Ayashe Ninetails

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I'm not disturbed by anything adult or mature generally, as long as it's legal, of course. It's the violence/gore that I typically have issues with. I'm extremely squeamish. Like, intensely squeamish. It's funny because I've been reading horror my entire life, so text doesn't bother me whatsoever. I've read some crazy ish. It's the visuals, though. I wouldn't be able to make it through the tamest R-rated movie if it had blood in it, in most cases. At least not without opening another tab and waiting for it to pass. So no, I wouldn't be too shocked by much if it wasn't violent. That's just something I've never been able to handle seeing. I do agree with you though, that old SL felt a lot more enjoyable than what we've got now. I'm not sure why, really. I adore the level of customization we have here now as a result of mesh, but something just hasn't clicked with me since I came back in 2020. Like, zero desire to be social in-world when I was entirely the opposite in the early days. Feeling more meh about it as things develop, too.

I remember teleporting to a sim once back when I actually enjoyed exploring the grid - can't remember exactly what it said or how it was described in the Search directory, but I landed and it looked like one of those ye olde towns. Totally deserted. Started wandering around. Saw some cauldrons scattered around with some very odd looking things inside. W...wha's that ... ok let's just not look in there. Kept wandering. Entered a building. Found a kitchen. Took me a few moments to realize this was a whole cannibal village. That's putting it mildly as @Scylla Rhiadra very much knows what I'm talking about here, but I do not want to get into that. I hauled my butt RIGHT out. If they allow that kind of violence on Mature, I'd be absolutely horrified. As for the video, I've finished watching it and all I can say is - bras on infants, seriously? We're really doing this?

Quick break from the video to respond to some thangs, but woooo, do I have thoughts: 100% agree, and if you were around wayyyy back in the day (maybe 2005-2010ish), you may remember just how absolutely NUTS some of that stuff could get. I would assume some is still around - probably just a bit more hidden these days. Thankfully, I haven't stumbled upon too much of that. *shudders at the thought of seeing it in MESH omg* I'll echo Scylla's statement. You were fantastic and I see you there struggling to keep chat at least somewhat tame and readable. 😂 Much appreciated!

Yep, though there are absolutely some rather lewd mod kits and accessories out there, but it's not difficult whatsoever to put together a very modest G-friendly furry look if that's what you're going for. Even easier since adults are made with all the major popular bodies and can wear whatever they want. Btw, still going through this video and...yikes. It's a lot.

I'm about to dig into the video now, but I'm already seeing people getting kind of...angsty, and they haven't even officially started yet. Fairies???? Those are adult unless you're doing some Tinkerbell reboot type of deal (aren't they born adults though?). What the...? I mean...teen, okay? But I dunno, man...Rosetta's a little sassypants who makes very similar jokes to Blanche from Golden Girls, so I'm not quite so sure they're that young... And no, extreme violence on Moderate sounds like bad ideas.

That's kind of hilarious, honestly. I mean, the thought of a furry running around in a speedo, anyway. In practice, that sounds like a nightmare. I don't even know what a younger furry looks like or how it's made, but I'd imagine their skins are already blanked out/PG. Hell, mine mostly are and they're sold as adult. I gotta use BOM layers if I want any detail on there (which I don't, thanks).

Thank you for this, LOL. I jumped the gun and didn't wait for a new thread. Whoops! Also, thank you @brodiac90 for the partial transcript.

Yep. Check brodiac's new thread - he's got the details on that.

Welcome! And now I feel silly, because there's a new thread JUST for that, lmao. I'm sorry.

Sure, sorry! I wasn't sure which thread to even toss it in, but if Chery doesn't mind, I'll just yeet it in here for now. Second Life: Governance User Group meeting (9 May 2024)

Oh that'd be much better. Thank you!

Pantera's video has been posted to YouTube already, if you want to take a look at it. The meeting wasn't in voice, though, soooooo...gotta read the screen.

Very welcome! Though now that I know you're going for a cow/human mix, the chest makes perfect sense. Ignore everything I said about that (and what I said about your face, too, honestly). It all works when taken in context. Don't even ASK me how I missed the ears and the cute tag, LOL.

I didn't rate your photo (or anyone's), but lemme see... Okay, sooooo... I'd say the body itself wouldn't tell me much. The oversized chests on some avatars just automatically turn them into not human territory for me (I'm sorry!), which makes them difficult to properly rate. Face-wise, I'd say your eyes are too wide. I typically go for a more closed-eye look. So I'd move the upper eyelids down and the lower up. Mouth/lips could be wider and more even, too. You're cute, though! You don't HAVE to do any of that, and I see above you say you were going for a human/cow hybrid, so I kind of get it now that I've read it. 😄

Oh I totally agree. My point was mainly that you can't solely go by the whole "lollipops/kawaii/Hello Kitty cute = under 18 avatar" thing when determining age at all. I've personally known women in their 40s (maybe older) totally obsessssssssed with stuff like that. And wooo, they do NOT play. The pens...gawd. So many Hello Kitty pens. 🤣 Edit: To clarify, I don't mean you personally, Chery. Just the general you.

Lollipops, teddy bears, and Hello Kitty blankets. Sounds kind of fun to me. Who wants to start a club? We can do tea parties n stuff. More seriously, women over 30 do very much love some of that stuff, too. That's FluffyKawaiiJo, and her YouTube audience is mostly over the age of 25. I wouldn't think there's a single thing off about anyone rocking that look in SL. It's popular on YouTube, Insta, Pinterest, TikTok, and offline (there are tea party events and conventions and whatnot). Guess wut - men wear it, too. Whether or not Governance is familiar with it is a whole other thing. I would assume so by now, given how popular SoKawaiiSundays is.

I could test it. If nobody else has nonconforming avies to contribute after a bit, I can toss one in. Human ones, I promise. 🤣

The thread needs more male and non-binary avies. I'll wait. 😄

Soooooooooooo much this.

All good observations and I agree with a lot of that. I'm not participating in that thread as I don't particularly have much reason to, but I am watching it out of curiosity. I do strongly agree with your point about making older avatars. They're my absolute favorite (and older male avies are so hot omg wait wut), but you almost never see them unless you know where to look - the fantasy and horror community, mostly. Understandable, as it takes a LOT of effort to make one. I've been shopping mine for a very long time.

I gave a real life example of a grown mid-20s man in pigtails and frilly dresses. Also, Snoop (minus the frilly dresses, lol - ahhh, that'd be something). Also, the Bette Davis example only makes me think of kawaii and similar fashion styles, and those are often 30+ year old women wearing all that (big scene both online and off), so...I'm not seeing the connection. Perhaps I'm just desensitized to those looks since it's all so, so common in alternative fashion scenes with all genders, which I spent much of my life immersed in. Not only that, but as a fluid tomboy, frilly things don't automatically make me think of girls at all (mmmm men in poet shirts...wait what were we talking about?). They do make me think of dolls. Some girls (and boys and men and women) do enjoy looking that way, but I found it suffocating and obnoxious. While I don't think BilliJo has much to worry about, I do wonder about people who dress their avatars in different and perhaps unfamiliar fashion styles if public perception is indeed pigtails = little girls and nothing more.

Is that a human only thread? No, I won't post my frog. Thought about it, though. 😄

As I mentioned in that other thread, I don't see pigtails any differently. Maybe it's because I used to know a guy who wore his hair like that. Very tall guy, mid-late 20s at the time, goth, into EGL fashion and wore frills and dresses and makeup. I guess I just don't see why pigtails would be limited solely to children (girls, in particular). But you already know my views on stuff like this. They are absolutely gorgeous, but I just don't have the kind of patience it takes to rock some of them. I used to wear box braids with extensions growing up and I'm not exaggerating when I say it would be a 14+ hour process to put them in. I am thankful I can wear those styles in SL without having to sit still in a chair, so there's that.

Yeah. I don't think people put that stuff on their avatar to intentionally age them up or down at all. It's more a question of "do I like piercings/tats or nah?" I would be surprised if age entered into the thought process at all. Hair is one of those weird things that may or may not contribute to an avatar's age. I have a ton of styles that could go either way based on the rest of the look. On its own, meaningless, just like height. People do seem to get weirdly caught up on things like ponytails, which is interesting to me. Makes me wonder what they'd think of Bantu knots (worn both by children and adults). Cultural hairstyles almost never enter into convos like that.