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@Pussycat Catnap THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU!!!!! That's exactly the information I needed. Purely out of curiosity, what happens if I don't do that, or don't do it right, for whatever reason? I mean, I AM going to do the right thing...but I'm curious: does the system have internal checks to make sure people/ accounts pay the right amount?

Oh, OK, I'm with you. But from the POV of seeing what the most economical way is to pay for a parcel, I'm only interested in the free 1024 that comes with the account. I figure that once that's used up, it doesn't matter what account levels up...

@Alwin Alcott Excellent - thanks for clarifying that. @BJoyful I did think about using a premium account vs paying land use fees, but that's why I'm trying to find out more about paying the fees, so that I can compare better and can make a decision as to what works best. Now about the premium reducing the cost of an account … I'm not sure I get it (I've seen the argument before), I'm sure I'm missing something. Seems to me it only reduces the actual cost of an account if you take money out of SL (the stipend converted to USD) back into your account. What am I missing? Anyway, I'm flat out not willing to do provide "government-issued identification" in order to do take money out (think of that what you will) so a premium account cost me what a premium account cost me, and I don't get money "back". And I'm in the UK. A premium account in the UK cost £99 + VAT (VAT = sales tax), so £120 per year, £10 (about $13) per month. To me, it looks like it's cheaper to pay land use fees...but I could be wrong. Still researching. About the extra 1024 sqm - I wouldn't split it. I'm hoping that I can simply replace the land donated to the group with paying for it, hence the questions about which account it comes from, and do I need to do anything or will the system recognise I'm 1024 sqm short and take it from my credit card automatically etc. Further down the line, I will have another accounts being downgraded to basic, and I will end up 1536 sqm short. As far as I know, since land fees gets charged in the following bands: 512, 1024, 2048 etc - so 1536 would be charged in the 2048 band, and I was wondering whether I can "signal" that I'd prefer one account in the group to be charged 512 sqm, and another account in the group to be charged 1024 sqm, rather than one be charged for 2028sqm.

So I have bought some land, and I ended up not needing to use auctions, and was able to buy for the group. So no land fees - nice. But one of the accounts in the group (not the group owner) has a premium membership that expires soon, and I don't want to renew, so their contribution to the group will stop, and I'll start paying land fees. Questions: - I'm assuming that when land is group owned, the charge goes through the account who is the group owner, am I correct? Do I need to set anything manually in the Land Use Fees page or is that adjusted automatically? (If it doesn't go through the group owner, how does it work?) - As other premium accounts that contribute land to the group expire, my land use fees will be increasing - again, do I need to do anything or will that be dynamically adjusted and the money taken from the payment method SL has on file for the account? - Should I want to split the cost between different accounts (yeah, I know, at the end of the day, it all goes to the same person…me), is it possible to do that? I ask because at some point, I'll be about 1535 sqm short, and it's a little bit cheaper to pay the fees for 512sqm + 1024sqm, than to pay 2048 sqm, which is what I would be charged for. (Hey, a dollar is a dollar, and I'm in Europe, so VAT is a fifth of the price on top of that - don't judge me…) - And finally… should I want to sell some Linden dollars and get some US dollars, can I use those US dollars to pay land use fees? I'm assuming that selling Linden Dollars puts $ in my Tillia account? Can I then use these amounts for land fees directly from my Tillia account? Do I need to provide "government-issued identification" to do so? As far as I can tell, that doesn't count as taking money out of SL, so it looks like no, I won't need to provide verification, but I'd like to double-check. Free chocolate - er, I mean heartfelt thanks - to anybody who might answer - I know it's a lot of questions, but it seemed better to put them all in one thread than create several smaller ones. Thanks again, and if the answers to my questions have already been covered somewhere, feel free to point me in the right direction.

BINGO! I was wearing the group tag, but did not have the Ability - thank you!

Oh, now I have another question, but it's on a similar topic, so I figure I'd use this thread rather than start a new one... I didn;t win the auction, but I did find some land I'd like to buy... but the "buy for group" button is greyed out. I am wearing my group tag, and the group has more land to it than the amount I want to buy. The land for sale is owned by a group, however. Is that why the "buy for group" button is greyed out? What should I do? How can I buy this land? Does anybody know? Thanks in advance!

ahhhh, great! Thank you!

Thanks, good to know. Now would this work? - buy land at auction with account 1 (let's assume the bid is successful) - deed land to group (the group will have land enough to cover land usage even without the contribution of account 1) - set account 1 land contribution to 0 - account 1 sells land to account 2 (who is also in the group, and does contribute some land) - account 1 gets downgraded to basic - land belongs to account 2, who holds it for the group, and the group has enough land that account 2 doesn't need to pay additional fees OK, I kinda feel a bit petty, but hey, a dollar is a dollar. And I'm curious... Of course this only works if you can sell the land to a specific person (avatar), which I believe is possible - somebody tell me if I'm wrong LOL

Thanks, I'll keep that in mind. So I'll be able to see the payment date due somewhere in my account? Good to know.

Great, thank you @AdminGirl and @Lindal Kidd - both your answers helped a lot. I don't think there is any way I'll avoid paying for the increased tier, since the parcel I'm looking at is greater than the individual 1024 allowance, but I might try and use an account that has the full allowance (the original account I was planning to use has a camper, and zero intention of giving it up - I love the location too much!) Anyway, thank you both for your replies.

Right - thank you so much. Good to know. 🙂 Oooh, that bring up another question... Can I buy the land with one avatar/account, and then sell it to another of my accounts, if I want to downgrade the account that bought the land in the first place to a basic account (the "buyer" account would be still premium). If anybody knows...?

Thanks Alwin. That's exactly what I wanted to know (..if not exactly what I wanted to hear... LOL). But once I have bought the land, can I set the land to the group, and if the combined allowances for the group are the same as the the parcel size, then there's nothing to pay? Or does that only work if the land was bought for the group?

I asked the question in the mainland forum, but I'm thinking it may be belong here better... If I buy land though an auction, is it possible to buy it for a group (to make use of donated land allowance). If not, will I be charged land fee for the few minutes I will hold the land (the parcel size is greater than my land allowance) before I transfer it to the group (as I'm assuming is possible - am I right?) Thanks in advance!

Thanks. I can make sure I have some land to my name, but I won't have enough tier for the parcel size anyway. Does that mean I'll have to pay land use fees, even if I only hold the land in my name for a few minutes? I take it there is no way to buy auction land though a group, then?

I'm looking to bid on a mainland auction, and I'm hoping to use the land allowance from 3 alts. I've donated their unused land allowance to the group, and I'm planning to bid with the avatar that is the group owner. The "confirm bid" window tells me that I have no land free (which makes sense, I suppose, since it was donated to the group). If I bid and win, can I set the parcel to the group, so that I'm not hit with land fees. Is that how it works? Basically, I'd like to know how I avoid land fees when buying a parcel through a Linden auction? What are the step involved? If there's a handy step by step somewhere, feel free to point me in the right direction... Thanks in advance!

I'm sure Chic's videos are great, but in case you prefer a written tutorial on working with prims, I think this one is excellent: https://www.nottingham.ac.uk/elan/tutorials/content/SL_build_tutorial.pdf It's a step by step with plenty of pictures and it starts from the absolute beginning. Have fun... :-)

Or alternatively, to copy some teleports to a specific folder? I can't see an obvious way of doing it, but maybe I'm missing something?

Vespertine has a 5LI kitchen on the marketplace, when I get a home, it's definitely on my shopping list...

Thank you.

oh, nice! Would you mind sharing where they are from? I'm not "in" with the cool kids, so I have no idea where they might be from.

Nope.

Ooohhh, yes, me too, please!

If you're using the Chrome one, you can set it up as default, so you don't have to type it in every time (now that you know how to spell it....) - maybe you know this already...

It seems to work magic for a lot of people...Good luck! :-)