Rya Nitely

The experiment of shifting costs (not making more profit for LL or helping LL survive), I have a feeling it hasn't really worked. I was on mainland watching the vacant land all around me at the time the extra land came out. I bought more, and so did others around me. They tried to rent it out or resell it and it all failed and the land was once more abandoned, just as I abandoned mine. I'd love to know where the plan has worked, and since Ebbe Linden was forthcoming enough to tell us about the plan, and since we are paying for it, then it would be nice to tell us about the current results of this experiment.

Here's the rest of Ebbe's response. He makes it clear that he doesn't really know what impact all this will have on retention rates. It's a wait and see experiment. "EL: ......................... people in the world who are sort-of getting away with not being charged enough or taxed enough for how they use the product. So, we’re trying to shift cost from land to other places. Also now with this experiment, it will take a while for us to see what will it do to retention rates, and how much more land will people buy or retain over time because of the lower rates. And based on seeing that data and that feedback, we can sort-of speculate on what we can do next. So right now, we have no plans to do anything other than what we just did, and we need to let that run for a while, and see what the impact of that is. If it doesn’t change any other behaviour, and we’re just charging less, then it might be difficult for us to take additional steps. If we see a positive response in retention rates and land ownership rates, etc., they we’ll be looking forward to taking additional steps." https://modemworld.me/lab-chat-3-bento-and-second-life/#mainland So, Alyona, if LL don't know the full impact this will have, then can you be so sure?

Please add a Filter button in the MP Merchant Order History so that we can see how often an item has sold over a certain period of time, and to whom. Or is it too complicated? Like this

'More changes are coming in short order. The ability to filter limited quantity and demo items is just around the corner. A number of improvements for navigating shopping and order history for shoppers, and a way to prevent limited-quantity item redelivery for the Merchants. Mobile-friendly layouts are coming. Additionally, we’re working to improve the ability for Merchants to issue refunds. We’re also planning to give the Marketplace a facelift later in the year, and we’re looking into a way to develop a native vendor system that better connects inworld sales and tracking with Marketplace transactions. ' The ability to filter limited quantity and demo items is just around the corner. What we asked for is 'demo listings and color/option listings consolidated' so we don't have to filter. Give merchants the ability to sell all colours and demo within one listing. A number of improvements for navigating shopping and order history for shoppers. Good for shoppers. Please add features that help merchants too, such as some listed in this thread and recent jiras. we’re working to improve the ability for Merchants to issue refunds. Now that you're taking 10% this is actually a necessity (not an improvement). This should have been fixed BEFORE the increase. We’re also planning to give the Marketplace a facelift later in the year I doubt I'll be impressed but I'll wait and see. we’re looking into a way to develop a native vendor system that better connects inworld sales and tracking with Marketplace transactions. FORGET this one. This sounds more like a threat than an improvement. Why not just say 'we're looking at a way to take a fee from your inworld sales as well'. Stop right there!

I just created 2 jiras, and I'll never create another if my time was wasted doing these. https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/BUG-228000 https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/BUG-227999

leave a small space between the two planes.

You're right Rey, I guess there's no point. Just put up with it, is all we can do 😞

LL, you call it significant improvements, we call it minor tweeks. You change things that should have been there for us since the beginning - things that were faults with your system and then you charge us double for fixing things. Some things that come to mind that need fixing - Top selling items 😕 what does this mean? If I sold 1000s of some outdated item several years ago, this is my top selling item, although it hardly ever sells now? Why would I need to know that? What we need is top selling within a certain time period - past 12 month, past 3 months, past month - this would be useful. Also the ability to see how often one particular item has sold within a certain time period. Best Selling on MP Store - I don't know what this means either, because when I filter for best selling on my MP store, these are not my best selling. Relevance is more like best selling. Ability to Edit listings directly in Manage Items - hit edit and get editable boxes directly in manage items to change prices etc. This is what we had in the Xstreet days. Inform customers about redelivery - Customers don't know they can redeliver items (or how), and so it takes us more time to explain it to them that it takes to just do it. Send out an email to all members or put it on a banner on MP for a couple of months. I don't know what other improvements have been made because I probably don't use/need it, but I'm sure I (and others) can think of many more fixes that need to be made....... without extra charge, since we are already paying too much for what we don't get.

Nothing happens except every tuesday you get booted off for a bit with sim restarts or whatever they do, and that's it. The rest of the time everything is stable.

yes, we don't want to kill anybody, landlords or merchants alike. I still don't get what support a homestead owner would need. What support? As I said before I have owned homesteads, up to 3, and never ever needed support until one time with my tier meter and they did nothing for me anyway. Have to live without one.

Until recently I owned a parcel on mainland. I needed them to get rid of the floating pen!s thingies that were all over my land, griefing my customers. Someone didn't like me for some unknown reason. They did it quite promptly. At one time I wanted to buy the abandoned land next to mine and the next day it was for sale for me. But there are no rules like if someone puts up a horrible privacy screen or has glaring bright light, and I guess private landlords would help because there would be rules. But LL could just sell isolated homesteads, like the one I have, with no need to own a full sim. That would give me a reason to continue my premium membership, which I drop next month.

I've rented homesteads (up to 3 at one time) from Fruit Islands since 2008. I've never needed customer support until recently. My tier meter stopped working because they changed management. I was told to rez it again, but it still doesn't work. Then I was told to go to their pay terminal and that will tell me about my rent. And that was it, I deleted the tier meter So, I don't know what they do, sorry. I wish I did but I still don't know. They do take a huge gamble by buying land and then hoping to get a profit, so I will give them that. It's a huge gamble. Edit: Trying to resolve conflicts between tenants. I remember that years ago when I rented for Dream Islands. They did help there.

sounds terrible for them

I don't know what landowners do. I know what merchants/creators have to do - learn mesh; provide customer support; fix things that break because something has changed - all my boats for instance, the camera view has suddenly changed and I don't know why. And this happens too often with scripted items, good for years and then something stuffs up - thank you LL; the tedious task of listing items on MP; the hours...days....weeks of trying to get that item/texture/script just right to avoid the dreaded 1 star, and then stop in the middle of your concentration to give customer support and have a friendly, polite chat. And am I working now? No, because I just don't feel any drive to do it. All those boats with the stuffed up camera view that was good for over 10 years, I'll probably end up getting 1 star before too long. But I need to work on the script so people can change the cam view themselves, and I'm not a scripter but I have to learn since my partner is gone from SL. Anyway after many many hours I finally have it working and have to add it to all my boats, and then rezzers too. And that's a snapshot of my life as a merchant - yes, I get more money for this than I deserve 😕 Please fill me in on what landowners do?

This is also worth posting again. From Ebbe at Lab Chat May 2016 EL: Well, I’m glad you’re happy. I mean I’ve been saying for quite a while that we’ve been aware that pricing of land has been a core issue, so we’re trying to be sensible about how we start to lower some of the cost, and as you’ve noticed, we’ve also taken some actions to pick-up some of the revenue elsewhere; on the exchange and on the redemption side of the equation to compensate a little bit for this. Because yes, i do believe that the burden of land owners is a bit too high, and we have other people in the world who are sort-of getting away with not being charged enough or taxed enough for how they use the product. So, we’re trying to shift cost from land to other places. https://modemworld.me/lab-chat-3-bento-and-second-life/#mainland