Harper Held

I"m peeved it took me five minutes to realize this was a different thread than the one @Persephone Emerald quoted me from 🤣

What, they're baitin me? Like I'm a trout or somethin...? Is that it? Maybe it's just me I'm just a fish outta water here but like... baitin how? I'm gutted here...are they going to filet me, throw me in a pan and cook me up and serve me with some butter and chips? Is that what I am to them? 😃😘🏳️‍⚧️⚧️Happy Pride everyone -tip your waitstaff and leave the fish alone!⚧🏳️‍⚧️😘😃

It occurs to me that we're veering far, far off track and I'm partly to blame. This thread is to celebrate Pride In Second Life ...not to rehash the culture wars of the twenties....

It is not just 'people' who harm people but entire movements and institutions are set up with the intent to inflict harm on others. We can never truly know anyone else's motives but if someone says outright "I am destroying your religion to make you follow my own" (conquistadors to those they conquered) then that is close enough. But I feel that you missed my original point? If someone is constantly assaulted (physically, or verbally) in the name of a specific religion and told they're going to hell ...of course the person being told they're going to hell (or being beat up) is going to hold resentment over that. As well they should.

This isn't OpenAI ChatGPT; we're not censored into complete oblivion ...yet.

I'd ask for a citation on that -particularly since I'd love to see where you get that information from, but I'm afraid it's off topic. You wat now? LOL if you're a bible literalist the bible itself says he died for our sins. If you're not -then what would make you say 'when he comes back'? IOW: pull the other one, it's got bells on!

Yeah, let me go out on a limb and say that my post should in NO WAY be construed as a condemnation of Jesus. Jesus is awesome -he died for our sins, after all. Good luck getting most people to even cover a the cost of parking for you, much less give their lives. The people who claim to love him, yet do horrors in his name -they're "problematic" but Jesus himself? He's aces in my book!

SLU pre-dates the "SL ban for Forum ban" policy. It dates back to 2004 or so and I don't think there's anyone around except Cris who can speak to what motivated its' creation. SLU, of course, became VV1. Circa 2006 or so there was some drama or another which led to the creation of Second Citizen (which has it's own drama, and has now closed) an SL forum that co-existed with SLU, then later there were others with varying degrees of activity. At one point you probably had 4 or 5 SL-oriented forums coexisting. VV1 comes from that era, and that ecosystem, and is unrelated to what we're talking about -though some people (raises hand) decided to focus their posting efforts to there after the policies became sketchier here. The fact I'm here (and to date unbanned) is the tasting that is the proof of the pudding.

That ain't me, I have no problem with anyone's faith. It's actions I have a beef with, such as faith going out and wiping out entire cultures, burning people at the stake for their faith, or any number of other horrors (all of which have been in the mainstream news in recent years). Also, when it comes to the beliefs that are used to bludgeon LGBTQ+ people for simply existing -as the current dominant religion is so often used to do, then don't be surprised when the people being beaten (often with more than just a bible) by folks who love themselves some Jesus vocalize resentments.

There are worse sins -often committed by priests, no less.

In my case, it's a hold-over from days gone by, when there was a threat of losing your account if you were banned from this forum. Honestly, I'm not sure that isn't still the case ...

A significant millstone...to hang around our necks? /me thinks I may have just out-grumped Sid Nagy

Thank ***** you're not an SL customer -or is it that you're not the "average" one? (more mean than average perhaps?)

This is always a userful thing to remember when having nostolgia about 'community'. I mean how many times has LL taken a weed-whacker to these forums already? Three or four times that I can think of (twice on the old vbulliten-or-whatever forums, then twice after switching to whatever this is). This is a community in the sense there are long time members who know and recognize each other; but at the end of the day? It's a corporate platform sponsored for the sake of promotion and marketing.

Well put, I agree 100%

1)Regardless of who said it, the advice is sound; you get back what you put out. Yes, different forums have different vibes but if someone consistently gets back negativity they ought to consider that the problem is them. 2)A pizza without pineapple and olives is an abomination

...BE the change you want to see in the world...?

No idea, but I had a chance to pounce on her and ask for her bear during one of the SLBs a few years back 😻

Not so much a new look but bits and bobs from old outfits for...an updated look? Yeah, that's it.

There's a difference between making an emphatic point and being "upset", and in written communication "tone" can be ambiguous. This is doubly true on a forum such as this where people's behavior is constrained (as opposed to reddit where only the mod's whims rule) I mean -I'd never dream of stopping you from reading anything into anything you like (such as tone) but I'd just point out it's not necessarily as reliable as you appear to think.

Yep, yep...it's equal parts horrifying and amazing to see how much and be traced back to 4chan since it opened almost 20 years ago.

It does look a bit desperate to read implications into words that aren't there just for the sake of kicking up dirt, I agree with you there! 😉

I grew up in the 70's and 80's with siblings in 12 step programs; this is the first I'm hearing of this usage. Seriously. This is sounding to me a lot like the steamed hams bit where Skinner's trying to say that's what hamburgers are called in Albany...

Well, it wouldn't be the first time people slung around chan-based pejoratives for whatever reason. This is the first time I've noticed it, though.