Malanya

TDD123 wrote: Awe Thor wrote: Have you not been told that it is inadvisable to post real-life photos of yourself, Willy? That's ok. Already have my mugshot ready as well. Awe Thor wrote Awe . . . someone might recognise you and turn you in to the cops. Is that like being recognized by the moderators here for posting as an alt of a main that is banned from these forums ? Who'd make that the bigger clown of all of us ? :smileysurprised:

I asked because I seen an ad in the forum for a dj job and there was a list for all the things the dj needed to have. I honestly have no clue about dj's and what their cost entails. I am sure as you say many do things that aren't ethical as far as their streams and such. I was always under the impression it was a big expense, but that was just passing conversation so nothing to validate it. I don't know what SAM is or Virtual DJ. Don't they still have to talk on mic, say when they are playing a request (yes I find it annoying when they yap through songs) and I don't like the local chat thank you for the tip either, I appreciate when the dj actually gives you a ty. I didnt' know a dj had to rent out space either. You would think that a dj or host would like direct tipping lol

I thought so.

Aren't dj's expected to provide all their own stuff, and streams, don't they cost?

Christin73 wrote: I host and have for a while. Doesnt matter what genra. The job of a host/ess I see is this. A good host or hostess is there to suport the DJ. That means when people come in you welcome them. In your welcome every once in a while let them know who the DJ is. Promote requests and tipping of the DJ as well as Dancers if there are dancers. When I host I am active in local chat. I am constantly/ every 10 minates promoting either Tipping the DJ or letting people know they take requests. A good host is an active host. Just my expierience. Don't hosts and dj's usually have big a$$ signs to show all of us that can read who they are? That's what I have always seen. A good host doesn't annoy the crap out of people and by having her head up the dj's butt and begging for money is not a person with any creativity with the ability to entertain anyone. The dj has a separate job. I also agree with Amethyst about dancers being no addition to a club that isn't a strip club. When II see dancers at on a poseball (or sans poseball) with a tip jar in front of them I laugh, oh I laugh, such talent to tip. Nah, not in a million years.

Czari Zenovka wrote: Madelaine McMasters wrote: Czari Zenovka wrote: Bronxcheer wrote: Czari Zenovka wrote: herself into a hole I have no earthly idea what you are talking about. That would make two of you ;-) LOL! Based on the recent join date and totally blank profile, I assume Bronx is an alt of someone with some grudge against me, or a friend of someone with a grudge against me....or... I have my own personal forum troll!!! WOOT!!!!! Nooooo... not in this forum .. lmao

No I got that Czari, I was referring to the "what happens in the forums stays in the forums" meaning if you have an issue with someone a reply or a PM is what I meant by first saying that phrase. That was separate from how I feel about people contacting me in world. I was told I was making humor and that I needed a dictionary so I figured I should respond to that poster as such I am not saying anything wrong with making friends on the forum, I have many times, I just prefer it to start here and move in world, that's all. I think everyone should be respected for their personal choice (not directing that at any of your posts) and also I recall a post that someone said others can't be a mind reader, that's true, but I guess I see it as when I see many posters putting in their post "feel free to contact me in world re: whatever" that's telling people it's ok. This was not directed towards you either lol I just forgot to mention that in my illiterate humorous post

Alicia Sautereau wrote: Christin73 wrote: I host and have for a while. Doesnt matter what genra. The job of a host/ess I see is this. A good host or hostess is there to suport the DJ. That means when people come in you welcome them. In your welcome every once in a while let them know who the DJ is. Promote requests and tipping of the DJ as well as Dancers if there are dancers. When I host I am active in local chat. I am constantly/ every 10 minates promoting either Tipping the DJ or letting people know they take requests. A good host is an active host. Just my expierience. Hosts don`t work for the DJ, hosts don`t work for the club and it`s about time that they start to realize it as half of them are the reason why good clubs die, they work for the people. Not the club owner(s) nor DJ`s force me to leave, but the hosts! When a host starts spamming gestures, they encurrage visitor to do the same on wich they start to be even more agressive with the spam to remain ontop, sod off with the spam and i do not go to a place to see how many people i can block for a couple of hours in 10 minutes That is the part where, if i like the dj playing, leave and take the media stream url home as in my opinion this is borderline begging for tips (see my first post) and the reason when i tip, it`s usually higher then the rest of the room does, at your expense. On the note why it`s more fun when the owner hosts, simple, they care, hosts just want a tip for god knows what... sorry, your cut goes to the dj instead of your gesture spamming fund to buy more... I think i`m done for awhile yeah, what you said, I don't want to type that much. Hosts are to work for the patrons and any host that begs for tips every ten minutes has no clue how to work a crowd.

Amethyst Jetaime wrote: Gadget Portal wrote: Bingo. That's why I stopped. I've got the equipment, the software, and I do it in RL. Then I get treated like no mic WinAmp users, or people on 10 dollar Walmart mics using a stolen copy of SAM, and it's annoying. I wouldn't even mind working just for tips, because I enjoy the reactions of people listening. But when your club can't even bring people in and I have to spam my own group, so I'm not getting paid AND I don't have new listeners... Where's the incentive? Exactly. My partner is a RL DJ and he does a set once in a while for grins at a club that appreciates it. Most club owners don't do much to bring people in to the club themselves They don't pay you but expect you to spam not only your group but everyone you know to get people there (which most people hate), they expect you to put your own money up for contests, and then ,many of them want to take a percentage of what tips you do make, like they are the ones doing you the favor. I won't tip hosts. I have not come across one who isn't gesturbating the crap out of my screen and begging for tips. I find that so tacky and will actually mute the host. If I like the dj I will surely tip and I usually go to clubs where the dj's I enjoy are at, doesn't necessarily mean I like the club at all. I believe many people follow the dj's they enjoy and that's what brings people to many clubs. You are right a lot of clubs act like they are doing the dj a favor.

Aethelwine wrote: Awe Thor wrote: Aethelwine wrote: Dresden Ceriano wrote: Gadget Portal wrote: Wow, did this whole thing escalate out of control. It sure did, but it's been great. I just love threads where people talk about some interaction they had with a crazy person, only to have that crazy person come along and try to prove how crazy they're not... making themselves look that much more crazy. ...Dres Schadenfreude is not a healthy pleasure to be boasting about. What sort of nonsense is that? I can't see that you mean physically healthy, so you must be disparaging Dresden's mental health, in which case perhaps you would like to reference the relevant element of the DSM (either 4 or 5 would do) that supports your contention, since one narrow-minded person's opinion is all that it is. I entirely agree with Dresden; the Forums are a wonderful place to see morons demonstrate their idiocy, to see masochists complain about how badly they have been beaten up, to see naive serial romantics whinge about the ephemeral nature of their partners' affections, and especially to see those, like you, who would like to believe in the the underlying humanity of humanity, but are confronted here by the greater mass of humanity who enjoy nothing more than to hear the plaintive adult versions of the immature "It's not fair!". I note that - entirely appropriately it appears - you even have "whine" as part of your name. Awe . . . suggests you start a thread called "Healthy Pleasures" and see what responses that get s you. Are you intending to inject some humour in to the debate by making me laugh at your apparent lack of basic comprehension skills and bizarre logic? Well no laughs from me I am afraid i feel sorry for you and your delicate sensibilities... Awe Diddums... Maybe you should ask your mummy for help with understanding what has been said before sharing. Sorry Aethelwine, I thought you replied to me, I apologize. I am on my phone and it appeared as it scrolled you posted to me. Very sorry.

Suspiria Finucane wrote: Malanya wrote: Suspiria Finucane wrote: Gadget Portal wrote: But how crazy are people that they have to actually take the time to look someone up in-world, and go on a rant in IMs over a forum post? Actually, it's not crazy at all according to the community guidelines... Interpersonal Disputes or Personal Negative Commentary: If you have a personal disagreement, do not post about it on the Second Life community pages. Residents who have personal differences have other channels of communication available to them — private messaging in the forums, IM within Second Life, or chatting within Second Life. Then again, some people never read the CG or TOS. I have read the TOS and CS and completely understand it. Interpersonal Disputes, covers Residents that are acquainted with each other as well as Residents who have had an encounter, an Issue with a merchant I could go on and on. Community Pages = Feeds too. I am sure you know how much "drama" and mud slinging can happened between people that were friends, partners, etc. If you had a disagreement with your landlord, YES IM in world, or a friend you have a dispute with or a merchant. WHY is there a PM option in the forum? It is for just that, if you have a personal dispute PM them, not stalk them in world or,as many do, use the community pages, the feeds to harass people. You are arguing semantics dependent on which dictionary a person uses. It clearly shows 3 options to resolve issues. It's a personal preference as to which one for which type. I said that community pages are not just limited to the forum. I am not going to type the different forms of contact showing with the examples I used as you can see I have already done that it. There is a PM option and the ability to block a PM from a user in the forum. I don't think there many different reasons for those options being available here. It makes sense. Everyone reads text differently, I believe that's been well known to mankind for thousands of years. The method of which a person chooses I have already answered in another post of being personal choice. It seems odd that are repeating what I have already answered, have you not read the whole thread? p.s. I am not arguing. Having an opinion is not an argument, I believe it's a discussion. edit- in regards to you quoting my phrase to Czari, I make friends with people while in the forum and then take it in world. It's my personal preference. We all have our own choices here in sl and just because someones belief does not go along with anothers clearly doesn't make either wrong = personal choice.

oh I knew what you meant nothing wrong with making a perfect model shape for sure.

Czari Zenovka wrote: Malanya wrote: Czari Zenovka wrote: Malanya wrote: Just like they say... what happens in the forums .. should stay in the forums.. Exactly! Years ago number of SL forumites from "the old forums" created an inworld group called "The Forum Cartel" - that included both the group as well as an inworld hangout of sorts (open to all) that still exists. The cardinal rule was that any "forum fights" or people who didn't get along on the forums had to drop it at the Cartel inworld. It was interesting to see fierce "forum foes" having a pleasant chat at the Cartel location. I do remember that Czari from when I was here in sl before this avi. Many people were in that group, wonder if they still are. That was a great idea and I am sure it had success because both agreed to go there. I wonder if people that don't get along on here go there That saying I said reminded me of the commercials "what happens in Vegas, should stay in Vegas" lol I keep meaning to drop by the Cartel. (Now you have me wondering who your former AV was. *Grins*) A friend told me that some of the old regulars still go there - even those who now post on "the other" forum. And now a "Blast From the Past" - My former partner and I dancing at the Forum Cartel in 2007. WOW!!! My look has sure changed!!!! Haha.. I may never tell. I do recall clearly some of the "issues" with certain posters but didn't know it grew to a larger group when I came back. I had to leave for rl reasons with an ill family member and lack of time. I came back when that situation changed. I couldn't remember a certain detail of my old account to be able to sign in though I will say LL was very patient and did try and help me recover the account. Sometimes a blast from the past brings back a whole slew of fun memories

so true! mesh pants do make such a difference.

Shungiku wrote: Just so everyone is aware... The ideal proportion is 1.2 to 1.4 i.e..., on a female " if you are under 72 inches or 6.0 feet" the legs are 1.4 times the size of the torso. - Anything taller than that and the rules go out the window. I modeled mine using those proportions and the effect is pretty dramatic. I get compliments all the time about how realistic my shape appears. The most common.... " you look like movie star" Oh, and the little gap you have there... it will practically vanish if you remember the hip to breast/shoulder ratio. Viva le shorter avi's! That's a great solution if you are RP'ing a model here, etc. I have a rl friend who is 6'3" not everyone is short. Some people look as their avi as an extension of themselves and that's what I do, when I am in sl I am me, My avi is based on the proportions of my rl self. Some people have a short waist with longer legs, some have a long waist with shorter legs. All people are not built the same, so I guess it would depend on what you do in sl and how you choose to look. Do you want to be someone totally different than yourself or do you use sl as a social virtual world and you try and be the same as in rl. I do see many that make their avi taller and they don't adjust the length of the arms. There are people that like to accentuate certain areas of their body and never change any of the other sliders as well. Personal taste is what it is.

bebejee wrote: I'm having some issues with my shapes too, if I make temporary changes to them they tend to become permanent despite not saving the new alterations, previously when I logged off the shape would automatically revert to its original measurements so when I got back on it was back to the original look that I had saved, but this is not happening any longer and the shape remains in the altered look, one example is that a slender model-eque shape that I played with and made shourt, fat and busty has remained in this state, yes i have copy of the original but still. Even if you don't do "save as" at bottom of window or "save" with the arrow shape button at the top, the changes will save over previous. I always make a copy of my original shape (now that mesh is here) and save the shape as the name of the outfit so I don't have to adjust anything when I wear a certain outfit and my original shape stays the same when I wear prim/system clothing. My avi is tall so I had a gap not the same as Vanessa's or as high up but the lengthening of my torso to leg length ratio helped with that.

Czari Zenovka wrote: Malanya wrote: Just like they say... what happens in the forums .. should stay in the forums.. Exactly! Years ago number of SL forumites from "the old forums" created an inworld group called "The Forum Cartel" - that included both the group as well as an inworld hangout of sorts (open to all) that still exists. The cardinal rule was that any "forum fights" or people who didn't get along on the forums had to drop it at the Cartel inworld. It was interesting to see fierce "forum foes" having a pleasant chat at the Cartel location. I do remember that Czari from when I was here in sl before this avi. Many people were in that group, wonder if they still are. That was a great idea and I am sure it had success because both agreed to go there. I wonder if people that don't get along on here go there That saying I said reminded me of the commercials "what happens in Vegas, should stay in Vegas" lol

Good to know and glad her problem is resolved

Here is a picture that may help you understand what I am referring to. I was wearing a pair of mesh jeans, so I removed the alpha so you could see how each body part slider is affected when you adjust the sliders. If you are wearing system clothing it will show you as well. the arrows are for the leg muscle and hip width sliders as I am not sure how big the pic will look when it's posted. Having pants on while you do this will show where the shape is being affected by the numbers by sinking into or popping out of the clothing. It's just to show you how the leg muscles or hip width may be giving you the problem. Hope this helps.

Tex Monday wrote: Malanya wrote Actually Ren, I would not like to be contacted by anyone on the forum for a complaint or compliment unless we have became friends. It's not the whining so much as the way of contact when there are measures to privately IM someone here in the forum. I am a private person in world and wouldn't like the forum to spill over there unless I said "please feel free to contact me in world" for such and such reason. I have only contacted someone from the forums inworld once...and that was to compliment her on her excellent post. We carried on a short conversation and that was it. She seemed ok with it. I would also be ok, I think, if someone contacted me to express an opinion on something I did. I think that if I didn't like it, I would respectfully tell them so and then stop talking. That's just me though...I don't think I would contact someone to tell them that I didn't like what was said here. ..although, thre are people who are on my sh*t list....:matte-motes-sunglasses-3: I wonder .... the blocking another user option is for on the forums..... when you find it, Malanya, please tell me how to do it....PLEASE!!! :matte-motes-sunglasses-3: It's just my personal preference but what's right for one isn't right for another The block button is for PM's under the poster's profile where you send a PM..... my oops for sounding like it was a block poster button! lol

Vanessa Hallison wrote: I've tried messing with every setting possibly, including how thick my legs are. I can't seem to make my legs thicker without making the rest of my body thicker as well.. Also, it's definitely not the angle that the picture was taken at. It's like that no matter what angle you look at it from. You are right, I doubt it's the angle of the picture, at first the 2 seemed to make me feel that way. I am not sure why your leg muscle slider is affecting your whole body. Are you wearing pants while you are in edit shape, as this will show you which part of the body in a picture that the slider is affecting.

I had this happen once when a merchant changed their name and dissolved the group to form a new one. If you do as Trinity and Rolig suggests maybe you will find out what happened. In my case when the group dissolved to form a new one, the group owner only added people back who replied to her and there was no charge, she chose to clean up and have the new group with active members only.

Fennal Ferryhill wrote: To you it seems we got personal and your greatly upset enough to keep posting. I want to say the right thing to you. But I don't want to seem like I'm giving up on my true feelings. A man posted a reply to me. I found it out of context. I choose to contact. Seems many think that was crossing the line and made me a stalker. I didn't feel as that is what I was doing. I only wish to understand his remark and approached him ready to listen. But I gathered right off he wasn't any different in private than he was in my public post. I wanted to find something to like about the guy. Sure, to some I was being overly sensitive. Sometimes we get that way in life. We fall down, we are human. In all the years I've been on SL, I have only used the post maybe twice before. I had no knowledge of what PM was. And yes I admit I hadn't read the TOS rules. But most can't say they have. That aside does not mean I'm ignorant. I just never had much need for the forums. Not until I felt excitement about the recent changes and wished to voice them. I was feeling happy at an unhappy time. (lost my mother to cancer..grief big time..only to find out I might have the same) I know that is no excuse. But when life hands you lemons you can tend to be overly sensitive at given times in life. I try to be a good person. IF God takes me home, I hope to make some difference in life. I've always showed love and kindness to others unless attacked. Most of us have a defend mode. It's human. I may sound like a preacher. But I want to believe people are generally still decent. I'm ashamed it got this far. I've been told I write books. I am a writer after all. LOL Not necessarily a bad thing. I'm not sorry I seeked justice. But I'm sorry to you if my hurt made me turn ugly as well. I see in defending myself it sparked an all out emotional war. I heard each of you and thanks for the advice. Next time, I'm going to remember to do what I've done so many times before anyhow...ignore the rude ones and go about my business. I allowed my personal stress to mix with the reply. For you, I'm sorry for the devil referral. I was in defense mode. I'm sure your a likable nice gal. Peace be with you and we are cool with it. I am not upset at all. I was posting my opinion and nothing more. I replied to you again after I said I would not (I did not want to keep going back and forth) but not to keep going on and on. You don't have to give up your feelings, just realize that others may not feel the same way as you and we all can agree to disagree. I am sorry you had a rough time and yes it can make people overly sensitive. Unless I really feel I have something to say, I will ignore posts or replies that I find rude but I don't take it personally. None of us are perfect and we are all guilty at one time or another of putting personal feelings in a post. Move past this and enjoy your time here.

Vanessa Hallison wrote: Do you see that weird gap in between my butt cheeks? Yah, I have no idea how that happened. I have literaly tried every single option available on the shape editor, and absolutely nothing works. It's been like that for months and months and I can't figure out how to make it go away. Is it a glitch? Do I have to completely make a new shape? Please help. It could be the angle that you are standing. In the picture it looks like your leg muscle is set at a lower setting in ratio with your hips? It's hard to tell. I would copy down the numbers of your hip, butt and leg sliders that you have now, and then play around with those while editing your shape and see if that helps. Your hips don't look real wide, they look fine, so it may be your leg muscle slider. I am not in world to see if there is another slider that affects this. I will try when I am in world and post back to you unless someone else posts with a more informative answer.

Ren Toxx wrote: Malanya wrote: @ Ren, why should someone be followed in world aand whine about a forum post? If someone did that to me I would mute that person right after I saw their IM was a complaint. PM if you have an issue and heck yes there is a difference between the forums and in world I am sure most people don't want to be harassed by a sore butt forum poster they don't know. Malanya, it seems to me that what would really bother you (as would many others, including me, of course) is the 'whining' thing... not that it's done through a forum PM or an in-world IM. Ask yourself this: if someone IM'd you in-world complimenting one of your forum posts, saying that it's well thought, reasoned, informative, nice or whatever... would you take umbrage at it just because the person chose to tell you so in-world? To be honest, I really don't understand why such a big deal is being made over the choice of medium; I would think that the really sad part is that the issue between Gadget and Fennal has escalated beyond a mere civil disagreement and into a multi-user exchange of heavy accusations, thinly (if at all) veiled insults and whatnot. Actually Ren, I would not like to be contacted by anyone on the forum for a complaint or compliment unless we have became friends. It's not the whining so much as the way of contact when there are measures to privately IM someone here in the forum. I am a private person in world and wouldn't like the forum to spill over there unless I said "please feel free to contact me in world" for such and such reason. Everyone has their own view and personal choice and that's fine, but when someone else's choice is in conflict with someones likes and dislikes it should be respected. I don't feel anyone's beliefs should be pushed on others and I am not saying that people who don't mind the in world contact are wrong. It's personal choice. I don't feel that Gadget had ill intent when this thread was posted, it was a discussion and he didn't give many details, was just straight o the point. Someone else brought all the drama to the table because of their belief not being parallel with others.