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the point is who named her and what was the motivation for the name. like why that name?? and not another which you conflating with the fact that she does have a name that you keep arguing about it dont add anything. I think you arguing with yourself really ps am not sure why you arguing about the timeline either. Robin Linden said what i said it was Linden World as a proof of concept. Then they got the money. Then they redesigned for a avatar in the alpha which they made after they got the loot. avatars which LW as a concept never had. Then they renamed it, the alpha, to SL and then went to beta

on my profile I have "am afk a lot so if i dont answer then sorry ok" works pretty good like i get hardly any random IMs now. has been since forever now. when/if i ever do then I mostly just ignore it. bc i am afk and i already said sorry about that (:

Kwakkelde Kwak wrote: Your suggestion can't be right either since there has never been a second life alpha. There was Linden World, which had the primatar, I'm not sure if Ruth was introduced before the world left alpha stage. There was of course a beta you actual wrong Mr I Got Nothing Except Well Nothing q; (: Linden World was a proof of concept to see if would actual work kinda sorta and then if it did to get some serious VC money after the labbies got it to work kinda sorta then they got some serious VC money then they went to alpha. Was in the alpha that Ruth was born. bc primitar before that in the concept then when the labbies got it to a point where was worthwhile they went to beta and then they decide to call it SL then they invite people to join the beta and then it went live + ps in absence of Some Linden who can actual remember then I am go with Medhues thoughts. for the inspiration of the name am also credit Eggy for the name bc he only thinks he remembers Steller saying this. Way way back when they were both on the actual beta. When he had the chat with Steller about it. Who told him on the beta world that Ruth was the godmother of the alpha world, now manifest as a virtual body in the beta world. The virtual keeper and guardian of all virtual things Eggy doesnt say he actual remembers the convo. He just thinks he remembers. He actual remembers tho turning back into a girl and going waaahh! I am sooooo ruthed (: he did say this. Eggy did. way way way way way back in the ancient forums. Like before there was a wiki even and when the forums was the wiki and everything else. and Philip Linden was the new resident helpy helperton in them ancient times so there !!! q; (: (:

as I said before. before there was a wiki even. You know. that fountain of all knowing thingys apparently. The one that residents keep typing stuff into. But before then. Like way way way waaaaay before then Eggy Lippmann said that Steller Sunshine said that she was called Ruth on the SL alpha world so the question remains. Who decided on Ruth as a name and why. Some Linden seems like, maybe but why??? that name ?!?. is the question looking for a answer. Not your answer which is still looking for a question q; (:

Kwakkelde Kwak wrote: Anyway, according to the wiki, Ruth was the code name for the default avatar, so it wasn't the residents who gave her the name. i think the thing is what is the origin of the name. Like why did she get called Ruth by whoever named her first

is defo most likely I think am pretty sure that getting ruthed, like getting wasted or being wasted, came bc of Ruthie Alcaide it could be a mashup as well "And Ruth said, Intreat me not to leave thee, or to return from following after thee: for whither thou goest, I will go; and where thou lodgest, I will lodge: thy people shall be my people, and thy God my God. Pass the tequila ok" (:

portals are a gamer thing. Like the ones at the Linden Portal Park that go to the Linden Realms crystal game am pretty sure that Sansar is going to be like that. There will be most likely be Landmarks teleport as well I think. But portals will be the thing I think for the Gamer Experiences that LL hope that people will create i am personal hoping that if they do do portals then LL will allow the time in the portal to be adjustable. From insta teleport timelike it is now in SL, to for example: if fly a spacecraft into a portal then the portal could be set to 5 or 10 mins, or even an hour. And then if can create effects for while the craft is in the portal then will be quite good altho can expect that if this effect was available then some people will addy it to pieces. LL even, for basic accounts maybe + also as well i listen to what Danger Linden said at the SLB10. He said that basic accounts (assume meaning free signups) will have some "land" to build and rez stuff on quite a few of the bloggers since interpret that to mean that basic accounts will get free land i dont think this is correct. I think what was meant was that there will be public sandboxes for this. Same as in SL now so I think that if people want own land then they will have to buy or rent, same as now eta: public sandbox in the sense that anything rezzed will be auto-returned after some time. It might be private tho. Private meaning that can go into sandbox mode when unpacking/rezzing stuff + the zillion dollar question I think for everyone, is whats the minimum allocation to buy off LL direct. And the next zillion dollar questions are: 1) can the allocation itself be parcelled and can they be sold or rented 2) can the allocation be set next to another allocation with seamless border crossing and not have to go thru a portal me and some others tried to get Ebbe Linden to give some clues on this in the Ask The CEO but nah! he never said anything + i think that bc of what Ebbe hasnt said (but have by not saying) is that land as a resale product to other residents is going to be basically worthless the "spaces" thingy that they seem to be going for is land printing on demand rentals will probably be ok tho if the "spaces" can be parcelled

Medhue Simoni wrote: Long live Ruth! The real question tho, if you are a true SL historian, is where did the Ruth name come from? lol Eggy Lippmann remembers way back in 2003 that Steller Sunshine said that Ruth was the god mother of the SL alpha world

jejjeje (: you still a dog. Dont ever change ok and wb as well (: we lost lots of characters over these last few years. SL is pretty much homesteaded to pieces these days. I mean is ok bc is lots of people who like it how it is now. but yeah! really i kinda miss just hanging out and playing football at Lime, on the patch next to Plum with the Limeys and the Frenchies and all them other crews who used to be round in them days. Which sometimes erupted into like total orbit city sometimes lol when somebody got their baw on. Not all the time, hardly not ever. But when it did jejejejeje (: + ps i saw that your frenemy Stroker came back as well (:

Medhue Simoni wrote: The avatar is so central to everything. agree the avatar is the central and whole point of a virtual world basically if building a world then dont do it like God did in the Bible + like God made the world and he was pleased and then he went hmm! is incomplete is my awesome. I know!!! I will make me a little guy who looks like me so he did. A stumpy wonky little guy who didnt fit in the awesome world. So he made sex for him so he can be happy in his stumpy little wonky godlet body. I mean a lady for him and he made a garden for the little guy and his girlfriend lady but not in the awesome world that he had made. A garden in a private island then the little guy and the lady got wasted on apple juice and done the nawti and God got miffed and chucked them out the garden into the world that wasnt made for them. I think God got miffed when he went: Adam wherefore art thou my faithful little crawler who knows that I am like totally ever everything of your reason for exist ?!?? and Adam muted him bc he was doing the nawti and he dont got any time for any pervy cammer so miffed was God and out they went. The little guy and his gf. In their stumpy wonky little bodys and they done it hard in the awesome world not made for them for ever more ever after bc God said to the little guy and lady that he cant change the world just to suit their stumply little arms or anything really. bc if he change them then they will break his awesome world, and they just do the nawti in it anyways. So there !! + so now there is a new God to rule over us all so far is 2 and 0 first there was Bible God. Who apparently is a Western God. For 1 and 0 and then there was Philip God. Who is a Eastern God. For 2 and 0 now there is Ebbe God. Who is a Northern God. Like a Viking Can the Viking God of the North defeat the Gods of the West and East ?? will the Northern God make the man and the lady first, and then make Valhalla. Or the other way round and be defeated for 3 and 0 (:

Prokofy Neva wrote: The impulse of Pixeleen at the Herald was spleen and jealousy that the Lindens made an effective and viable virtual world that people flocked to, based on different principles, while his world was barely functional and remained only a failed "proof of concept". i agree the thing he helped make was Croquet. They started out as a comercial endeavour always seemed to me that Mr Cahill griefed SL bc Philip Rosedale got the market that Croquet never. Croquet and SL pretty much started at the same time conceptually. LL got the VC money and Croquet never and came second. Croquet went opensource in about 2006 and came second again behind Opensim

Jumpman Lane wrote: (JUMPY, went to Duke afterall, The Harvard of the South). Well you lie down with dogs you come up with fleas. you are way to modest. like way way you a way bigger dog than they ever were. with monsta fleas all over you. They liked it. them fleas did q; (:

just about the paper the problem with that approach is that is reliant on trusted clients. That the user wont haxxor the client to gain advantage SL used to work that way as descibed in the paper but then they had to change it to untrusted client. bc people stripping other avatars (so server-side baking came). LSL byte code being compiled by the viewer (anyone need a grief). Pinching stuff by exploiting client-side perms. Free classified advert for like 1,000,000L anyone?? stuff like this + the idea of distributed working is the right idea, so they the authors got that part ok. Just that it needs to happen on the server side, to maintain integrity basically if look at SL (i just do simplified for this explanation) there is a sim server which manages the scene there are multiple realworld clients (viewers) connected to the server so bottleneck which the paper identifies + a way to do it trusted is there is a server which manages the scene. Scene manager there are multiple virtual clients (sims) connected to the scene manager. The (sims) are running server side. The scene manager treats them as players.clients bc thats what they are. These sims are "playing" the game as far as the scene manager is concerned. These sims are trusted (bc sandboxed serverside) therefore they can do stuff which a untrusted non-sandboxed client cant do the user (untrusted client/viewer) connects to its own (and only its own sim). The users sim can reject or accept what it is that I the untrusted user wants or tells it to do. The scene manager never has to worry about this. It always gets good data, or none at all to communicate with another "player" the scene manager doesnt manage this (like a current SL sim simplified does). It only has to manage the scene - the stuff not attached to avatars or being communicated between each other. The sims (players) communicate with each other peer to peer. Each sim then communicating with its own user client + if LL are doing it this way (or something simliar) then the user client viewers can easy be tablets or phones even. as well as full on desktop computers

Ebbe Linden wrote: Bobbie Faulds wrote: Here's what I know from my housemate that's done some scripting for one of the Alpha testers. LSL won't be used at all...currently all the designing for stuff is usins Maya, a rather expensive program that produces a different kind of map than Blender, which most people use. There won't be land, per se, not like the SL model anyway. You'll pay a yearly fee for a domain and host your land yourself. Since the new platform won't be sharing the inventory server with SL, the stuff you have isn't going to trasfer over. As long as SL continues to be a viable, money-producing platform, there are no plans to close it down. With the model the way it is for the new platform, it won't be for casual users like SL is. There are no Alpha users now. Yearly fee for a domain? You must be confusing us with HiFi. We're not doing that. Since I don't think you know the model of this new platform I don't think you can assume it won't be for casual users over time. But you're right that we have no plans to close SL down. phew! thats good to hear. I was getting worried (:

Bobbie Faulds wrote: Here's what I know from my housemate that's done some scripting for one of the Alpha testers. LSL won't be used at all...currently all the designing for stuff is usins Maya, a rather expensive program that produces a different kind of map than Blender, which most people use. There won't be land, per se, not like the SL model anyway. You'll pay a yearly fee for a domain and host your land yourself [...] With the model the way it is for the new platform, it won't be for casual users like SL is. if so then I am not seeing what is the benefits which I cant get anywhere else like I already got a private grid which me and my friends play on. I have the source codes for the server and the viewer which I can mod and make with is nothing like SL anymore my grid. I have it so that when a avatar logs in then they have a whole sim to themself (their homesim), in terms of the server resources available to them and bc each avatar can move off their home sim (Aurora style) then can go for zillions of kms in any direction, flying, walking, or on a vehicle. And also can go onto the next sim or any sim that can travel to. Except that the avatar scripts, attachments, and vehicles are served up by their home sim and not the sim they are currenlty on meaning also that the avatars dont go to another sim (SL style) the avatar is the sim. It never needs to be handed off to another server basically what this means is that I can have nearly 3000 avatars in one place without any server lag at all. The only lag is draw lag (on my GTX660) bc all the textures and models needed to render. I can easy render about 450 avatars tho on my 660GTX, each with own outfits and meshes all this for free i also got a Unity for free to play with as well which is pretty powerful as well so am not sure why LL would think I might pay for some world enabling toolset which I already have unless the Sansar toolset is massively more capable + the only potential I can see in this scenario for the creators/builders of Sansar is: "buy a domain, use this toolset, and build some stuff/models externally, and they will come". They meaning zillion of RL people with money, happy to buy these domain Sansar Experiences if so then they are going to have to be pretty compelling these Experiences. More compelling than the games put out currently by the game houses and indies + basically from what your housemate is indicating means to me that LL are building a game engine with L$ transaction capability if so it is going to have to be pretty way more advanced than anything ever available now. Which from what I have read/hear so far isnt the case. The advanced toolsets will come, maybe one day, hopefully that there is L$ transaction capability is the only thing Sansar has going for it, in this case seems like the transaction capability being the inducement for developers and content creators. Is a big bet this. A huge bet actual + i dont mean to diss on LL but if thats all Sansar is: game engine with transactions, then yeah! really eta; meaning also

Qie Niangao wrote: It seems that a customer in Sansarworld will be able to parcel-out the land for which they'll pay the Lab, and sub-let those parcels to their own customers, sort of like Estates operate in SL. My question is about those larger units from which parcels may be carved: Do those lands supplied directly to the Lab's customers have any spatial relationship to each other? That is, would it be meaningful to plot them on a map grid? Or do they pop into existence without reference to any global coordinate system, making them easy to grow and shrink and poof without affecting any possible neighbors, and never needing to move because they're never specifically positioned anywhere at all? that ^^ i want to know the answer to this as well please

Devlinwolf wrote: How is the Flag Racial ???? Because the KKK an the Skinheads Fly it ???? How is the Flag about Slavery ???? Let me take this time to give you a lil History Lesson . The First American President Owned Slaves ,2nd there was NO confederate Battle Flag on the Ships that brought them Over to Our Country , Thats right it was the Federal Flag ( Old Glory ) ,3rd When did the Confederate Battle Flag Come Live and whisper in that mans Ear to Go kill Black people ? When did the Confederate Battle Flag Come Alive an pull the Trigger of ANY WEAPON ? You Wanna Ban a Heritage Cuz you are Offended , Then DONT move to the Southern States . The Confederate Battle Flag is not Rasist , it has NOTHING to do with Black or White ? Not like you people are Trying to make it out to be ! The Confederate Battle Flag is about Heritage Not Hate . If the Confederate Flag is Hate then I Guess the American Flag needs to be Ban as Well right alone with Every other Flag .! For every other Flag in the World was Flying when they went to war an Killed Didnt kinds of Ppl . For Example , the American Flag has Killed , Germans, Jews ,Japanese , Africans , English . So Think to yourselves Really the Flag is Racist cuz the KKK an the Skin Heads Fly it . It Really Sounds like all those that are fighting to get the Confederate Flag Ban Needs to Learn Really what that Flag mean an Nedds to relearn their History . An for those of you that want to Judge me Cuz i wrote this an I fly the Confederate Flag Well you can Stick it where the Sun Doesnt Shine . Because it will be a COLD DAY IN HELL BEFORE YOU GET EITHER ONE OF MY FLAG ! Bastards u mad bro q; (:

the gacha machine is not a game of chance the gacha machine is not a game of skill the gacha is a product vending machine you pay the purchase price and the vendor gives you the product advertised that the product you get is labelled "rare" or "common" is a marketing description/mechanic of the advertising you get what is advertised when you pay the vendor + the mechanic of "guess the number" to get a "rare" prize makes it a game of hazard (by the RL legislation in most jurisdictions) a game of hazard is a game that combines skill and chance games that require chance only to win a prize are banned in SL games that require both skill and chance to win (a hazard) are banned in SL games that require skill only are allowed in SL on a skill game region which is not what your plan for your device is + basically by adding in the "guess the number" mechanic changes the gacha product vendor into a hazard game

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go to the shops mostly click the MMs, sit the chairs, follow the shop group chats which leads me to more click the MMs and sit the chairs, and if anything looks ok then I might buy it sometimes i do other things but they come and go in phases, but go the shops I have always done and is what I like the most i am also pretty ruthless with my inventory, same my RL closet as well i try keep my inventory about 5000 incl. library. So I bin quite a lot of stuff that I even buy. Like I buy a kemono recently and buy heaps of stuff for it and then I went nah! and binned it. lol. about nearly 3000L down the plug hole. Same mesh clothes normals, skins, shoes, etc. nah! down the plug hole then I go maann!! i got nothing to wear even. sad face. So I have to go to the shops agaaaiin! (:

Cube Republic wrote: Also I'd love to see something like an interactive changing window, so clothing can be tried on in real time, much like the avatar customisation GUIs in other softwares. For example, one could scroll through tops, trousers, shoes etc. Mechants could follow a naming convention and supply small thumbnail images to populate the interface. i vote for this

mostly bc clear cache is the option that fixes most things more than any other altho option 2 could be just relog by itself and then clear cache and relog could be option 4 and a half + and also I really wonder why people have names even. Like Alwin for example q; (:

then you left with trying all the usual options option 1: menu: Me \ Movement \ Stop Animating Me option 2: clear cache and relog option 3: remove all attachments and then option 1 and/or 2 option 4: menu: Advanced \ Avatar \ Character Tests \ Test Male or Test Female (will do a full reset on avatar to the default avatar) option 5: full uninstall and clean reinstall of viewer option 6: there is a scripted object on the sim somewhere which you gave animation permissions to. You have to find it and sit/touch it again and hope that the permissions will be revoked. Or if is your own object then can delete it from the inworld and Option 1

some suggestions if making a apartment building then dont do multi-level where a apartment level shares the same parcel ground space as a apartment on other levels not for 2L a prim anyways people who do rent shared parcel-level apartments (or skyboxes) expect to pay way less than this. Like 1L a prim or less. bc of the non-privacy. Is a zillion landlords who provide this service already + for 2L a prim then design each "room" in the apartment building so that its the only "room" on the parcel no matter what level it is at parcel the land under the room into 12m x 12m or about. Then set the invisibility of the parcel so that cant see/hear the other parcels extra benefit is that each apartment can have own land/parcel media + furnished or unfurnished i would think about providing both. Have a rezzer that can provide pre-set furnishings. The furnishings can count against the parcel. Or the tenant can choose to rez None furnishings. And they can then use all the parcel LI as they like the walls, doors, ceiling, window, floor prims not counting. The building being root anchored onto the main parcel

ever since LL changed to raycast picking (and camera view/pan interest lists) then what you see happening in high content (meaning lag) areas is pretty normal these days i get this all the time mouse single-clicks turn into double-clicks. Right-click menu turns into Detach. Pick and Wear a item turns into pick something else completely and wear. No attachments sometimes after teleport and sim crossings. Munted mesh clothes after camera panning, requiring a Edit to fix. Pointing off into space. Particle pointers keep streaming way after you stopped pointing. And so on and on and on (: LL been trying to squash all these bugs. Is some more fixes coming in the next Maintenance viewer. Dunno how long it will take to fix all, but they are getting there + so basically nobody else (like another person ingame) is doing anything to you. At least on what you are seeing