Phil Deakins

AnnMarie Otoole wrote: How come no one else has been able to make a self navigating vehicle? To my certain knowledge, you have already been given the answer to that question. But, in case you forgot, the answer is... because nobody else wants to pollute the roads like you do. Your question implies that you are the only SL user who is actually capable of doing it, and you are categorically wrong about that. Many of us are capable of doing it, but you're the only who is happy to to pollute SL. They first check to see if the test pos is in the same sim because you can't detect land parameters across a sim boundary. The inability to check across sim boundaries need never be problematic to your vehicles, because roads don't suddenly change direction across sim boundaries. So that excuse doesn't hold any water at all. If it did hold water, then you should scrap the whole thing because, for the reason you mentioned, sim boundaries can stop the vehicles in their tracks. Your excuse failed.

I say no, don't do it. 1. It isn't Coney island, so she won't get any Coney Island type of pleasure from it. 2. What she would get, if your fears are realised, is an impression of her uncle that you probably don't want her to have. 3. The ToS would prevent her from logging in and going there, but nothing can prevent a child from watching an adult's screen. Nevertheless, the fact that she would not be allowed to go there as avatar strongly suggests that it's best she does not watch. 4. The very fact that you posted the question is a strong indication to you that it's best left alone.

A3123 wrote: Dillon Leveling wrote: Oh, fascinating. You're not an average troll? You're an architecture critic and that glimpse of my build disturbed you so much you couldn't help but comment? Okay, I'll accept your criticism but only on certain conditions. Your avatar's SL life started on the 5th of this month. In spite of having started Second Life as recently as the 5th of August, 2013, and having only arrived at the Forum on the 10th of August, you've already made your presence felt in the Answers Forum. You've even acquired 3 kudos for the wit and wisdom of your answers, you clever bunny! In short, it is quite obvious you are hiding behind an alt. If you will respond to this thread with your REAL avatar (with a full admission in public that A3123 is your alt), I'll invite you to my hideous place on the mainland and let you take pictures to your heart's content so that you may thus expose me as the pathetic excuse for a builder I am. The point was, if there was a point, is that your build is just as ugly as the car you are claiming is to you is. Everyone who complains about the automated cars cluttering up and uglifying the Mainland are ignoring the fact that the mainland is already an ugly waste. If it has to do with script or server resources, no one is ever there anyways, if it is just you and a hundred automated cars I am sure you will do just fine, just get off your Atari 300 and upgrade already. You do post a lot of nonsense. There is nothing visually ugly about Dillon's hedge. And there is nothing visually ugly about the vehicle. But the vehicle was parked on top of the hedge, and that *was* visually ugly. No it's not. Some small areas may be but mainland isn't "in an ugly state". That's more nonsense from you. I agree with Dillon about you. You are nothing but a troll, posting whatever comes into your head with sole the intention of getting reactions from your 'victims' - winding people up. That's what a troll does and that's what most of your posts are posted for, as evidenced by the fact that many or most of them contain the opposite of sense.

A3123 wrote: You asked why do i bother if I do not get paid for it, but the moderators do. My answer was life is more about doing things whether or not you get paid to do them. If the moderators did not do their job wouldn't these forums be filled with spam? Yes. They are from time to time, but eventually it all gets removed. What is it specifically you have an issue with? I didn't ask you specifically but you are a forum user so you are included in the word "we". Your answer was absolutely correct - life is more about doing things whether or not we are paid to do them. But I already addressed that in detail, in my reply to your "mother" post. In post #17 I already answered your question. Perhaps you've been replying to earlier posts as you read them and hadn't read post #17 when you wrote the one I'm replying to now.

That thought has crossed my mind a number of times, Perrie. And their 'job description' may excuse them to some extent, but it can't excuse them for warning and suspending users when the users haven't done anything against the ToS, or in any wrong. But they do, and I can only think that do they do it without engaging their brains (laziness). I can't imagine that LL would tell them to warn and suspend merely on the receipt of RICs, regardless of whether or not the RICs are justified. That's what they do though. Surely, not even LL would tell them to do that. I am sure that it's just down to laziness. I.e. they don't *have* to check things out because nobody is looking over their shoulders, so they don't bother.

Amethyst Jetaime wrote: AnnMarie Otoole wrote: Very close to 300,000 riders now by over 100,000 different people. You may have 300k newbs riding your crap (which we only have your word for) but you have interfered with the enjoyment of probably twice as many residents by littering vehicles all over their property, creating a general eyesore and blocking roads for people who want to ride their own vehicle to ride on the mainland. To be fair, and there's absolutely no reason why I should be in this case, it's probable that the claimed vehicle riders were a mix of old and new users and not mostly noobs. I say that because I feel sure that a great many old users have hopped on a vehicle just for the sake of it, and hopped off again a minute or less later. They aren't exactly claimable as passengers or riders but the vehicle system will add them just the same. I've never seen anyone riding one of her vehicles, so I guess that just about everyone who hops on one, hops off again not many seconds later because the vehicles move excruciatingly slowly and zig and zag all over the place. They don't provide anything that could be considered acceptable as a 'ride'.

What are "bus stop rezzers"?

A3123 wrote: Phil Deakins wrote: There are people who are paid to monitor the forums and deal with spam. We aren't paid to help them, so why do it? If the only requirement or motivation to do anything was pay, then why do anything at all? I've omitted your nonsense about a burning parent. I didn't say or suggest anything about only doing things that we are paid to do, and the suggestion that I did is ridiculous. The point about the so-called moderators here is that they *don't* do what they are here for and paid to do. Yes, they remove the spam but they are also here to moderate (a moderator moderates), and they don't do that. When they show that they actually moderate (do what they are paid to do), then I will be more than happy to assist by reporting the spam. Until then, I won't do it. I'm thinking specifically about the warnings they issue without first engaging their brains.

Perrie Juran wrote: Hmmmm......can you set a bot up to follow a 'path?' To elaborate on Qie's answer... yes, a bot can be made to follow a path or, more precisely, to move from point to point.

Jo Yardley wrote: I love that idea, especially as the avatar that keeps all the money looks like a proper evil land lord. But I fear it just wouldn't be practical. We have over 100 tenants in one region. Actually, it is quite practical. I did it on my own with over 60 tenants, and you used the word "we" so I assume there is more than one of you. Even so, it's much better to it in the way you wrote about, but doing it by hand isn't a bad method.

jwenting wrote: because we care about these forums, maybe? You're also not paid to whine and complain, yet you do so incessantly. Why? Perhaps for the same reason you do; i.e. I do it when I see something that merits it. Why do you do it? Nevertheless, there are good things and bad things concerning this forum, SL, and LL. I only ever complain about things that genuinely merit it. I give praise where it's merited too.

Czari Zenovka wrote: Phil Deakins wrote: In your first post, you said the bots come to your sim. Now you say they turn up at certain live events you go to. Is it one, or the other, or both? Anyone who wanted to check were you are would almost certainly do it the easy way - create a new alt and TP to places where you might be. Creating a bot that TPs to places where you may be isn't anywhere near as easy or simple. I knew you'd be back. It must be in my genes, making it impossible for me not to post in this thread.

There are people who are paid to monitor the forums and deal with spam. We aren't paid to help them, so why do it?

In your first post, you said the bots come to your sim. Now you say they turn up at certain live events you go to. Is it one, or the other, or both? Anyone who wanted to check were you are would almost certainly do it the easy way - create a new alt and TP to places where you might be. Creating a bot that TPs to places where you may be isn't anywhere near as easy or simple.

I wonder if the so-called moderators will spot the current crop of one-off spam posts, or if the posts will survive if nobody reports them. I'm not going to report them.

Czari Zenovka wrote: Phil Deakins wrote: Czari Zenovka wrote: *Pulls up a chair and waits for Phil to enter the thread* I'm going to pass on this thread because there's nothing in it to interest me Well dangit! A thread about your favorite topic. *Sighs, picks up my chair and moves on* Yes I know, but there are some uses of bots that are of no interest to me at all, and this looks like one of them. The good ol' days of traffic bots have largely gone now

PeterCanessa Oh wrote: Snoopencil wrote: What use is a bot to anyone?? There are two ways of programming things for SL. Within SL itself you can write a script using LSL, which is how objects that 'do something' (eg; doors, vendors, vehicles, etc.) are made. LSL has some limitations, however, that an avatar does not. For instance, a script can't issue a join invitation for a closed group. An object, and therefore the script inside it, can't have money either, only the owning avatar/group. Which leads to the other way of programming - create an avatar as normal then write/use a programme on your own computer to operate it for you. This IS a bot (and they should be marked as such in their profiles IIRC). There are two immediate uses from what I've put above - use them to control group invitations and for accounting. 24/7. Just remember to leave your computer on :-) There's no need to mark them as bots in their profiles. Their account must, however, be registered as 'scripted agents'. There is no way for we users to know whether or not an avatar is registered as a scripted agent.

Czari Zenovka wrote: *Pulls up a chair and waits for Phil to enter the thread* I'm going to pass on this thread because there's nothing in it to interest me

Well, you're getting some very strange results because neither the HUD nor the prim should need the copy permission - because neither is being copied. I haven't done all the tests but I reported what I found with the test that I did.

In the other thread, you mentioned that you crash even when stretching an object. I remember from years ago that I would silently crash when editing an object, including moving it, stretching it, etc. I could be happily working on it for half an hour after I'd silently been disconnected, but I wouldn't know until I started to move my avatar - and couldn't. None of my editing was saved, of course, because I hadn't been connected for ages. I doubt that that will provide any clues but I thought I'd mention it anyway.

Just the root prim needs to be set as mod; i.e. when the edit box is opened, it's the root prim until 'Edit Linked' is checked and a child prim is clicked on.

I hadn't tested it before but I have now, and my alt, who is not on my friends list, so doesn't have permissions over my objects set, can remove and add contents to a modifiable HUD that I made and she's wearing.

As I've just said to Czari, I prefer the unmistakable animation. Then no customer can wonder whether or not I'm not replying to them.

Yes, I've seen AOs that indicate typing without the default typing animation, but what I've seen is only recognisable after being with a person for a bit of time so, with customers, I prefer the unmistakable animation. Since I created my AO myself, I could add a button to turn the typing animation on and off, of course - if I wanted to, that is

If the HUD is modify, then the owner can put stuff into its contents. The permissions of the prim (to be put into the HUD's contents) don't matter. Perhaps it isn't possible when the HUD is being worm.