Nalytha

I've lowered the price to L$3/m2

I'm selling this small water parcel at L$4.2/m2 117 prims http://maps.secondlife.com/secondlife/Malitz/171/231/26

Thank you for your response. I hadn't even thought of auctions. This is the closest I've found to what I want. It's actually exactly what I want, but the smallest lot is still a bit too big for me. https://community.secondlife.com/t5/Region-for-Rent-Full-Private/WILLOWDALE-ESTATE-Where-Luxury-Means-Something/m-p/3037601/highlight/true#M14996

As an update for the general thread: Since I have the 1024 tier allowance anyway for the next year, I believe what I will do next is make a home in the sky. A lot of really good points were made here. Although I really like the idea of renting private, you are right, I have no idea when the owner could leave us high and dry. On top of that, I would be missing the point of two premium accounts -- the tier allowance and instead spending a premium price in rent. I will make sure to take your advice into account and keep the sky home out of view of neighboring skyhomes.

Ilithios, I thank you for your feedback in this thread. Being newer to Second Life, the nuances are still unknown in many situations. I will take your words to heart and consider my actions in the future. At this point, I still disagree with you, but I find I can add nothing more to our discussion and it would appear that you are at the same place, resorting to personal attacks. I hope you have a pleasant day.

I paid for the land knowing exactly how much it was. I wasn't blackmailed. I looked at the land and said "This is worth it to me."

And we have no idea what he paid for all of his parcels (which he bought at different times). We have no idea if he paid 5k or 10k or 20k (Per sqm). The fact of the matter is, he paid what he thought it was worth in all of those situations. He weighed the cost against his enjoyment in SL.

I'm not sure if you noticed, but I used the general reply in my last post. Depolorable? I bought the land at 10k (per sqm). Are you saying I'm the only person in SL who would have made the decision that it was worth 10k? Did the person who sold it at 10k act deplorable? Was I taken advantage of? Was it really so deplorable that someone got land they wanted for $12 more than I paid? I spend around the same for a 2 hour movie. Is the film industry taking advantage of me too? What you don't seem to understand is that if that person felt I was taking advantage of him, he would NOT have bought the land OR he could have contacted me to open up negotiations. I look at beach land prices a lot lately. I see land over 10k. I don't know how much of it sells, but I do know one thing -- it sells if someone wants it. This had a pretty sunset view, was on a corner piece (though it's hard to see. The back was protected I believe (behind his parcel), the front was protected, and our neighbors to the right were for the most part in theme (except the large box, which was only a problem when zoomed out.

I wasn't going to keep the sign up forever. I actually posted it in an attempt to get his attention to the fact that I was selling. He may have not realized otherwise that the land was available for him to buy. If after a week or so I thought he wasn't interested, I would have removed the sign because I too think they are ugly. Him not buying it after a week would have told me he wasn't interested and that would have been perfectly fine too. If it was a noob mistake, I'm sorry. It was my way of communicating with him. I don't particularly like to talk to people in private about such matters if I don't have to. If he wanted to talk, he could have.

Phil, I'm sorry. I am still new to the forums a bit. I pressed reply, forgetting that this forum replies to particular people depending on which reply button you click. My apologies for the confusion. Yes. I too recognized this person from that thread. However, I'm not taking into account his opinion on that thread as it has nothing to do with this topic. I could. But I'm not. I'm trying to give him or her a fair chance to speak their mind. Even if I don't agree right now, I'm happy to hear contrary opinions. Who knows. I may come around to his opinion later. That's how we learn.

I said I made a 3k profit... the land was 1024 and I bought it at 10k/sqm and sold it at 13k/sqm. Okay. You think I took advantage of someone for selling at a price they were willing to pay. They didn't have to pay it. No one forced them. If they didn't pay it, I could have posted at whatever price floated my boat and risked it sitting there forever. I priced it at a price I felt we both might benefit from. I could have priced it a crazy price. I wouldn't have got the money and he would not have got the land.

I'm not sure you have closely looked at the before and after photos. SL is a game consisting of an economy. There is absolutely no reason I should be bound to sell my land at the same price or a loss when there is a HUGE market of people buying and selling land at a profit. My alternative was to sell at a loss or break even IF he and only he would have bought it at the devalued price. I think I mentioned I used two premium accounts to acquire this land. After the stipend, I pay around an extra $12 or so a year (per account). Please explain to me how in a game built on buying and selling, I did something wrong by taking the opportunity to recoup some of the rl money I spent for the accounts. I looked at the situation and figured he MIGHT want something I have. He has something I want. I didn't double or triple the price to extort him. He MISSED the price I got. I didn't do anything extreme in my opinion. So I took the opportunity to recoup a small portion of my premium price IF and only IF he agreed that that was something worth it to him. Sorry, I agree with a lot of what has been said here, but this is not something I agree with at all. Maybe I'm being blind or maybe this is just one more noob mistake.

Thank you for sharing all of your thoughts. I do appreciate them. I understand that you believed my lot was a blight to HIS land. I'd like to point out that the whole reason I created this thread was because I was concerned about this and after listening to everyone's suggestions, I took everything down and put the land up for sale (at what I bought it with no irritating sign). A day later, he changed everything in such a way that my land was no longer desirable and I would be forced to lower the price less than what I bought it for. The whole point of my irritation is that I was so concerned about him, someone I do not know, enough to make a post, listen to advice, ultimately tear down everything I made (yes. I made noob mistakes. Guess what? I'm new.) and sell the property I had previously been so excited about. Edit: I revise this. I looked back on my comments. It looks like I did put it up for a small profit. But to make something else clear, another glimpse of how new I am, I thought I bought this at a good price (the title said abandoned), but it really was not so great after further looking at sales. It was worth it to me because of the view. I bought it for 10L/sqm and origionally listed it at 11L/sqm. He bought it for L$13/SQM but I do think this was a bargain for him. Since it's kind of a corner lot now that he completely owns. Mine was the last puzzle piece.

Should I have both characters set to donate 512, since that is what the premium allowance is?

I sold a piece of property today that was deeded to a group owned by me. I want to buy new land, but it is saying I own land when I do not. Can anyone clear this up for me? Is there simply a delay between the client and my account? Also, why does it say my tier is $8 a month when I combined two premium accounts into a group to buy land?    

I fully admit how I went about it wasn't the most elegant. But I knew if he wanted it bad enough, he'd buy it. And of he didnt, eventually I would have lowered the price. But because of him, I would have lost money if I put it up for the general public

Well it was a game of wait and see who bends first. Lucky me woke up to a nice profit in my balance (L$3,000!). He finally gave in and bought the property at my inflated price.

Well, your new laptop seems to be an upgrade, so I would expect improvement from the game. Test it out. Hopefully you have some sort of return policy if it doesn't work out for you. Expandable RAM? EXPAND IT. Okay, maybe that's just me, lol. If I could expand it, I would. But honestly, just give the game a try. I mean, it's not like you have to wait for a six hour download.

I just went through this phase as well. I can make money playing video games? Heck yeah! Then I did the math. You'd have to own a ton of islands to start seeing real money. With one island, even if you kept it full, I think you can't expect more than $50 profit a month, if that even. And that's far less than minimal wage but you'd have to constantly be dealing with people, advertising, etc. It's just not worth it. The game will cease to be fun and become a job. A job that pays crap. Now if you really wanted to make money, im sure you could do it but from what I read you need hundreds of customers, not a handful to start seeing meaningful money. You need to have a website, invest in advertising, do referrals, get your name out there. A ton of work. As a wise woman once said, "Ain't nobody got time for that!"

If you need any help, you can contact me in game as well. I'm also of the mind of "Mute and move on." Many of you already knew what this thread would be about before opening it up.

I should add, you will need to know what ports your monitor uses and make sure the new graphics card also has those ports. Do you have a computer friend who can take a look at your parts and give you suggestions on what to upgrade? Because at least for me, I rarely upgrade one part at a time. I usually buy a high end product that may be pricy but will last me for years. And at the same time I check upgrades for other things like CPU, motherboard, RAM, hardrives, etc.

Can you tell us what graphics card you have? Unless you bought a really good graphics card, 4.5 years is pretty dated and SL is pretty intense. Don't be intimidated by the process of changing out a graphics card. Tutorials are all over Youtube and seriously, you just unplug your current graphics card and plug a new one in. Just snap it in place. There will probably be a couple clips holding it in place, but I promise it is very easy. Just remember to touch something metal (like your tower) before touching the inside of your computer parts. (transfer of electricity) I'd check Amazon for a graphics card with good reviews in your price range.

All fair points indeed.

Hmm my post disappered, so I will repost. While I wouldn't say it's curteous to bring breedables to a crowded area, my complexity is well under 80k with the largest size KittyCat. 

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