Jo Yardley

This is a old but lovely video about someone building a virtual world in the future. This is what I have in mind when I dream about what Second Life one day may be. Handkerchiefs ready?

Think this video deserves its own topic?

Glad you all like the video. I love that, even though this technology is years away from us, it did remind me of SL a lot and it had to laugh to see that even his amazing virtual city starts with 1 prim

I wish that one day SL will be like this;

-Lower tiers -Cheaper regions -More prims -Better environment editor (I want to deside what time of day it is in my sim and have it change automatically all the time) -Build in video record option -Discounts (again) for educational sims -LL recueing fantastic sims from dissapearing when their owners leave or can no longer afford it. -More realistically scaled sims -More realistically scaled avatars for new people -Better avatar appearance editorwith realistic measurements -A few zillion linden in my pocket so I can build all the sims I'm dreaming about

I love the shadows, unfortunately they only work on viewer 2 and only very very very slow. Only use it for the odd picture;

Many people in SL use flickr to show off their clothing, their adventures, their houses, etc, etc. So, lets share some flickrs! I hope this is OK to post, BUT I think it may not be OK to share links to adult flickr groups and so on, so let's keep that in mind. I'd love to know links to your favourite Flickr groups, flickr groups you created for your SL sims/groups or just your personal flickr collection. Just for curiousity sake. Here is the one beloning to our group; http://www.flickr.com/groups/20sberlin Here some extra attention to our scrapbook made by a member of our project; http://www.flickr.com/photos/1920sberlin/sets/72157626947399807/with/5882163991/ As for groups to share... Historical sims in SL; http://www.flickr.com/groups/historicalsims/ Flickrites of Second Life; http://www.flickr.com/groups/slflickrites/ Very suitable; the SL 8th birthday sims group; http://www.flickr.com/groups/secondlifebirthday/ Now show us yours :)

I'm very happy with the metric system being used in SL, saves me a lot of time converting all sorts of measurements all the time. But of course if you are in a country with they use another system it is the other wat around. Whatever system you use there will always be people who prefer another... imagine leaving the choice to the user! Imagine us being able to set our SL viewer to metric or imperial or whatever... Until that option is here, lets stick to what we've got. Isnt the metric system used by more people anyway?

To me animals are non-humans. Anyway, we're getting a bit off topic.

Pussycat Catnap wrote: You could be Bill Clinton's lawyer with logic like that. Taking my statements and twisting around their intent to find the narrow exception and suddenly declare yourself inclusive. You can set whatever exclusion standards make sense to you - but you're still barring large sections of the SL population which makes you a bad choice for any showcase example. I'm not twisting anything around, you said we don't allow non-humans, I say we do. And I reckon we'd be a good choice for a realistic historical roleplay example.

Yes but you said "not allow non-humans", but we do, we allow animals. That's what I meant.

I think it would be great for EVERYONE if LL let us set our camera where we want it to be and then lock it. I think it would be great for those of us interested in realistic avatars and all future people who join SL if at least some of the standard starter avatars are realistically scaled. Let people CHOOSE to be bigger then normal, give them the freedom to be realistic from the beginning onwards. You can always change your avatar, make it bigger, smaller, etc. But now you are send into SL thinking you are just a normal realistic avatar and only realise you're not when someone tells you. THAT would change a lot WITHOUT forcing anyone to be smaller, taller, or change their avatar in any other way.

We're having a relaxed dresscode rules day on the 17th next month, on that day EVERYONE is welcome as long as they are not naked, a nazi or a naked nazi. So feel free to come and have a look then, without having to change a bit. Also our plot in SL8 (around till the 2nd of next month I think) will give you some idea of our sims scale. We do allow non-humans by the way, as long as they are realistic. Plenty of animals in Berlin. I wouldn't have a problem with anything being showcased that wouldn't allow realistic human avatars btw. To each its own.

1920s Berlin is build in semi-realistic scale. I had to make some concessions here and there, mostly because when I started building I had been in SL for just a few weeks and was not yet sure about scale and going totally realistic. So it is an ongoing process and my 83924795739 next sims will be more and more 'up to scale' And having over 70 tenants in one region I have to keep in mind that it is not good to have tenants running around with big bumps on their heads. But we've had cars made scale 1:1, streets, allyways, houses, clubs, they are all generally a lot smaller then we're used to in SL. I have to confess I made many doors a little larger then I wanted to and not all rooms are tiny and as small as I would like but it really does work rather well. We notice many visitors who after a few times decide to make their avatar smaller and love it. It is really odd but most people in SL live in huge villas, apartments, palaces, castles, etc. People live in luxery, looking like models. And I offer them tiny, often 1 room apartments where they can barely swing a cat, live very close to their neighbours, often have factories nearby with annoying sounds all day, thei have dirty walls, rarely a bath room and often they even have to share a toilet. People told me nobody would ever want to live like that, I myself wondered if anyone would ever want to live there. We are celebrating our 2nd anniversary next month and we've had a full occupancy rate almost since the beginning and a very exciting well working community. We also have a little plot at the SL8 regions, also in our semi-realistic scale. It has a dance club and a show room apartment above it. So you can freely have a look there without having to change your appearance, just in case I made the bits above the doors phantom so even taller avatars have no problem going inside. http://slurl.com/secondlife/SL8B Dazzle/53/245/22

Ok, is it me or has group chat improved a LOT recently? Yes knocking on wood! Not that long ago we practically totally ignored our SL group, with over 700 members it was too laggy to chat with. But recently it SEEMS to be working a lot better... or have I been drinking too much virtual absinth again?

Pussycat Catnap wrote: Complete 123% failure to grasp the concept here. Getting good scale and proportion will actually improve the ability to make attractive avatars. With all due respect, your math is wrong. It should be 683%

Could you please check if I'm not drinking cola before posting such pictures? You made me laugh so hadr cola came out of my nose and sprayed all over the room. :matte-motes-big-grin-evil:

It has at least been going on since I joined SL about 2 or so years ago but it has been getting stronger and stronger. I also think that if realism comes to SL a bit more it will make fantasy sims and avatars even more exciting.

Very old but very funny He even made a sequal I think.

In our sim giant men are an exception, most men here have a realistic size. I guess it all depends on how much you hang out with realistic sized women

Yes I am. I wear vintage every day of the week so darning stockings is almost a daily chore for me.

Maybe we should make a T-shirt; "I went to 1920s Berlin and all I got was a bump on the head"

Hiro Pendragon wrote: Amen! What would be ways to encourage mass adoption of this? 1. Linden default AVs need to be shorter. Without this, it's a losing battle. Period. 2. The editor for avatars should show what the person's height is as one edits. "Oh, hey, 7' tall? That's a little much. Lemme scale it down a bit..." 3. Widespread ridicule of tall avatars. (Kidding. .... sort of...) Yes exactly that. NOBODY cares if people want to be different have weird, unusual, fantasy, giant, barbie like or whatever kind of body. That is one of the great things about SL, you can be what or who you want to be. I often see avatars that I think are absolutely awesome even if they are totally unrealistic. For me personally realism is what I want in my sim, my roleplay, my second life. Everyone should be what they want to be. AS LONG we know what is average and realistic. This way people can create stuff that fits everyone OR for giants OR for tinies or whatever. SL has a realistic scale, everyone who builds knows that, if you put a prim down it is half a meter by half a meter by half a meter. Nothing to discuss there, it is what it is. It is plain weird that they never considered using the same scale for the avatars. So these 3 points are great. The default human avatars should be realistically scaled so everyone who joins SL knows they are what they are and can then decide to be very tall or very small but at least they know. And yes, as soon as you start playing with your avatar you should see the measurements change. If it was up to me we would see all sorts of measurements. I'd LOVE to just put my RL measurements into the editor and see an avatar look just like RL me, right now it is all a bit of guess work. And yes, a little FRIENDLY FUN POLITE ridicule is always ok... sort of

Please do. I've just shared the link to this topic on our facebook group and I was considering re-writing it and adding my own pictures so I could post it to our SL berliners (of course mentioning your name).

This is me in RL. As you can see, totally different to my SL. In SL I live in 1920s Berlin, in RL I live in 1930s Amsterdam.