Sassy Romano

ralph Alderton wrote: The only things that should be full perm are scripts and textures Why are scripts to be considered less in IP value than your mesh? A no mod script with a published link message interface is easy to use. No reason for that to be full perm at all!

Kolby Nissondorf wrote: Ever heard of Google? Google is ok for the purposes of comprehension and making conversation understood. It is far from a suitable method for instructional material for example. A native speaker is far better.

Same. Given a choice of all of the options, one that i'd vote highly for is customer redelivery. We also offer it inworld for inworld transactions. We can enable it for Marketplace transactions but given that Marketplace ANS information is sent at the time of purchase and not the time of delivery, if the MP then goes comatose for 8 hours but tells our vending system that there was a purchase, someone could self redeliver inworld and then 8 hours later, MP refunds them. Not what i'd call a transactional log by any fashion. So that makes ANS unsuitable for this purpose and in fact logging MP transactions at all to be honest since there's no refund transaction to reverse a transaction ever sent.

Chelsea has already made good points. For me, although traffic is a metric, I couldn't give a rats arse about "TRAFFIC". For me, the worst sales locations are the ones with the very high traffic because they're typically newbie footfall and newbies aren't my target demographic nor do they usually have any money. I'll take qualified traffic any day over pure traffic and by qualified traffic, that's people typically with money that are my market segment. Also, as Chelsea says, merchants will often receive many invites to malls and for new venues, I too offer affiliates. Simple logic, people who work hard at promoting their venue will usually make more from my affiliates. If they don't and they earn less than rent, why would I rent either? Here is my statement from my profile to mall owners:- "Before asking me to rent, please think about the following:- "Who are your visitors, why will they visit, what makes your place unique amongst other similar malls. What's the *REAL* traffic, how many of those are RLV users. Do you redesign things on a whim, move the landing point for example?. How do you promote the mall and vendors, what will you do for ME to increase my sales?". If you have a new mall then I will offer you my affiliate vendors, the same as I would rez. That's your chance to demonstate that the location is viable. If it is, you'll make far more than you would through rent anyway, if it's not then I wouldn't be paying rent for very long either! Mall owners and merchants should be a partnership, if you just want me to rent to pay for your land and entertainment, i'm probably not the best tennant for you." The products that I sell are my creations, the product that you "sell" is not the mall space (I can get land anywhere), but the qualified customers passing by my items. Can you sell that? Different things work but "the greatest new club with mall attached", "two months free rent", "sploder", "competitions/hunts", bring something innovative to the table if you can. I'm quite happy to plop down a satellite store but it won't do anyone any good if there's nobody to see it and of those who do, they have no money and aren't in my demographic. So the question Matt is, why will people visit your mall, who are you wishing to attract and what will you do to make it happen?

Ember Undercroft wrote: And the new avatar stuff looks great, and didn't steal my lindens! You were lucky! I opened the pirate folder and now i'm pregnant!

I think what Smoothie is getting at is how you market your space to a merchant. as a merchant I want:- appropriate traffic qualified shoppers with money visibility If I rent in the middle of nowhere, no matter how many prims I get for a great low price, how do I get people to see my efforts of labour? on the other hand, if I rent half the prims at double the rate at a themed location populated by my target market, you'd probably expect me to rent that one and you'd be right

further to ziggy's post, aside from the advertising I do on MP, each month I renew some mall spots that never make money. its just brand awareness and advertising.

well I would but... nobody wants to sell clothes without resize scripts and just let me fit them properly

I'm going to be the black sheep here by saying I don't think it's needed. With the land ads, there's just one product type... land. If there was a general "New Products" forum, is there really that much value in it being full of totally unrelated products one after the other? How soon before your new product is 20 pages down the list? I would expect it to be about the same as the "Featured Items" scrolling view in the mishmash of items that would be in it and products would soon get lost in noise. Surely if you want exposure you pay for it under featured items or if it's more suited to a category, then a category landing page. I could only see value where there were subforums for product categories but then i'm right back to my statement above about category landing pages. Personally, I suspect it would be rather like my attempt to watch the group Fashcon which lasted about a day, during which every few minutes there'd be another group message of more clothes that I wasn't interested in. I understand that it might be seen as an omission but don't forget that a forum would be free advertising and LL wants hands on the L$'s from the paid advertising

Just clarify which way around this is:- 1) The products are inworld and you want to take payment on a website and have them delivered inworld 2) The products are on a website and you want to take payment inworld It's not clear to me from the original post.

Chelsea Malibu wrote: I am not sure how a single prim vendor could allow you to scroll through objects but it could be done, I'm just not sure how you would do the graphics as it would need a macros done that sets the selection points on the prim you need to touch. Quite easy really, a single prim scrolling vendor can be made if you think of it this way (not precise but to give the idea). Make a Triangle shaped prim with width, then flatten it so now you have two forward facing faces. One of those has the product texture displayed on its face, the other has the texture for "buttons" which are detected by llDetectedTouchUV to work out where on the face it was touched for forwards or backwards. (Edit: In between my crash while posting, someone gave better steps for that ) Personally I loathe scrolling vendors. I rarely scroll through them unless it's a colour set. Scrolling is far too time consuming waiting for textures to rez when i'm shopping and I assume the same frustration would be experienced by customers. Plus, they are ok if all the products have the same sales value by volume. It's no good having prime products being left undisplayed while some minor insignificant product is on full display. Plus, some such as hippo are so easy to accidentally pay the little picture and you end up purchasing the big picture item. More hassle with incorrect purchases to deal with. I favour single prim network vendors. Our affiliates can get a live view of our top 30 mainstore selling products which is useful for them if they have limited prims to work with, it gives them a good idea of what to concentrate on.

What Amarock was getting at is "what can you offer a potential employer? What's the value to the employer in them giving you a job?"

ask them and point them to the JIRA, it's not your fault.

oh then see Ishtara's comment, totally unenforceable, undetectable in other ways and somewhat unreasonable. Since it can't be determined what they're taking a picture of it could be their own nose and nothing else. All I have to do is F10 in Fraps for screen cap or F9 for video, you'd never know What on earth sort of place is it?

Tamara Artis wrote: I need to see when someone takes a snapshot. why?

I wonder if this is as a result of recent sim code changes that have impacted "juiced" scripts. Scripts which were taking advantage of tricks to boost their performance? I can see how that would be the case here as it might have been employed those methods to claim enhanced script time to make the door move smoothly rather than in steps. Now that they have broken those methods that might be why. This is speculation, best to contact the script provider.

Phil Deakins wrote: There is still reference to what Blondin told us all. As far as I know, what he told us was never put into a more formal setting like the text you pasted, but it still exists for all to see, so it's not wiped from LL's memory at all. The formal setting doesn't get into specific details but, in answer to specific questions, Blondin gave specific answers and that's still good enough. Nothing has changed. Do you have a link to that, something official from LL? Again, this information that was once posted, office hour logs have now been removed (apparently). Unofficial quotes and postings aren't quite the same so quoted text (easily manipulated) in a now closed forum doesn't really carry the same weight. Blondin doesn't work at LL anymore, not sure if you're aware? The definitive cited text is all that now exists in an official form from LL, personal judgement beyond the scope of that remains just that, personal judgement against any interpretation that LL makes, it's that simple to me. Doesn't bother me either way what someone else chooses to do *shrugs*

Ciaran Laval wrote: You can sell sex beds on moderate rated land and you can set the parcel to show in search, you can't invite people to get nekkid on said sex beds in the store. Yes but it it cannot use adult keywords which are found by search. At that point the region must be adult.

Phil Deakins wrote: The text that you copied and pasted here doesn't state what I said explicitly. I'm referring to what Blondin stated explicitly in the public discussions at the time leading up to the introduction of adult land; Yes that's my point entirely and that of the other thread. There is no longer ANY reference to the comments made by Blondin or any of the others. Those comments are now effectively wiped from LL's memory so something has most definitely changed. Comments by departed Lindens may hold no value. Therefore, the only remaining definitive reference IS the text I pasted and that's the one which will be used no doubt in any disputes and none of us can presume to know the fine points of what is and what is not allowed in the absence of clearer definitions. As with any laws/rules, they change over time, claiming what was once true may no longer be the case. It's all up to LL.

The definition of adult content makes no exclusion or implied exception for "as long as they don't display bits". This was the subject of another forum thread, that the content of the meetings and statements from the likes of Blondin Linden who stated such has now been condensed into vague blurb, subject to interpretation. Nobody is saying you're wrong, nor that it's right, One can only take what is published by LL (that which I provided earlier) and make their own subjective interpretation. Likelihood is that nobody would complain, if they do, then it's up to LL and how they choose to moderate their platform.

Chelsea Malibu wrote: BTW Sassy, are you on the LL Adult Advisory Group? If not let me know, we need to get you an invite into that forum. Don't think so, I don't get out much

Adult The Adult designation applies to Second Life regions that host, conduct, or display content that is sexually explicit, intensely violent, or depicts illicit drug use. A region must be designated Adult if it hosts, advertises, or publicly promotes: •Representations of intensely violent acts, for example depicting death, torture, dismemberment or other severe bodily harm, whether or not photo-realistic (meaning that images either are or cannot be distinguished from a photograph). •Photo-realistic nudity. •Expressly sexually themed content, spaces or activities, whether or not photo-realistic. We broadly define what is "sexually themed" to include any sexually oriented activities and conduct. Marketplace is more specific and under adult content states:- Content or items intended for use in, or primarily associated with, erotic or sexual roleplay.Erotic roleplay? What's that? Does that include lingerie otherwise what purpose does it serve? However, good news, it's ok to sell non-explicit sex animations under Moderate as long as they're rubbish, see here:- Intimate avatar animations, as long as they do not depict sexual activity that is explicit or highly realistic.

As far as I can still interpret, this is ok as long as the items/shop is not advertised in search. It can be discovered but as soon as you promote the sale of such items in search then it needs to be adult. Roll on the removal of M and just give us back G and A.

Well since you asked for comments based on experience. In my experience, I looked at Hippo and following the response to some security concerns around its operation, chose not to use it. My review was left on the MP product listing, it may or may not still be there.

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