Seba Serpente
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5 minutes ago, Jaylinbridges said:
The covenant only says " *Activities and items that could be construed as commercial and for profit by Linden Lab are not permitted in the residential homes and houseboats in Bellisseria." A skybox at 3900 meters above ground is not a residential home or houseboat. Patch's argument for no commercial activity in and around homes is to maintain the residential character of the neighborhood, below 2000 meters. There are not LH homes or neighborhoods above 2000 meters. So no, the Covenant does not answer my question at all.
The whole parcel, at any height, is a Linden Home parcel; The parcel is the linden home. I am sure he does not only means the physical home you see on ground level. The 2000 meter restriction is just for placing skyboxes, so you dont have vissible boxes floating around if you are at ground level, hoever, the conduct and commercial/advertisement rules applies up there regardless. What also does not applies, cause it just doesnt makes sence, is the visual guidelines of keeping it looking tidy and in theme, since a floating box is already breaking that.
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2 minutes ago, Jaylinbridges said:
Muddy waters continuing, if the Covenant only applies to immediate homes and surroundings, what about a skybox at 3900 meters above one's parcel? A skybox that would have no visible signs anywhere on the land level or even on the outside of the skybox itself. And no TP pad to the skybox. The only way to access this LH private skybox would be from advertising outside of Bellisseria, say from a private website. Can this skybox be a low traffic shop, selling no copy paintings, for example. Traffic might be 1 person/day at best. The Covenant has nothing about skybox shops or businesses either. They in no way change the character of any neighborhood in Bellisseria.
Yes this is a tangent from the DJ tip jar issue. But if a DJ can plunk down a tip jar and make 10K $L in 2 hrs on public land, why are residents who actually live here banned from an invisible business in the sky on their own parcel?
The covenant applies to the whole parcel regardless of height.
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2 minutes ago, Fushichou Mfume said:
Indeed. The covenant is identical on every parcel and region in Bellisseria. Even the full water regions. Even the fairgrounds. Therefore.....
I mean really, do we need to split hairs and do rules-lawyering and call for a Linden to come in yet again and interpret what is a pretty clear set of guidelines already? Belli, in its entirety, is "Linden Covenant Land". We've heard Patch say this in the past. The non-commercial spirit of the covenant is clear and unambiguous. Asking for tips is clearly a commercial activity; it's literally asking for a profit in return for a service, which is clearly and unambiguously "of a commercial nature". The covenant is clearly and unambiguously against commercial activity of any sort. The convent is on every single region in Belli--even the "protected" regions. Therefore....I would take example on the SL16B guidelines for performers and exhibitors, I would guess that would be a more fitting guideline for a space like the Fairground, and the SLB is also a linden funded special use space.
Performers are the only ones allowed to collect tips or any form of payment at the SLB, and only diring their time. Commercial activity like sales or direct advertisement is also prohibited, however, advertisement for community groups is allowed.
Considering that the same people managing the SLB is also assigned to manage the Fairground, there is a good chance these same guidelines might be used. I would.
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9 minutes ago, Fushichou Mfume said:
Again, the answer lies within the pinned thread I quoted above. The following quote is also from that post by @Patch Linden. Bold emphasis mine. Key word is "neighborhood".
_______We think in spirit, the desire to maintain the community feel of the neighborhood and homes, that this small adjustment to the covenant will help to make things clear that these are homes, not stores or shops. We have other plans in place to satisfy requests for something like a yard sale, where you could feature Linden Homes add-ons in a communal area already in place, to come soon™.
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Is safe to say the covenant applies fully to homes and their inmediate surroundings. I have my doubts on other areas like public common spaces and large water areas. These areas are not homes, and on regular mainland areas with no homes on them, you don't find such restrictions.
Sadly, it does seems that the covenant has only been copy pasted on all regions regardless of the region actual purpose and use, and the covenant focuses on the residential aspect and the inmediate surroundings of the homes, certainly leaving some holes like the case of the fairground, and i would even extend it to regions that only have water, intended for traffic.
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I am awaiting for an official response as well here.
However, I beleive the covenant applies to the homes. An event venue is not a home but a special space for special use. Rules may not work the same way.
Very likely even the lindens in charge of this didnt had in mind these situations on the fairgrounds, so, there is probably not even an answer for this.
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Constantine Linden: "It's our belief that with a sense of community being a main goal of Linden Homes, ban lines send the wrong message."
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24 minutes ago, BryantCarson said:
Even with Auto-Fresh it still comes up with the old houses.
When so many people are doing the same thing, that tool is no longer any help. There is probably absolutely no chance if you are trying normally without using the auto-refresh, so I guess is atleast something.
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7 hours ago, Raspberry Crystal said:
@Aethelwine the moles / lindens do read the forum posts, and none of us knows what is in the pipeline. The present system is certainly stressful for so many.
What I don't understand is why they can't be more clear and open with people. Information is calmimg, regardless if is good or not. I am not aware of any heavy competition that prevents them from making plans public. If the info leads to large delays in the process, so be it. Honesty is much better than secrecy. Atleast people would understand better why they are waiting exactly.
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Just now, GinaFreumann said:
I know what you're referring to here, & you crossed a huge line. Its beyond ugly. This is what the "ignore" button is for. Done.
Let me help you there: https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=hotboxing
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5 minutes ago, Blaze Roecastle said:
Now why would they even consider banning a paying alt account? A paid account is a paid account.
not just that, also the fact an "Alt" doesnt really means anything. An account is an acount. An user can use any account at any time, doesnt make one account less legitimate than the other.
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There is a huge need for hotboxing one of the homes and put everyone inside, and not talking about hot air!
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7 minutes ago, LittleMe Jewell said:
Newbies coming here often assume that high rep points means the person actually knows a lot.
My experience so far is about who cracks the best jokes replying to pretty much any message that pops up.
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2 minutes ago, Tommy Linden said:
Let's try not to derail this thread too much, I really dont want to have to close it.
For what it's worth I am happy to pose for a picture any time anyone wants if they see me out and about. Even if it's in my Linden home, just walk on up and knock on the door!
Now let's make sure we are all being nice please, it's the weekend, it's time for fun.
@Tommy Linden congrats on your new home.
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Alright, is important for me to know that you understand that an avatar is not really you. It is a character you created, just like a sim on a Sims game, or your charager in GTA online. Your avatar is not entitled to any laws cause is not a human being. The privacy of an avatar cannot be violated, or any rights in that sence. However, you, as a person behind, are protected, but in other ways.. Your information is stolen, you are cyber bullied (tho you seem to be one already), among other things. But what you are mentioning is pretty much unreasonable.
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Never been close enough to a home in RL to right click the land on a house to get the owner information.
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1 minute ago, Beth Macbain said:
How else could that possibly be construed? You took a picture of someone inside their home without their knowledge and posted it on the internet.
That's wrong to do. Ever. No matter who it is.
And you were close enough to be on his land to pull up the parcel info. In RL that would get you arrested.
Of course, if that was an actual person, and depends on the context (trust me, I made a real career in photojurnalism). Let's not pretend an avatar is an actual living person.
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1 minute ago, Evangeline Ling said:
Thank God you guys give us the ability to hide view on our parcels...
And people wonder why we opt to use that option.
Carry on Tommy Linden I'm sorry your privacy was trampled on by creeper
There ya go, of course.
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Just now, Tommy Linden said:
Stumble, stalk, we all have our hobbies. I assure you what I was doing was not super interesting, just a little home decorating.
Next time anyone sees me out and about though, say hello, it's far more fun that way.
There, thats the thing. I saw a blue dot on map and took a look. Thats all there. If i do go to your new home, oh i am sure stalker won't be the only word flying around.
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1 minute ago, LittleMe Jewell said:
Quote him and respond if you want, however since even sneering laughter reactions increase his rep, I think everyone should stop doing any reactions at all to any of his posts.
I don't mind about reputation points. What difference does it makes apart of competing for who's the king of the forum? (Serious question)
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I swear I stumble upon random things without looking for them.
Go ahead Sylvia, lets hear another joke of yours.
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Just now, Sylvia Tamalyn said:
I had the group chat open and saw exactly what happened and who started it.
I would post the chat here, but I don't feel like trowing more gasoline on the fire. I don't understand why Abnor chose to continue the argument here after hours passed, but I am certainly not interested on continue it. That is all I will add on this matter.
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Just now, Sylvia Tamalyn said:
If you throw punches at the moles in public, as you did earlier today, it's a bit disingenuous to complain about getting a public response.
Beg to differ. I shared a picture earlier today, same picture as one avobe here in fact. Next I know I see a pretty big blue paragraph of abnor blowing steam directly at me.
This is actually quite common in Second Life as we all know, but sadly is not common to see it happening on such color of lettering.
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The Pirate DJ Treaty of Bellisseria
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Haven't seen anywhere anything that says that the neighborhood stops at a certain height. That's like saying half of a skyscrapper is no longer part of a city cause the upper floors are too high.