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I'm sorry to hear that. Have you tried sandboxes? There you can meet some active players which you don't need to worry about them taking up your friend list space because they hardly log on. Why not help out newbies? Maybe go to one of the helping areas to try to ease a newcomer into SL and get them as interested (or more) as you are. You'll be doing a good deed and meeting new people at the same time! If you have the time, you can try a part time job. You can go to your job and see the same people every couple days or so while eventually getting to know them. Plus, a few lindens on the side doesn't hurt. Just try to do something you enjoy rather than just focusing on money. Also, if people don't seem to be chatty at a crowded event, chances are they're IMing each other. I mean, if everyone were to start chatting at the same time, the chat log and screen would be a mess of text. Hopefully this helps!

Correct me if I'm wrong, but for Nvidia cards, the way you find out how powerful the GPU is, is through the three digits (obviously) after the card name. For example, if the numbers are 760 after the card name, the first digit (7) is the model type, the second (6) is the power (so the higher the better) and the third one I have no clue. Sorry. If it helps, I have a 760 and it runs great. However, you can still have the best specs but, it means nothing if your internet connection isn't stable and might as well run SL on a computer from the 90's. Before getting my desktop, I used my old laptop which had a semi-decent GPU (525) and other specs which ran all my other games fine. Unfortunately, when I played SL, it was a hit or miss. Somedays I could get away with 15-25 FPS and other days I didn't even try because it was just too laggy. Wired connection>wireless connection

They don't have the star: https://marketplace.secondlife.com/p/High-Tops-Mesh-Shoes/5775642 The store also sells low tops. I have the low tops and they're awesome! You can realy customize it in a variety of different ways.

I don't think people's enthusiasm/carelessness should give them problems later on = I don't think people who act before they think deserve to face consequences. Um...

"Error opening file for writing: C:/Program Files (x86)\SecondLifeViewer\win_crash_logger.exe Click Abort to stop the installation, Retry to try again, or Ignore to skip this file" If I click "retry", the same message pops up so all I can do is ignore/abort. After all that, I can open the viewer and the opening screen shows with a message shaving there was an error with installation but when I go in-world, nothing seems wrong. This has been going on for a couple of months and I've tried reinstalling the viewer a few times but nothing. How do I fix this problem? Thank you!

It seems much more efficient, straightforward, and honest to post a thread in the forums like a "Help Wanted" ad (don't spam it), to get what you're looking for and if you have straightforward questions rather than observing behavior. So, why do users dislike seeing them so much? I agree with the idea of "putting something on your profile that you're a student looking for information" but I do think that would turn others away much more than posting in the forums. People who across that person who's giving the survey will see that's all or most what he/she is looking for and feel like they're being used instead of actually having a real connection or would be left wondering if they take it that personal. Other than that, is there THAT many threads relating to surveys that they take up whole pages of forums to make users detest them so much? If not, ignore it and if so make a section dedicated to it since it's not really spam

Better tolerance with wireless internet. Not every home relies on a wired connection and many use their laptops.

Sorry you feel that way. The reason why you won't receive the solid answers you want all the time in these forums is because we aren't the lab, we're regular users like you. Sure, you'll get negative feedback but you can get some great tips and advice as well. I would suggest posting your future questions in the answer section of the forums if they aren't theoretical or your question contains a subject users may have better knowledge of.

The new platform doesn't even have a name yet. I'm much more interested about what that'll be instead first.

Here's a similar thread on this subject where you can find a few more. http://community.secondlife.com/t5/General-Discussion-Forum/Life-2-0-Question/m-p/2389949#M145132

I can take in that fact just fine and better yet, it doesn't directly involve me since I have the privilege of exploring both M and A rated land. However, just because it's not my problem doesn't mean I cannot discuss it. Tari Landar wrote: the interest for teens is simply NOT there, not to the extent you, and others, seem to suggest. I have a hard time believing anyone actually thinks this, or has any sort of interaction with teens on a regular basis, to be honest, lol. I do (and before anyone thinks that creepy..just stop, not everyone in the world is a perv). Most teens are NOT interested in places like sl. Places to interact socially with others, yes, including online. Sl, absolutely not. The interest is just not there. The learning curve is rather steep, and anything teens(or anyone) would want to do as far as social interaction, already exists, in all sorts of places. Yes some teens have some, limited, interest in sl. But it is rarely long lasting, and is most definitely NOT on the minds of the majority of teens. Well, everyone needs a reason to be interested. I'm pretty sure not everyone signs up and makes an SL account because they're lonely or want to see pornography. Most see the creative builds in SL, what you can do, and become curious. Same goes for kids. If they see a new video game or movie and see something they find interesting, naturally, they look into it. Kids pick something up and drop it because of that certain thing not having that lasting appeal and same goes for adults, there's no difference wether or not it involves SL. You need a reason to want to come back. For the learning curve, dumb it down. Don't change it, but explain it in a way that people can easily pick up. Most kids already know how to move characters in other games with a mouse and keyboard and if they can surf the web, I don't see them really having that much trouble with the search engine. The rest comes with the time they take to understand the viewer and the grid. Practice, practice, practice. Tari Landar wrote: So, I suppose I could ask one question, and maybe it would better help me to understand this position people seem to have. What exactly is it about sl that people seem to believe teens find intriguing that they do not get elsewhere? I ask that, not to be a smartass, but to understand. I gave my input on that. Tari Landar wrote: The closing of the teen grid, if nothing else, was a perfect example of the lack of interest. I would understand where you're coming from if the thread's topic was on bringing back the teen grid. SInce this is just about your feelings on letting teens that are at least 13 into the grid, I don't think that statement is fair to say. Also, disregarding the topic, what about the teens SL has now? Why not make a seperate destination guide that showcases all the events and locations that are G rated and can let teens from 16-17 years old into vs the one destination guide the adult users have? Would that remove the hassle of clicking each location and just finding out you're too young to enter that parcel?

Syo Emerald wrote: But how do you want to add something to the pile? Just throw it in the "Things people can do in their freetime" pile, that's it. Syo Emerald wrote: You say the events and locations on moderate sims are what teenagers would want, because there is not enough equal activity on general sims happening. No, I didn't. I said that the equality SL gives it's teens should be reworked. How does this sound?: "Welcome to SL, teen. We will now drop you off at a tutorial area where you can learn the basics of navigating your avatar." "Congratulations! You have completed the tutorial and may now choose from one of the locations showcased in the destination guide." *click* "The area you have chosen isn't permitted due to your age" (scrolls over to another event/location) *click* "The area you have chosen isn't permitted due to your age" "Here's a location that you find absolutly no interest and, better yet, is abandoned due to the fact that many others aren't interested in this area, either." "Enjoy your second life!" I'm not saying teens want to go to moderate areas because of inequality compared to the G sims. If they sign up and see they can't go to the many places that can be seen as interesting, that's fine, but they have to face this problem, repeatedlly. They would see no reason to stay. It's not so much of "Let teens in M places" but more, let them at least have as much equality or places to go as the people who can enjoy M or A sims.

Syo Emerald wrote: Where should the patience and motivation to deal with the viewer and everything else come from? Simple, if you want something, go get it yourself. I'm pretty sure most kids around that age firgure that already (though it depends on their experiences and upbringing, really). There are many teens that age who can actually play/log into MMORPG's, games, and other sites which involve them to sit down, take their time, and actually figure out how things work. Same can be done with SL, it's not impossible. Syo Emerald wrote: In addition I don't know how many 13 year olds own a game pc or laptop, many of them seem to be more interested in smartphones and tablets. I got into computergames when I was a child because my father was playing and when I turned 15, I brought my own PC that could handle online games, but I wouldn't see that as the norm. Many, who are into games and such, are actually into both phones/tablets and computers. BTW, let's not forget gaming consoles. Also, your story on how you bought your own PC at that age and how you got into them isn't so out of the norm, it's actually VERY common. Syo Emerald wrote: My personal viewpoint on G rated sims is, that they are restricting me in my freedom, are boring and run by not very sympathic people. I'm pretty sure your not the only one with this viewpoint. Why even have the G rated sims if they are, in fact, this way or more importantly, why not make them better not just for the teens in SL, but for everyone else?

Tari Landar wrote: JPG0809 wrote: Pushing anything on anybody is almost always wrong. However, this isn't about advertising or preaching SL to younger teens, this is more on how to welcome them if THEY'RE interested. Yes, there are many sources of entertainment and SL can be one of them as well. But they already have options if they're interested in sl. They don't need more. There's nothing wrong with adding more to the pile, is there? That's because, as we said before, no one really NEEDS SL but it's just there and it's just another source of entertainment. It doesn't have to be their ONLY source of entertainment.

Tari Landar wrote: JPG0809 wrote: then what is there to do other than leave or just settle with what you got and wait a couple of years? It just seems unwelcoming to the younger users who want to give SL a genuine chance. What is there to do? Go live life. I think that can be applied to the "leave" option. I agree with you 100% that not only kids but people in general don't need SL to enjoy life (unless there's maybe a situation involving addiction or something like that). Bottom line, I understand. Some may think that technology in general takes away a child's well, childhood, today. I think it can be their lives/childhood or it can just be a part of it and depending on how much the child uses the technology makes up on how big that part actually is. It doesn't keep a child or anyone else from living life if you have a balance and it can be that way, you can have the best of both worlds. Tari Landar wrote: Why would you want to push children, yes they are children, towards a virtual world and away from the real one? There are countless things they can use for entertainment purposes, including social places. Sl just doesn't need to be one of them. Pushing anything on anybody is almost always wrong. However, this isn't about advertising or preaching SL to younger teens, this is more on how to welcome them if THEY'RE interested. Yes, there are many sources of entertainment and SL can be one of them as well.

Syo Emerald wrote: I don't get how you come to your idea, that Second Life would be appealing for teenagers from the age of 13. Well, there are many virtual worlds and (mostly chatroom-type) sites that have their target users being younger to mid-teens. Of course, some would argue that SL has way more features than say, IMVU or Habbo Hotel. That still doesn't change the fact that, at their main core, they all have that feature of allowing the user to socialize with others. What's more, SL has that feature AND another list of options which can entice new users who are already familar or looking for virtual worlds and think they'll be getting into something better because of what SL offers which is more detail. Syo Emerald wrote: Its requirements (technical and mental) aren't very customer orientated and definitly not aimed at someone who is 13 today. I think that just has to do with practice, really. I think the average SL user: Navigates around the grid (In which I'm meaning both with the keyboard controls and SL's search engine), Attends events Chats Buy/spends lindens Fiddles with their avatar's appearance. The hardest is probably adjusting the avatar's appearance IMO. You need to try on different clothes, may or may not adjust the positioning of the clothes in the edit menu,learning the features of the edit menu, understand mesh clothing and what alpha layers are, but that's all just practice with a few clicks and moving arrows. Same goes with navigating through the viewer. Syo Emerald wrote: So you have a more or less stable userbase, which contains mostly adults....and your other ideas aim directly at destroying that stable userbase. You don't seem to have put much tought into this. Example needed? Seperating A land also means cutting off M rated land, because its also not intented to be vitited by minors, you would basically cut of a huge active part of Second Life and create a new Teengrid. That's because the examples I gave weren't fully realized, they were just thoughts on the top of my head. It wasn't my intention to seem like was saying, "I FOUND OUR SOLUTION!" *throws confetti*. I'm sorry if I made myself seem that way. You're right, maybe some of the suggestions I gave would have fudged up the grid immensly. However, I wouldn't want to destory the userbase, but work around it if I could. I honestly don't have a solid answer which is why I'm making this thread and see what other's think. The main question(s) is/are: What are your feelings on letting younger users (at least 13) on the grid? How would you go about doing this or how do you believe this should be handled? Syo Emerald wrote: For myself, I can assure you, I wouldn't want to spend much time on G rated land. I always wondered if LL could maybe change how they go about rating certain sims on what could be considered G, M and A. Maybe the criteria could be reworked so that what's allowed in a G rated would be different than what it is today. What makes me want this change is that even today, if you're at least 16, you can go to G rated areas but, if you find an area that seems interesting to you but it's M rated, you can't go in there and that's fine since there's a reason for it, minors should not excess that type of content. However, most of the events/sims showcased in the destination guide and search engine are Moderate and Adult rated sims (mostly M, though) and it greatly outweighs the amount of G rated sims. So, if the user can't even get into the sims he/she find's interesting and is just given what seems to be mere table-scraps compared to what's offered to people that are at least adults, then what is there to do other than leave or just settle with what you got and wait a couple of years? It just seems unwelcoming to the younger users who want to give SL a genuine chance.

By "younger" I mean at least 13 years old. I feel if LL were to lift that rule of only letting adults (people at least 18 years old) then the grid's population would increase since I believe there's a a bigger appeal for teens to explore virtual worlds like SL. Now, I'm not saying adults don't use VWs, we have around 50k users in SL on average (Also, If anyone knows, could you please tell me what was the average amount of people were on the teen grid throughout the years when it was up and running?) Then there's the question of adult content SL offers. Should SL censor it, seperate it from the rest of the grid and just create a type of red-light district and allow a larger amount of G-rated-type sims so there's more of an appeal and openness to the young user (Which I believe they did, but I was thinking more of an entire seperate grid like the teen grid but dedicated to Adult content so then you'll actually would have to be looking for that type of content), should the younger users be able to mix with the adult users like an MMO, or do you have your own input on how things should be carried out? Thank you!

I love this guy's videos!

I take your "meeps" and raise you a "Sup!Sup!\(^ o ^)/"

Like the the colors, cache input, etc.? Thanks!

As long as you don't judge the person or make accusations of what they're doing is wrong, it should be fine. However, you didn't need to be blunt by saying you were creeped out. Say no thank you and let that be that. You made your statement that you don't want to the talk to the person , gave your reason(s) why but you didn't outright call that person a horrible being or a weirdo for their choices.You said the SITUATION was creepy, not the person. A lot of people tend to have this type of argument but aimed more at certain lifestyles and the major basis of what matters to them is the question of what is right and what is wrong. It seems nobody can truly make that type of decision because it all depends on the preference of the person. I don't believe there's a solid answer. When everyone worries about right and wrong, no one considers if they should just tolerate it and move on. For your question on SL users RPing as Children, I feel the same way and they should be free to do so as they please.

Any style in particular? My home is filled with mostly old-fashioned furniture and a mismatch of other stuff. If you're interested in that stuff, Old World and DDD is good. A lot of people offered some good suggestions as well like Trompe and LAQ. Have fun shopping!

I don't know wether SL is a game or not but, I do know that people need to stop having hissy-fits when people substitute the word "virtual world" with "game" for convenience. It's pointless. It doesn't make SL any better or worse, it's just whining over a label. Some people may see real-life as a game of goals and rewards. It all depends on the person.

-Fitting clothes: From what it sounds like, I think your describing the older method of trying clothes. Before mesh. -Camera control: opinion -Glitching: I think that has mostly to do with the builder of item and not SL itself but idk. -Wooden movement: Have you purchased an AO yet? Good luck!

Ain't it the cutest thing? :matte-motes-wink-tongue: