to get solved without lindens, however things would be so much cleaner if they had more active and online lindens to deal with issues on a case by case basis.

i have to respectively disagree and assure you that all the situations listed were against TOS, and even merited legal intervention (in one or two cases it was necessary) but the lindens either dismissed them as "call the cops this case is closed." or just didn't respond at all even when people were trying to file DMCAs. I'm glad to hear that they administrate pedophilia because the issue is rampant. My argument which i'm aware is extreme is to blanket ban child avatars. Gets rid of pedophilia as a whole, and forces the kiddie diddlers to find a new platform. Ha, I like you, join the combine.

Our community has maybe 3 of these level issues a year MAYBE. and no worries. everybody in the SLMC that is in it, knows it is toxic. But that sort of toxicity only shows up in two groups. The Fray, and the SLMN. Since an event last year that resulted in a lot of cancer, many people have left those groups since then and have opted towards a more civil approach. The groups are still alive, and are very much posted in frequently (the content of which i don't know, and don't care to know because i left those groups alongside a very, very large percentage of the community) But this thread isnt about the combat community, its about child avatars, and abuse reporting. I'm just telling you my experience with ARs, and hopefully a linden will come by and read this and realize "oh sh*t, we need more active admins otherwise we're gonna get a bunch of pedophilic troglodytes doxxing each other."

Not me personally. But the unfortunate thing is a lot of higher-ups in the combat community think its the only way to keep people from doing dumb stuff since the lindens have proven time and time again they won't help us. I know the stance of our faction, and our stance is to sit back and watch the fireworks go off. We'd rather keep our hands clean and not get involved. Even though our armor was copybotted a couple months ago we know that somebody in another faction will be upset enough to bring that guy justice. We sat back, and the issue was solved.

ho ho ho~ clever clever. I edited the post. Most of the issues the SLMC deals with are far worse than any of this "this guy bumped me in a furry club" BS had a guy show me my own address several months ago, and did the lindens do anything? naw. somebody got doxxed and swatted, did the lindens do anything? nope. furthermore, the guy that got doxxed and swatted was doxxed and swatted because the lindens didn't take action for his serial copybotting spree. did the lindens lift a finger? No. several months ago somebody posted somebody's uncensored driver's license to a very large group for fun. did the lindens do anything? nuh uh. the entire combat community is convinced they are gone. and as a result, people are debating creating our own administrative process where if anybody breaks the community taboos and rules, they get doxxed. I'd rather the lindens come back. Some would prefer to keep the lindens out of it. It's dumb, but the kind of stuff people get action taken with is trivial BS like "Oh god, he didn't call me by my proper pronouns, ban him." which leaves the real issues unadministrated. Edited in: With that experience and that large of a population with the same experience, it's not too far to believe they won't lift a finger for other issues in other communities.

I'll be honest. Abuse reporting is pointless and never once in the 10 some-odd years I've been playing this game have any of them had action taken. The combat community has turned into an un-administrated pile of doxxing, and copybotting because the lindens don't administrate anymore. There was a situation where some of us sat in a panel because somebody came along and copybotted everybody's armor in the community to stir the pot for fun. Keep in mind that armors are custom designed, and meshed for each military. A lot of work and money is put into them. We had submitted our cases to the lindens multiple times, and not a single one got a response. So since there was no sense of justice for anybody, it caused the leader of one of the older military groups to get outraged and doxx and attempt to SWAT the individuals involved. Banning this individual from sims wasn't enough, so this copybotter's real life information was released into multiple chat groups. I'll be keeping names out of this as the situation was handled last year. The copybotter has since apologized and said over voice in front of an organized panel of administrators "I had no clue what I was stepping into despite all the warnings, and I'm sorry." So the community since then has figured out the lindens are no longer here and formed our own broken administration because of it. Get online right now, and type in "linden" into the people search. You'll notice not a single one is online ever. They're gone, and we're left to our own devices without abuse reporting.So what did I do to the child avatar sim? nothing. There is nothing we can do without getting our hands dirty, and I don't want to do that. And I definitely don't want anything to do with that filth of a community. That is why I say the lindens should just scorch the earth, and blanket ban all child avatars. It's disgusting, and it's too difficult to place morals for individuals. As for your terrorist analogy, I know there are some who have taken the game to RL, and beaten people who lived nearby for opposing their factions. So terrorist, no. But the violence and hatred runs deep enough to where our silly little videogame violence becomes real.

Yeah lol, a lot of people mistake us for the Diamond Sword. We're very similar in theme. Our standard officer armor is even dark blue, with silver winged trim. That would be it on the left.

Today I'm wearing what I wore yesterday, the day before, and last week. Even further last month, the month after that, all to a year ago, 2 years ago, 3, 4 and a half years ago exact. I'm wearing my combat armor. But not just any combat armor. This is my unique variant of Coercion Combine armor dubbed the "Eris Firewalker" along with my medals and favorite loadout. The best part of it all is that I didn't spend a single linden on it. All of this was earned over the course of 4 and a half years of service by just shooting people which makes it all the sweeter.

Ghost was a very active SLMC member. He'd know if New Jessie, 'the HUB of all combat in SL' was gone. Not only that but a very good portion of those military groups below it are now dead and have no place on the wiki. Listing all previous dead military groups would be near impossible as there have been over 200 over the years counting maingrid and teengrid. Not only should things be removed, but this has been a very prosperous year for combat in SL. There are many new places. I'll list everything here. Dead: New Jessie (God rest it) KPC XAF (Negotiable) New: Valix Task Force Ghosts Chaos Decreptum DDR CDF 1331 Magyar Hadsereg Hazardous Vaelkyr I opened up a discussion in a discord known as "Project Genesis" which is supposed to replace the fact that the combat community doesn't actually have a place on the forums ('m fighting it because I've got no life and I'm a hipster) and a couple people in the SLMC informed me that he left SL roughly last year as many do after their groups die off. The discord is still in discussion over who should take over. Because gone or not, he's not updating enough. These groups were alive last year, and died as a result of a failed crusade against a single group. As the factions hold their own biases, this has become a difficult decision. The combat community is eager to back up off its feet, and we could use all forms of informing and advertising as possible. not only that, but most of the ones that are still alive have moved to different sims multiple times since then. Since things move so often, we'd need things to be updated more than annually. We have a board in-world that was made by Valix's own, Sin Straaf to connect the sims by an activity board rather than a large group of people having to memorize all of the sim names. This board updates whenever a group has moved from one sim to the next. (The hop between full, and homestead is very common due to people being busy IRL for finals, work crunch times etc.) All in all, if Ghost is as active as you say he is, why is there year-old information on it?

anything can sound dumb if you phrase it like that. it's more along the lines of "maybe people shouldn't be child avatars in a glorified sex simulator because... idk having sex with kids is wrong. Beyond wrong." I understand there are people who can't have kids and would like to pretend to raise some. That is unfortunate. However, it is the ones who play as the kids that worry me. In this game, you can be anything and do anything in the world, which means people's choice in avatars tells a lot about one's character. In most cases, people choose to go through SL as what they find attractive, or whatever rocks their jollies. Simple math tells me these people are not anything good. And there have been too many incidents where I've been correct. A couple friends and i one day decided to visit one of these child avatar sims for a silly bout of "point and laugh." What we found though was horrifying. On one of the walls, there were dozens of sexualized pictures of kid avatars. I could describe them, but Jesus dude. There are people who, yes, have pure hearts and only want to play as child avatars because it's fun. But the sad truth is, this game has a serious pedophilia problem because people know the Lindens don't administrate often. In this case, it'd be better to scorch the earth so that this game doesn't harbor wackjob kiddy diddlers.

except people's houses in this game aren't private unless they're on their own sim. Also Christ, why are people walking around naked in their video game houses for entertainment lol. read a book, go outside. walk around your house naked IRL ffs.

I Highly recommend wearing full heavy plate armor wherever you go 24/7. No worries about sexual content, and can take bullets and knife jabs. just remember, if you have to worry about sexual content, it's probably heresy.

sorry that's f*cked. lol. no matter how immersive the roleplay no child is going to want to be anywhere near naked adult males. If this situation is happening, there's some pedophilia play going on. But I'm biased as all hell. If it were up to me, I'd blanket ban all child avatars permanently and report them all to authorities. If you disagree, I suggest seeing a shrink IRL.

No. Depends on the place and who really cares, but as a general rule. No. Not everybody in SL is there for sex. A large portion of it is, but I hate coming into a regular sim only to be greeted by a horny neckbeard sporting shark t*ts and a mesh buttplug. I don't wanna look at it, and I know I'm not the only one. That's of course only one example, but listing all the degenerative fetishes that exist in SL would collectively break the forum server from pure text content. So if you're thinking about it, spare people the trouble of having to be the one to say "Hi, can you please put some clothes on, or at least wipe the fecal smear off your face?"

I posted some stuff in General Discussion because I couldn't find a place. Most of the SLMC groups keep to themselves because there isn't anywhere to post. There are a couple groups in world that are uhhhhh ... no nvm they're all cancer. The best way to find these sims is to visit one and find what we call an "activity board" which can be found in most spawn hubs of SLMC sims. Each military has their own views as to whats "right and wrong" and usually don't have a moderated place to discuss the situations, so things can get rather fickle when discussing certain methods in combat. Its kinda been that way for the better part of like, 13 years. As for the vice sims, from what I understand they don't have many forms of advertising and discuss in their respective discords. Anyways the thread I posted ended up getting moved to the RP board. Next day we had some people come into the sim looking for a place to RP, and I had to bear the bad news that we actually cringe at that kind of stuff. Not gonna lie, one of the most awkward situations is when you're trying to tell somebody how to shoot a gun, and they call you "sir." I swear I have to say "Nah dude please stop. We're just a buncha silly guys playin' video games. Cut it with the pet names, please." several times a day because somebody got used to everything being a roleplay sim. As for posting in games, I'm certain since it's not gambling, or shooting prim zombies it would be moved. I'm also aware that most faction officers do keep up on the forums, but usually there isnt any discussion because well, where the hell would we put it lol? usually people would just post in the fray, or SLMN which are in world groups, but 98% of it is spam, conjecture, and furry porn. An attempt was made to make a forum for the groups, but there was a lot of people advertising copybotted items, doxxings etc... so we never did have a moderated platform to post on until somebody made a discord group called project genesis. The discord group is still used, but only certain people who have proven their eligibility to post can post in it. Even with that being a rather... slow... success..... there is no way for the rest of SL to see that sort of thing. Plus that excludes and leaves out GOR, DCS, VICE, MCE, Whatever the hell GAR uses, The naruto sims etc. The reason you've not heard of these places is that we've got nowhere to 'advertise' or even discuss the vast complexities and potential interests that each system has to offer.

Hello, So I've noticed that most combat-related posts get moved to Roleplay, But why? A very large portion of Combat communities exists that don't RP. And a very large portion of RP communities have sections that Do combat, but when fighting is completely devoid of all RP. I'll give some examples of these sims, and what they are (sorry if i leave out DCS, and GOR too much, I'm not very well versed in the two but are aware the combat aspects are very in-depth.) VICE: (That I know of) Binh Dinh: A Vietnam war era combat sim with roleplay elements, but the focus is primarily on the combat New Bastogne: A European WWII chain of combat sims with the option of RP Tulagi: A WWII themed vice arena chain of sims. I'm not too sure if they RP there at all. If they do, it's news to me. The rest are roleplay sims with a side of combat. so Coastguard RP's, and the like. SLMC/LLCS: Coercion Combine: A Sci-Fi Knights group that acts as a public combat sim, and a military base. There is no roleplay here, and are laughed at when they do (Discord gets fun) Chaos Indivism: A Warhammer 40K Chaos group that acts as a public combat sim, and a military base. There is no roleplay here, and are encouraged to not. Chaos Decretar: Another Warhammer 40K Chaos group that acts as a public combat sim, and a military base. There is no roleplay here, and are harassed endlessly if they do. TKOI: An Interdimensional furry group that acts as a public combat sim, and a military base. There is no roleplay here, and are encouraged to not. CDF: A sci-fi Macro furry with guns themed group that acts as a public combat sim, and a military base. There is no roleplay here, and are encouraged to rather have furry sex instead. Valix: A Final Fantasy 14 themed group that acts as a public combat sim, and a military base. There is no roleplay here, and are encouraged to not. XAF: A dead military group that kept their sim open for others to enjoy publicly. You can roleplay here if you want I guess, but if a tree falls, and nobody is around to hear it, does it really make a sound? Task Force Ghosts: A Modern Warfare themed group that acts as a public combat sim, and a military base. There could be RP here, but nobody is for sure. they are still primarily a combat group. I mean I can go on, cuz there is more but I'm sure you get the point. What could we do with a combat section that the roleplay section already doesn't do though, Kobi? Well, I'll tell ya! We could advertise combat groups as combat groups instead of people having to be told when they come to combat sims that "Yo, we don't RP so stop calling me Sir. It's weirding me out." I swear, like 4 times a day lol The RP sims that focus on RP, but have combat elements such as GOR, and DCS (and those few VICE sims) can have a better platform to discuss the countless aspects of their combat experiences with their respective systems to improve them without people discussing the roleplay in between. Combat sims can easily get more exposure from this. People might even see that there is more to SL than furry sex, and dance animations than they had originally thought. People would see that there are opportunities for making combat sims and systems and possibly find a new passion. The dark corner of SL that is combat wouldn't be so dark and secluded anymore, and would hopefully get the exposure it needs to grow again. Discuss weapons, and their specific benefits in different situations, People could discuss Primjumping, what kinds of viewer controls should be allowed, how to navigate properly in a combat sim, etc.. Point being, there's no reason you shouldn't, but many reasons you should. Don't forget we were one of the first communities, and will easily be one of your last. Please don't leave us feeling left out.

The "boring linden damage sim" was new jessie, and was the HUB for all SLMC military groups. It harbored a very very large corner of the entire community and acted as the central area for almost all combat sims in SL. The spamming issue was due to a group of people within the SLMC trying to modify information about opposing factions. Systems still in use are VICE, DCS, whatever GAR uses (if they're not on dice rolls) and SLMC/LLCS. DCS from what i understand is a sort of play on MMORPG combat for SL and has countless sims active GOR damage is very popular amongst those who are into cave men BDSM combat (suprizingly the largest portion of sl rp) and their sims can be found by searching "Gor Hub" in search VICE is a metered combat with strict rules and regulations. its applications have been used from modern, to ww1 sims. they have currently Tulagi, Binh Dinh, and New Bastogne. GAR if they're even still on a system is very rarely active for combat and is a star wars based RP sim. From what I understand, they do have a combat system but people would rather roleplay. SLMC/LLCS is unlimited, and the SLMC community is the grandfather of all of these systems because it is the original combat system. Current groups have their historical roots dating back to 2005. Nowadays there are dozens of factions to choose from, each with their own themes, cultures, and history. I'm an officer in one of the larger, and older factions in SLMC/LLCS and I can tell you that there is much more going on than just a bunch of mindless killing. I could even list all the factions that have existed over the years, but the current number I'm at is over 120. 14 of them are currently alive and active. If you want to know more about the SLMC, the best i can do ya is give you the best example of one that I know of, and that is the Coercion Combine I Highly recommend checking out this post. We are just one in many, and there is so much to do in each faction. As for the forums, Ghost Menjou is the SLMC member who was put in charge of the wiki, however, he's been missing since around last year during an event which resulted in multiple military deaths and hiatuses. New Jessie has also since disappeared because the man running it, Caine Constantine has been providing a HUB for SL combat for many many years, and thought it time to go live out in RL

yeah, unfortunately, there are some other combat communities having the same issue. Some have roleplay content but would like to be looked at as a Combat community as opposed to an RP. Us though, we don't roleplay and actually ask people to cut that kind of stuff out when they do it in our sims. The SLMC has rather kept to its own forms of communication for the past 10-13 years which is why it might seem a bit outlandish that there is a combat community that strictly just fights each other in the first place. To my knowledge, nobody has tried the forums in the past which is why I've started posting here. But, thanks for the suggestion, I'll give it a try.