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Scylla Rhiadra

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  1. Sure, fine. Go ahead, blame the OP. I actually didn't object to the discussion branching out to treat also ARs in-world. And there really isn't an appropriate term other than the very generic "report" for the forum. So there.
  2. Ahh. The notorious "They." Yes indeed. The Knight Templars are very active on social media these days.
  3. Ageism rears its ugly head again . . . 😏
  4. Don't imagine I am unaware of the irony!
  5. Welcome to the world of unregulated free market capitalism.
  6. In SL terms, maybe not. We're a very small pond in real terms. But Rosedale has gone on a fair bit elsewhere about "governance" in virtual worlds, and the implication has often been that SL has gotten it more or less "right." I think I'd beg to differ. The real dollar amount of scams and shady dealings in SL is, in a global sense, pretty small potatoes, but translate that into the terms of a really extensive metaverse, and we could be talking about many millions of dollars, a crisis of confidence in the system, and so forth. I don't think that some simple regulations would require that extra time and effort. How about an addition to the ToS that, for instance, no more than one week's worth of rent can be forfeited upon breaking of a land covenant or rental agreement? And maybe even a very simple web page with a database backend into which landlords would enter a few pertinent details upon seizing that one week's worth of rent? It need only include the date of termination of the "contract," the weekly rent charged, and the amount forfeited. No live staff need be involved at all unless there was an AR or ticket alleging the breaking of that portion of the ToS: the database would provide the information governance would need to almost immediately settle the issue.
  7. Yes, definitely. There are a number of separate issues that are being discussed here. 1) Does the landlord have the "right" (in practical terms, the absolute power) to do what they apparently did here? We're all in agreement that, yes, they do. 2) Does the tenant have any kind of recourse? Again, we're all in agreement here: almost certainly not, although they can try such things as ARs or tickets. 3) Was it ethical -- i.e., morally "right" to pocket L$19000 of pre-paid rent upon eviction? Well, I've seen a few people tentatively suggest that they think it is, but I find that position ethically indefensible myself. 4) Does the current system suck? Well, that's my position. It's a crappy, system that was broken from the moment they set it up, and it affords endless opportunities for graft and generally s****y behaviour. There's a sort of side issue, which is the implication that we don't have all the facts here, and with that I agree. We're not in any position to judge this particular, individual case. Which is, again, why there should be some sort of simple mechanism in place to do so.
  8. Fabian, do not do this. It's a clear violation of the ToS, and there's every chance you'll get disciplined for it.
  9. I'm far from convinced this would make a difference, as people get ripped off on the MP all the time, and very seldom have any sort of recourse. But it would at least produce a clearer paper trail.
  10. In pragmatic terms you are of course absolutely correct -- as I think nearly everyone has said here. What interests me are the broader implications of this. Whether or not the OP is telling the truth is, in that sense, truly irrelevant, as you suggest: this could happen, under the current system, just exactly as they are describing it. And I'll guarantee that it does happen. The system sucks.
  11. That is entirely possible. But I refuse to take as my default position the assumption that someone is lying, unless there is clear evidence -- and there is none here -- that they are doing so. Not even a Trump supporter. What a crappy way to go through life that would be. [Redacted, as the name of the estate has been removed, and this is no longer relevant.]
  12. This. The current system sucks. Consumers not only have no protections, they are denied even the kinds of tools that, at both a theoretical and practical level, are supposed to counterbalance the arbitrary and absolute power granted to sellers / landlords.
  13. Are you good with pocketing L$19000 in pre-paid rent as a penalty for violating the rental agreement or land covenant?
  14. Shocked as I am to find myself agreeing with Chaser, this is an important point. I'd say the "system is broken," but actually it's never worked as it should. I thought about mentioning to the OP the "name and shame" rule here near the beginning of this thread, but decided not to because the system as it currently stands is terribly unbalanced. The "free market" approach to this kind of dispute only works, even by the standards of those who support it (of which I am emphatically not one) if the power of the seller / landlord is balanced against the power of the consumer to let "word of mouth" govern the marketplace. The theory is that if "bad players" are bad enough frequently enough, they will go out of business as "word of mouth" gets around about their behaviour. But if you disable the ability to spread that word, then frankly you are robbing the consumer of the one lever they should have at their disposal. More to the point, you are creating a structural, systemic imbalance in the system that ensures that it cannot, and never will, function as it is supposed to. Now, I'm not of the opinion that anyone should be able to come here and simply name anyone they feel has done them wrong. That would turn this place into a chaotic hell hole. So . . . my conclusion is that we need some form of top-down regulation for this kind of thing.
  15. I asked this question also, above. We have nothing to go on but what we've been told. If the OP is lying, of course this is inapplicable. But we're now discussing the principles, function, and ethics of the system. And I'm not simply going to assume that the OP isn't being straight here. I'm honestly surprised to hear this from you. The landlord has the power to pocket whatever remains of the rent. In fact, given the lack of regulation in SL, the landlord could do that without even requiring a justification. But having the power or even "the right" to simply walk off with L$19000 (or L$1000, for that matter) does not equal having the moral justification to do so. If the landlord did this, it is horribly unethical behaviour.
  16. Yes, but to the tune of L$19000? The issue here is not the eviction, I think.
  17. If they told you that, they are frankly fibbing.
  18. I think that depends on context and the group. I send political notices out all the time -- mostly to overtly political groups, for sure, but other groups to which I belong also sometimes would be appropriate. Depending on the message. People send out invites to events about the invasion of Ukraine, or One Billion Rising, or RAINN -- all of which are in important senses political. I think you need to judge carefully.
  19. Linden Lab will only very rarely get involved with any dispute like this, including ones involving the MP. You can try an AR if a ticket didn't work, but I wouldn't hold your breath, especially given how much time has now passed. It's caveat emptor in SL, and there are almost no tools at the disposal of a consumer or renter. It's unfair, but I'm afraid you're out of luck.
  20. I'm sure you are, as often is the case, speaking tongue in cheek. But, while there are probably few people here who despise Trump more than I do, I don't think that sending out an invite to a parade in his honour is justification for confiscating that much rent -- assuming that that is all that happened.
  21. "Thoughts and prayers" = not caring. I don't think anyone is fooled by that formula anymore: we all know it's literally meaningless.
  22. Passing quietly over the "Trump boat parade" thing . . . I'm a bit confused as to the timeline here. This invitation was sent out last year? In 2021? But you have only just been evicted now? If so, they've taken their time about it. Or have you waited this long to consider doing something about it? Is all of the L$19000 free and clear, in the sense that none of it has appropriately gone for rent? It's all actual money owing to you for rental time that you won't be using? Ceka suggests contacting them, and that seems a wise first step, if you haven't already done so. If you have, did you get a response? Is it possible you've violated something in your rental agreement? Have you look at the Land Covenant to see if there is something there that might explain this? LL will generally not get involved in what it calls "resident disputes," so they're unlikely to help, but you could try to file a ticket or AR the landlord, being VERY specific and detailed about what you're claiming is owed, and why. For what it's worth, L$19000 is a fair chunk of money, and the actions of your landlord, if they are as you present them here, do seem unfair. And, assuming that there really is only the one thing you've done that might be said to constitute harassment, this does seem to me arbitrary and unfair. But honestly, unless you can prevail upon your landlord to return the Lindens, you're probably out of luck.
  23. Sure. Europe is literally on fire, but I get it. Compassion fatigue? Here's Salisbury Plain burning -- "England's green and pleasant land" had temperatures surpassing 40 C for the first time on the records. Portugal has recorded over 1000 heatwave-related deaths in the last week alone. This IS a "pressing real world day-to-day" thing. Now. For millions. I'm genuinely happy to hear that it isn't for you. Yet.
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