TOS and private messages

[Gala Caproni]

Can someone show me where in the TOS it says you can't copy IM's you have from one avatar to someone else?  I must be going blind, because I can't find it, and I thought for sure it was in there..... somewhere....

And if your offlines go to your email, are they still considered private?

[Ansariel Hiller]

Its in the Community Standards, Paragraph 4, Disclosure: "Remotely monitoring conversations, posting conversation logs, or sharing conversation logs without consent are all prohibited in Second Life and on the Second Life Forums."

[Unklebob Hotaling]

"And if your offlines go to your email, are they still considered private?"

Like the expression 'what happens in mexico stays in mexico" LL only has say over what happens inworld or an any LL platform such as this... anything that happens outside of Secondlife isn't their concern.  Say you IMed me inworld and i posted that on the SL forum, I'd be breaking the ToS... say you IMed me inworld and I posted that on Twitter, I'd be on safe ground - the only proviso is I'm not allowed to disclose anything about you past what you already have on your inworld 1st life profile.

[Ansariel Hiller]

Interesting question: Since the CS only mention Second Life and the Second Life Forums, what's up with XStreetSL then? Does it count to Second Life or the Second Life Forums?

[Unklebob Hotaling]

XStreet is owned by LL - so same rules apply.

[Gala Caproni]

BUT.... the community standards are not a section of the TOS, yes they are in the policies and guidelines, but not part of the TOS, correct?

[Ansariel Hiller]

I don't think it's that easy. Although LL now owns XStreetSL, they have a different TOS. So the question is

• a) does the SL CS apply here and
• b) the SL CS only mentions Second Life and Second Life Forums, but not XStreetSL

[Ansariel Hiller]

Yes and no. They are not directly part of the TOS, but when you accept the TOS, you accept to agree to the Community Standards. See Paragraph 4.1 of the TOS.

[Unklebob Hotaling]

The ToS governs your liability with LL the company, the Community Standards a seperate governace regardling specifically inworld issues.

[Gala Caproni]

Thanks everyone to the quick responses and accurate information

[Ansariel Hiller]

You're welcome!

[Unklebob Hotaling]

I cheated, i copied off Ansariel.      

[Gala Caproni]

Just trying to arbitrarily up your posting numbers and hoping for points?

[Unklebob Hotaling]

/me groans at hearing someone mention points as if they mean anything.

Indeed, cause add up all my points, throw in a nickle and I can get gum.

[Temporal Mitra]

where the hell can you get gum for a nickle?

[Gala Caproni]

I think you are dreaming big if you even think you can get gum!

[Velma Paine]

umm....where can you buy gum for a nickle nowadays? Last time I checked...it was at least 25 cents

[Unklebob Hotaling]

I shop at a discount secondhand store.

[Jessika Rang]

ABC (Already Been Chewed) gum?!?!?!  Ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww!

I drunk you are thinker than i thought!

[Unklebob Hotaling]

"I drunk you are thinker than i thought!"

lmao!   take 4pts out of petty cash for having a sense of humour 

[Jessika Rang]

CHHHHHAAAAACHING!!!

on my way to my first stick of gum!

[Unklebob Hotaling]

I'd contribute but...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v336/unklebobosaurus/BLOGavatars/HTMLFORFOOD.jpg

...all my money is currently tied up in poverty.

[Irene Muni]

Unklebob.Hotaling escribió:

 

"And if your offlines go to your email, are they still considered private?"

Like the expression 'what happens in mexico stays in mexico" LL only has say over what happens inworld or an any LL platform such as this... anything that happens outside of Secondlife isn't their concern.  Say you IMed me inworld and i posted that on the SL forum, I'd be breaking the ToS... say you IMed me inworld and I posted that on Twitter, I'd be on safe ground - the only proviso is I'm not allowed to disclose anything about you past what you already have on your inworld 1st life profile.

Mmm... I'm not sure, but for me this is a difficult legal question. See TOS 4.1. and specially 4.1.(i) and 4.1.(iii) - "...invasive of another's privacy...".

[Hanz Avon]

Haha..    Let me get some of your points.

[Unklebob Hotaling]

Well there was talk about getting rid of the point scheme but that went no-where (so far)... I'm pretty much indifferent cause I'm just here for the free donuts and open buffet myself... i see I'm now an 'expert' (me, an expert?  lol that makes me laugh) and I hope to get demigod status eventually so the titles are cool - that said i'd be 'coatcheck boi' for all the difference it makes.  I've thought before I'd like to give away my points and would if I could... why not. Another thought would be cash in some points for a fancy smancy title as opposed to those LL gives i'd be a gamer - if I could be something other than Expert i'd be Tiger Woods probably.

[Nerxual Oh]

I wish the TOS also considered not copying the IMs on other sites.... This dumb@$$ emo guy gave everyone the look on his IM between him and my husband, on Fur Affinity. I told one of the admins of that site, he said "There is nothing in our TOS that prevents this. Sorry." That got me mad but I let it go. Nothing I can do. I even AR'd him to lindens, nothing. His account is alive as long this idiot don't go suicide on his own.