Mags Indigo

Fabulous avatar Sion - you really have got that edge between reality and fantasy. You look wonderful.

Ceera you always look elegant and definitely individual. I have never really fancied being anything other than human - not sure why really. Other good friends of mine say they find it more honest having a 'fantasy' avi rather than pretending to be a type of person (looks etc) that they are not in RL. As one guy said to me - once you're a dragon or a lion it kind of gets rid of the question - so do you look like this in RL? Others just really love experementing with shapes and role playing different creatures etc... that's what makes SL fun.

Jo Yardley wrote:<snip> There just aren't many 38 year old woman who doesn't wear makeup, who has lived and doesn't mind her face showing that, skins in SL. You either get a 23 year old face or a 83 year old face. I agree completely Jo - at 53 in RL I don't look too bad for my age at all - when it comes to older avatars it's very stereotypical still in SL - as you say - either young and trendy or old and ugly as it were. Someday people will take up the mantle for those of us over the age of 30 but not quite ready to get a 'grandma/grandpa' avi yet.

Hi Marigold, actually I'm pretty much in agreement with all you say - for me having an RL partner/husband/wife/whatever would rule out entering into an intimate relationship in SL - but that's probably because I can't seem to switch off from seeing 'avatars' as the actual people who type the text. For me people are people and I try to treat people in SL much as I would if I met them in the same circumstances in RL. In RL I am single (guess there's not enough crazy people about) and I'm also single in SL - I've yet to meet anyone who could change that - there's too many 'RL is RL and SL is SL' for my liking to get that close to someone again. (Did it once - it was wonderful but ultimately fiction - so why do it again). But you are also right in saying we don't write the moral code for other people - each must decide for themselves what they believe to be 'right'. I'm just interested in how people 'see' SL and the people they meet here. I cherish friends in RL and anywhere else - I see no real difference between people I have met in SL. IRC or the local pub. The timescales involved in making that friendship may be a bit different but the end result is the same. Best wishes to you and Janelle you seem to have a great relationship - hats off to both of you :smileyhappy:

I take your point Venus - friends to me are friends regardless of the world they inhabit. I was thinking less about friends and more about 'romantic liaisons' - or dating with benefits if you prefer. I know many people on SL partner for reasons that have nothing to do with sex or romance - convenience, business, warding potential admirers off etc. Those who do look for and enter SL relationships that within SL have all the attributes of an RL relationship - intimacy, sex, romance and companionship all twined together - does this mean that they are being unfaithful to their RL partner. If not does that mean that regardless of what they tell their SL partner - SL relationships are nothing to them apart from an imaginary/fantasy game and as such aren't worth even considering as 'relationships'? Or maybe I'm just being dense :smileyindifferent:

Yes it can be truly one of the most 'creative' aspects of SL - creating one's avatar. Many people opt for fantasy (as in furry, elf etc) and some go for more 'realistic' humanoid. I too love to see how people present themselves. For me it doesn't seem to be as important to present as anything other than some middle aged woman anymore - of course that might change again - who knows what I might be next :smileywink:

It looks greatValerie - I Must pop over soon :smileyhappy:

More and more I see people discussing being single in SL as if that's a bad thing. Are we bringing our RL perceptions about 'success' to bear on our SL experience? Surely if we (royal we) are already in an RL relationship and indeed married, it is a good thing to remain single and faithful in SL. Or is it that friendships/relationships in SL are so shallow and unimportant that they really don't matter? Is it better to be 'partnered' in SL - or at least 'spreading it about a bit' than it is to be single and apparently boring? This is an anti-spam thread :smileyhappy:

When I came to SL and figured things out a bit I became a beautiful, well groomed young woman (about 8ft tall but that's another story). As time progressed my avatar changed and became more sophisticated - probably as I learned more about shapes and style in SL. These days my avatar is a scruffy old git - a bit like me in rl - and short as well. I know some people develop even more fantastic avatars as they progress along SL's path. How has your avatar evolved? This is an anti-spam thread :smileyhappy:

Do people have favourite places where they like to hang out with friends - not necessarily big clubs etc - but small places dotted about SL. I have a small Irish Pub/Music Bar place which is non-commercial and people are quite welcome to lounge about, nosey everywhere and have a dance - and indeed people do. Any other such places? This is an anti-spam thread :smileyhappy:

Marianne McCann wrote: FWIW, I think that was the last April Fool's prank LL will ever pull. A lot of people got inordinately upset by those, and yelled about LL wasting resources with silly TP messages versus "fix the lag" and stuff. I s'pect they still have a sense of humor (This pretty much confirms that), but they cant much show it without people being upset. :-/ I agree completely Mari - I'm not an LL 'fangirl' and I complain plenty, but it always does occur to me that whatever LL does they get hammered by people who just can't see right in whatever they do. I would put RL money on it that if LL had done what Phoenix did they would now be barraged under complaints and talks of RL courts. LL can never do right - TPVs it seems can do all sorts and be forgiven because they are not 'official' - isn't it a funny old world when how we see things isn't about if it's fun or good - but rather from what source it came. Just my ponderings for this week - sometimes I find it hard to understand people - even though I am one. Cheers all - happy weekend. :smileyhappy:

@ Perrie... so she lied to you about being 15 - you ARd her - LL suspended her account while they checked her age - she proved she really was 18/19 (still not too old to 'talk like a teen' ) and now it's all back to normal - whatever normal is. You did the right thing by ARing her - believe me LL would have banned the account if she was underage, she prob got suspended for a wee while for lying about her age in chat. Just imagine - people actually tell lies in SL - who would have thought :smileywink:

I think that people should be allowed sign up for free but should be limited to using the new 'basic ' viewer LL is bringing out - for maybe 10 days or up to a month. During that time they should have limited access to the forums - perhaps being able to post a set number of questions in the Answers forum. After the 'set time' they would get a notice from LL telling them they had to pay maybe a $5 - $10 fee to continue. If LL could do something like this it would still allow people to visit but limit the damage griefers could cause. Just an idea - I'm sure it has loads of flaws.

Now that I've played about with it I think it's a really good idea. People will inevitably call it 'dumbing down' but I keep reminding people that not everyone who wants to see what SL is like is a computer/internet 'expert'. Quite a lot of people just use their computer and the internet for normal entertainment stuff - sometimes people in these forums forget that not everyone wants to build, create or even think about complex technology. I think this is a great introduction tool for SL - anyone internet savvy enough will be on the advanced viewer on their 2nd log in.

Canoro Philipp wrote: simple minded people dont like complexity. they just want to chat and walk, the fewer buttons as possible, they have computers and the only thing they do with it is chat and listen to music. they dont dig deeper and they are comfortable with it. complexity scares them away. some residents that have been in sl are not remotely interested on bulding anything, or coding anything, or creating nothing, they are the audience of the creators. simple mind people like simple things. advanced mind people will just change the button next to the log in fields. many software uses that division, for example nVidia drivers and ESET Nod32. I agree Canoro - sometimes people who are used to the internet and gaming/creation assume everyone else is too. Most people who have computers, and indeed come to SL, are not interested in becoming 'experts' in anything - they just want a bit of fun and relaxation. And there is nothing wrong with that - without consumers the creators would have few to sell to and the Clubs and Venues across SL would be empty. We all have our interests and needs and I say diversity is great. :smileyhappy:

Well Paddy's Day is over for another year. I hope everyone had fun and that the day provided some pleasant diversion for people on the forums and of course Inworld. I'd like to thank everyone who contributed to this thread - it made some great, fun and informative reading - thanks everyone. I'd also like to thank those of you who braved my DJing at the the hangout in the wee hours (my time) of the morning to get together and have a party - and what a party it was. I think we came close to crashing the sim - thanks everyone - it was awesome to meet you all and I'd like to thank Sylvia, Maureen and Maddy for everything. Here's to next Year!

@Maureen - look forward to seeing you there :smileyhappy:

Quinn Morani wrote: Going to listen to you DJ at the hangout, of course! And I'm going to try to drag Zeke along too. Oh, and about that corned beef and cabbage? Blech! But Zeke likes it. Ugh. It must be in his blood. His ancestry is Irish on both sides. Our RL last name is Irish. Piece of trivia that you probably already know but others may not... according to Zeke, I probably should have bought an orange dress to wear tonight instead of the green one. Apparently Catholics wear green but Protestants are supposed to wear orange on St. Patty's Day. Who knew? I'm sorry but... Americans have such strange ideas... Corned beef is a New England thing and I've never known anyone to wear orange on St Patricks Day (unless they wanted a fight). Where do you people hear these things??? Looking forward to seeing you and Zeke there :smileytongue:

Venus Petrov wrote: @Mags: I could make an argument that some vanity threads might be brown-nosing to content creators but that argument would be ridiculous. What is insulting to me are patently personal insults. There are none in the Lexie thread. YAY for humor! ETA: Mags, I know you are not arguing the point you raise. Nope - seeing as I took part in it and 'outed' myself as having a crush on Torley :smileysurprised:

Storm Clarence wrote: Why Mags? The thread was never offered to offend anyone. It was SL related. It had a touch of humor. If all we can create are vanity threads - I'm out. Happy St. Patrick's Day. Break a leg tonight. Firstly I thought some people might take exception to it's frivilous nature and perhaps make a case (or try to) that the people participating in it were either 'brownnosing' or 'insulting' - depending on their humour. As for tonight - thanks I think (I don't have to actually break a leg do I? I'm notmuch of a one for pain)

I'm looking forward to extending your range Dillon :smileytongue:

Sylvia Tamalyn wrote: My plan is to be at the Hangout, cheering you on! :smileyhappy: Well the playlist is ready... and it's... great (ly different) :smileyhappy: I've begun drinking - bath - nap and then some more drinking Yeah I'll be just right by 6 :smileywink:

@George & everyone else. I often wonder if LL deactivated accounts that hadn't been accessed by their 'controllers' for say 12 months what the real population of SL might be. Then one would have to take alts into account as well - most people I know have at least one or two for different reasons. To be honest I'd prefer if LL did that rather than a hyper-inflated population fiction. Erm... I'm not sure that has anything to do with this conversation - so ignore and carry on :smileytongue:

*Sighs and passes you a pint of Guinness and a sprig of shamrock - yerra you're probably right - but 'tis Paddy's Day - so... let's get drunk and forget... or something

@Griffin - ain't culture a great and wonderous thing - thank you for that. :smileyhappy: