Liisa Runo

Copybots and people who posess botted items. Banlines Security systems that don't give enough time to read the dialog and leave the parcel. People who build everything full bright. Temp rezzers that re-rez stuff as temp to go over the prim quota and lag the sim. No-mod items. Messy parcels with no autoreturn. Neighbor's breedables that are physical and lag the sim. v2 SL drug policy. ... and giant pile of other bad decisions made by LL.

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Govenor Linden ofcourse. She is no one and everyone. Magical creature. [13:01] Governor Linden: Right now it looks like I have millions and millions of L$. i should go shopping

This is a good place to remind people about the updated advertising rules that apply also to the "land for sale" signs some people put to their lands. https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Linden_Lab_Official:About_ad_farms_and_network_advertisers The most commonly forgotten / ignored things: No more than one advertisement / region. (So if you have 5 parcels for sale in a region, you can have this sign only in one of them.) It must be grounded to the terrain, not floating. It must extend no higher than 8 m from the ground. It must contain no rotating or flashing content and no particles. It must be Phantom. Ban lines should be switched off.

What is this talk about viewers? I understood this is all server side. Or have i missed something?

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Kascha Matova wrote: Liisa Runo wrote: All that functionality can be made with 1 script/object. Really? Wow. I remember that used to be one of the top brands anywhere. I wouldn't have come up with them if I was making a list of designers who left something to be desired regarding efficiency and good design practice. I would have expected them to have evolved with the times, given the size of the crowds at the stores and the length of the group membership list. I guess you do learn something new every day. Which designers have taken up the mantle from them as far as prestige and quality? I have so much to rediscover in SL! Yup, it is true. No idea about what shoemakers are the best these days. Or ever were. My refusal to buy no-mod items effectively killed my shopping will long time ago. Way too many good looking shoes seem to be no-mod. I have a feeling the soemakers will update their products sooner or later. If not sooner, then that day when LL slam us with the script limits. Here is a story that is couple months old: I decided that it is time to find a pretty pair of new shoes. After some searching in marketplace i found a pair of shoes that were stunning. So i went to the shop in world. Found out that the shoes are no-mod. But since they were oh so pretty, i decided to IM the creator and ask if it would be possible to get modable or atleat a pair that dont have 400 resize scripts in them. After all, all ladies in SL have size 0 feet. We dont need resize scripts in our shoes. No reply to IM but the shoemaker was up in his skybox above the mall. Maybe he is AFK i thought, and patiently waited couple hours, admiring the picture of the pretty shoes. Then i saw he moved. So hes not AFK. Waited a good 30min. Then sent him IM: "i see your moving so your not AFK, could you ansfer my question please." And i got IM that he don't do customer support at weekends. So i waited till monday. Went back to the shop and sent him IM. No reply, so sent notecard. Offered a good 1000L$ extra for all the trouble of removing the scripts from the shoes. I got IM and he told me that it is not possible to get modable version but he will make a scriptless version and sell it to me. Today im still waiting those shoes.....

Kascha Matova wrote: My...my Moodys? You mean, alter them in some way? Or...or give up the lightning fast alteration capabilities they have? "Black! No, Red, with anklet! No no no 20% heel click. Until the next corner, then increase 5% per block with 60% max! Wait no, that guy's cute! What if he hates heel clicks?!?! Decrease to 5% at once!" No more of that? Nooooooooo! Please not my Moodys! :womansurprised: All that functionality can be made with 1 script/object.

Since the LSL way to detect the number of scripts was given to us, i have had lil gadget on one LL road to detect the script count and mem of people. Currently it show that the biggest ever script count on someone has been 764 scripts and average is 103 scripts. Biggest ever mem is 57.4MB and average is 3.7MB. (remember that the mem is a lie cause MONO scripts don't use all of that 64K) I always refused to buy anything made from no-mod prims. (exept couple items that were just too awesome primwork) So i don't heve problem with pile of resize scripts. Usually the scripted items i wear are AO HUD and multitool HUD. Together they use 12 scripts with 0.750MB of memory. Yesterday i traveled around a continent with 10m/sec speed and didnt have any trouble on border crossings.

Zanara Zenovka wrote: Oh also check the source spam object itself (just trace where all the particles are coming from) - sometimes i've found them set for sale for $0 and you can just buy and then delete. Should be very carefull with buying such objects. If it manage to replicate after the owner change and some of the copies of it escape and go pollute other places. Resulting you getting reported for griefing.

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Starting to sound good. Maybe some tuning to the times and prices. Sure makes sense to give priority to the people who have older parcels. Problem is that when we cut parcels the parcel dates get messed up. Hopefully somewhere in the databases there is real info about when the parcels were claimed. Edit: Yes, to same sim neighbors before looking to other sims. I have a feeling Deltango Vale meant that?

Im not very social person but i still like to be part of the big world with people in it. Mainland has history and historical locations. I love to be able to take a comfy bicycle ride from home to the big sandboxes or just set a boat or train to travel around slowly and look at people's builds. Border crossings seem to get better and better all the time. Nowdays when i travel from one end of the continent to the other, i get unsat from my vehicle about 0 to 2 times. Couple years ago i crashed on every third border crossing and often had to relog to get out of the limbo. Nowdays i buy only parcels that are expensive because of the pretty location. It only hurts once to buy the expensive parcel with some water on it. But after that it hurts less to pay the tier when i know i atleast have a good place. And land in expensive parts of mainland also seem to stay pretty. People usually dont buy expensive land with water if they only need to rez some ugly mall or something. There are still some problems in mainland, but i guess the worst problems will go away or atleast get more rare over time. Maybe some day the banline people move to islands to get the privacy they clearly love. Or maybe LL create zindra alike continent for the banline people and force them to move there or take down their banlines. Maybe some day LL invent a technical soution to prevent people from re-rezzing their builds as temp over and over again to go over their prim quota. Maybe some day we get technical solution to prevent some parcels getting full of random junk. Maybe some day people realise it is not polite to build eyesore stuff to ground level. Even with the current problems mainland have, i think it is still worth it. With some effort i can find nice places to live in. That one neighbor still seem to love laggy stuff like physical toys jumping around but i rather suffer from higher phys time than live in lifeless island with no access to other places.

I love maps too. Good luck with the project Will be happy to see it when finished. I think you should maybe include the old name of "sea of fables" which is "lost lakes". Yes it is clearly a lake and not a sea. I guess the person who came up with the new name didnt pay attention in school Edit: Now when i look closer i see you already have "lost lakes" there. But that area only have couple rivers. Hmm, now i dont know what to say. Maybe someone else have better knowledge/opinion about these areas. All i know that many places on the shores of the lake that is now called sea of fables, still have names made to match the old lost lakes name.

And in my opinion people should take responsibilty of their land to some level. Either by enabling autoreturn or manually cleaning the land. Unfortunately there is plenty of land owners who do neither. And their parcel become problem to everybody else in the area. Over and over again despite LL coming there once a week to clean the mess. LL dont have enough staff to babysit us fast enough, so some technical solution is needed. Together we must think of some techical solution that dont affect too many of us. Hopefully only affecting people who dont take care of their land while keeping the lands of friendly people untouched.

With e-mail the Jane Doe always stay the same. And it is usually the RL name of the person, the first given name. If it start to change often, it loose it's meaning and everyone start to only look at the e-mail address to know who the person really is. Same logic in SL. If we could only define display name once and then it would stay the same to the end of time, and if it would be unique and no one else would have that name, and if all old scripts and clients would show this name, then it might be the primary name to look at. But it never will be that, it is just another group tag that can change and we cant rely on it. Anyway, this all been discussed over and over. Im happy to finally see the real name on the web page. Or login name if you prefer to call it that. To me real name is less confusing. It is the real orginal name of that person, not some mess around string where people slam fancy characters that might be visible to others or might not.

Finally. Now if they could just change the order. I think real name should be written big and display name under it in small letters. Real name is the only thing that we want to see anyway. And display name is the irrelevent lil addition that might be usefull over someone's head in some RP but distracting in every other place.

Can you think of some better technical solution to the problem? Anyone?

Not only about maturity of the objects. The usual stuff i see is: copybotted noob sculpt that scream and spew particle blood to neighbouring parcels. Vehicles that are stuck on engine noise loop and spread particle smoke around. All kinds of griefer cube attacks with nazi flag textures or stuff like that. Copybotted items set for sale. Random noob freebie house partially on neighbouring parcels. Pyramid scheme objects.

Peewee Musytari wrote: Which mainland are you talking about, the parts owned by LL or privately owned by other residents? If you mean privately owned plots, then good luck getting that cleaned up. You can`t make rules for what other people do on their own land. Get Phoenix Viewer and derender it all...problem solved lol Im talking about both. LL is currently working on technology to make all the future abandoned lands automatically enable autoreturn, and rest of the LL parcels that lack autoreturn will slowly be fixed when people AR the mess in them. LL enable autoreturn when they come to clean the mess. Nope, i can't make rules about what people do with their lands, but i can create feature request to jira and maybe LL make rules that benefit everyone. Or atleast most of us. (not getting phoenix, i don't give my password and inventory access to residents)

My badge also hide my last name. Not intentional. Im wishing LL to give use better badge options soon. I have a feeling most of us would want option to have only text with one color, black or white, and no background forced to the text. Will tune the texture some day if it takes too long for LL to give us what most of us want.

Alright, thanks all. To solve the giant messy problem with technical changes i must think hard. How about a check in the server code: If land has nonGroup/nonOwner objects and no one with return ability to that land has visited the parcel for a month. The autoreturn get automagically set to 5min. What you guys think? Anyone have better solution?

I always allow everyone to rez objects on all my lands. That dont mean there should not be autoreturn. While i do want everyone to be able to rez, i dont want the objects of strangers to stay there forever. Autoreturn save me the trouble of cleaning the lands manually all the time. Is there reason for wanting objects of strangers to stay to the end of time?

One of the biggest problems in mainland: Lack of autoreturn / people to clean the parcels from random mess. Only reason i can think of for not having autoreturn is that when you are in the process of changing the ownership of land and want the objects to stay there while you are changing the group of the objects. Been in SL about 3 years and only had to do it once. And for almost region size land, it took about an hour. Been wondering why so many parcels dont have autoreturn enabled. If some of you know more reasons to not have autoreturn, please tell me, i really want to know.

Always wanted to ask: The cam controls are clearly meant for people who have only one hand. Why some people with 2 hands struggle with those cam controls? Why not use the keyboard+mouse method? Lot more comfy and practical. More precise, faster, can combine different styles on the fly.