[wanted land for amusement park bussiness propisition for both parties involved]

Who comes on a forum and asks people to pay for something that will bring no profit and call them an investor? Not only that but a HUGE amount every month? Seriously? Are you planning on charging for admission? How are they investing and how will they get back their investment. Sounds like begging to me and always has.

6 hours ago, DYNASTY Clip said:

just a little fyi 175 dollers is alot of money to pay for land when you got other expences to pay every month. and besides like i said the person with the land is getting something out of it a whole park that they co own. obviously it's a good deal wich it is but obviously other in the past thought so too.

How is this a good deal and yes it's a lot of money to pay for land. Do you think other people just have money to throw to the wind? Why would they pay for your dream. Why not pay for their own dream?

They are getting USE of a whole park. The only thing they will co-own is the land that they will be paying for. 

When you post on a public forum you don't get to pick and choose who responds and just because they don't agree with you doesn't mean they are a troll.  You are simply a beggar.

[POWER AND ITS EFFECTS]

You can't selectively coming out of hiding from ignoring people because then you aren't really ignoring them are you?

[POWER AND ITS EFFECTS]

30 minutes ago, Velk Kerang said:

 

Stop talking to me. Seriously now. Let it go. This conversation has went no where positive. I'm going to ignore you now for being a pest from this point on. As bad as I've had it out with some folks on here I've never once blocked and muted anyone on the forums before. Your about to be the first. Take your own advice and move on. lol Don't go away mad. Just go away. lol👍😎

Now I'm hurt...I thought I was the only one you disliked here. Seems to be a pattern huh mate?

[anyone knows non afk, and chatty sims?]

If you go to Fogbound you'll get an IM before you even land...probably chatting is not what they are after though.

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7 minutes ago, hippopotomonstrosesquipedalian said:

Creators - and by extension us consumers -  are about to find out. I, too, am looking forward to September, but I'm also a bit nervous. 10,000L$ for a fatpack? Hell no. Thing is, at that price, creators don't need that many customers, and I have no doubt they will find them. So...too bad for the rest of us?

If someone wants to spend almost $50 RL on a fatpack of Gatcha's then they can have them.  I would not be one to be spending that kind of money on a set of anything that can go "poof" tomorrow if SL closes.  One would be good enough for me.

[What has SL taught you about the world?]

That some things that are totally not normal are normalized in SL. 

[How I built my new deep water (grotto) Home!]

Nice! It looks cozy.

[Stop this practice of your tip jar over your head!]

1 hour ago, Prokofy Neva said:

Can't jump on the bandwagon to stop legal activity that likely arose under duress with the new gatcha policy.

I think it's a great idea if someone has a tipjar over their head. I haven't seen one even going to lots of merchant events, but if they have a very creative costume and "look," I would add to their tipjar on that basis alone. Put a tipjar on your head, please!

But...What is the setting in which people put tipjars on their heads? If you mean "working girls" I don't visit those establishments and am not going to tip anybody in that line of work for any reason. But they are free to do what they want in an adult world.

The idea that this economically necessary activity should be banned due to theh difficulty of camming in, in a world where so many people do camming in that Firestorm even has a feature that lets a user know when someone is camming in on them (correct? is simply not justifiable. 

I think a profile pick that shows your store or venue so that I can go there and tip there is a better proposition in some ways and doesn't rely on me trying to click on you in a laggy event. But picks are limited, and strangely, no one has ever demanded that the Lindens make more pick space, even those picks are used to add to profile information, tell elaborate stories, make family and history albums of virtual lives, etc. and not just to direct people to an exact location inworld.

The thing most people seem to have on their heads as a titler is yet another aspect of their name which is already system and display as different, or they have a "head patter" and display the number of times people have patted their heads, something I don't feel the need to do.

Man, your responses to posts make everything always so complicated. I hardly ever even read your responses because they are so convoluted and long winded and by long-winded I mean almost a book.

No, it's not an "adult establishment" It was 3 regular clubs. BTW, most people, if they are smart, turn that feature off in firestorm.

Also, good lord this has NOTHING to do at all with Gatcha's. Do you need another thread to post in about that?

[Stop this practice of your tip jar over your head!]

I'm not sure who came up with this idea but everyone seems to have jumped on this bandwagon. they have put their tip jars as an attachment over their head. The thing is that your name tag covers up the tip jar! So now you are scrambling to find where their tip jar is. Then you have to cam in to actually be able to click it to tip.  Let's just nip this now.

[New Gacha Policy Discussion]

58 minutes ago, Luna Bliss said:

Yes, the IRS is getting more strict as we've increasingly moved online in so many respects.

In the past one didn't have to report hobby income under a certain amount, but now even that has to be reported    

So you are saying that regardless if you withdraw the money any net profit has to be reported to the IRS? Good luck with that. So all these hosts and DJ's are supposed to be reporting the lindens they earned?

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7 minutes ago, Tari Landar said:

Wise advice, not doubt, but we are at that bridge, and it appears many have not actually saved up for a rainy day (which now they're learning might not have been a wise option, we live and we learn) This is part of the problem, not only are we at that bridge, but once we cross the other side, the whole area is going to get blown up leaving behind an enormous crater much larger than the bridge. We cannot go back, we cannot rebuild a new bridge, we need to press on.

These replacement machine ideas are only really redesigns of the exact same bridge intended to cover that newly created crater but will all fall short of succeeding, and do nothing to preserve life moving forward. They're only going to cause the people focusing on them or desiring to use them, to wither away on the shore. Those who opt instead to keep pressing on and stop looking to remake a bridge that will never get built, will likely thrive. At it's core it's common sense, if you really want to boil it down. The longer you spend working on ideas that cannot and will not work, the less time you have for ones that do and will. 

Also, since everything is so blatantly out in the open how many consumers can they expect will even be on board?

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Just now, Stella Davros said:

Cause there is a marketplace around... put fixed price and u can choice what you want then will have no sense to do all this.....gachas in the end is like wholesale and LL gain money every transaction made on MP , so it s ok if u can choice to buy the whole set no transfer at x price but if someone want to pay 75L and choose all what they want sound ridicolous so if u wanna pay 75L u can choose what the vendor give u in that moment with the option that one day u can resell or trade otherwise buy the entire set i don t know at 3500L for example 

Wholesale, my dear is typically cheaper but you probably won't get that.

[New Gacha Policy Discussion]

Tell me again why creators can't simply put prices on things and sell them?

Common - 100L - Unlimited amount

Uncommon - 500L - 500 Available

Rare - 2000L - 200 Available

All examples of course.  Will no one buy the Common and only buy the rares which would make them not rare anymore?

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Just now, Komarimono said:

Thank you for posting this, even if some backlash may come your way from it.  It's good to see people being honest and upfront on these things.

 

20 minutes ago, Rowan Amore said:

Here's the thing.  I sure as hell won't be playing the new system but then I rarely played the old one.  There will be people who think this new system is somehow more fair and will continue to pump money into it in the hope that the next item will be what they really want.  I think any merchant who buys into this thinking it's a lovely work around to the gacha ban will find themselves losing customers when, at some point, those customers figure out it's an even worse system.  

Have at it.  I won't be shopping at any store that uses it.  I'm sure quite a few people feel the same as me.  

A few pages back, I mentioned a better solution.  Point for each item in a set you buy, collect enough points and purchase the rare.  No random purchases.  No buying something you don't want.  Buy the color/items you want.  Sort of like Epiphany does with points.  Any points from any machine the store has can be accumulated to purchase any rare.  Rares are displayed on a separate vendor that uses points only.

If anything this has become a HUGE eye opener for consumers of how creators have been taking advantage of them for years.  TBH, I could play SL from here on out without spending any more money except possibly Tier and/or land rental. So creators better figure out some clever way to make me spend my money because it's sure not going to be this and won't be for a lot of people. Sure, in the beginning it may seem that it is a good solution but I guarantee that once the concept is fully implemented it will go over like a lead foot and become a nightmare. If your products can't sell without using these tactics then really how good was the product to begin with.

['Not'-cha or "I can't believe it's not Gacha" possibilities.]

1 hour ago, Mollymews said:

the FAQ has been updated, and conveyor systems are allowed

so can start scripting them up

Hope they don't backtrack on that before everyone goes script crazy. It's only the 3rd day. Anything can happen.  Actually, personally, I hope they do backtrack.

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25 minutes ago, Rowan Amore said:

So now instead of paying for something unknown that might be what you really want, you pay for things you know you don't want in order to get what you do want.  

* walks off, shaking her head, mumbling something about a fool and his money.

Exactly! As a consumer I think I'm just going to boycott all the stores that adapt this "conveyor belt" system and patronize the creators that create things and sell them without a "gimmick" for a fair price.  I don't think creators are thinking this through very well and the fact that ALL their customers are on this thread reading how they are trying to get their customers to spend more money instead of just being fair and selling the item for what it's worth. Walks off right behind you.

[New Gacha Policy Discussion]

Glad I was never into Gacha's because this conveyor belt system seems like a clusterF waiting to happen. Why would someone that just bought a common item and a rare item comes up NOT just buy it for themselves? Then you have hoards of people standing around waiting for the chance at getting the next item? no way , no how would I even go to a store that chose to sell things in this way.

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14 minutes ago, So Whimsy said:

I can't be bothered to sell my multiple's so if anyone wants a random animesh jumping spider you hold in your hand for free just let me know and I'll send on your way<3 No gambling needed!

ohhhh, I want one! lol

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5 minutes ago, LittleMe Jewell said:

LL will tell you that gambling most definitely is NOT ALLOWED.  Skill gaming is something totally different (yes, we the Residents know better).

 

 

You think LL is that stupid they don't know? LOL, please.

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Just now, VanessaJane66 said:

'the customer is always wrong'  hmmm great selling tactic.   No matter how you argue it, there are a lot of customers like me, who have no interest in the fatpacks.  They may buy one, or two or three, but 1800 is a crazy amount for something that is not a necessity.  Patronising customers like me is not a great look.

 

What is a necessity in SL? You can get by without spending a dime in SL. If you want a luxury then you will just have to save up for it. Get a job and save. I'm not a seller so however I look is just fine with me.  Understand the whole topic before you comment on a thread.

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1 minute ago, VanessaJane66 said:

 

I got my lovely flying dragon from one pull of a 50L gacha, I didn't care what colour it was I just wanted ONE.  I am on a budget.  How on god's green earth is paying 1800L (even if I can afford it lol) a win for consumers like me?  Sure creators can sell fatpacks.  I am betting they will sell FAR LESS.

 

How do you figure that? 36 people have to buy one gacha at $L50 to equal one fatpack of $L1800. ONE person buying a fatpack will make up for that and trust me there is the market for it.  I'm sorry that you are on a budget but not everyone can afford everything in SL. You'll have to save your money I guess.

[New Gacha Policy Discussion]

Jian has already converted 3 of their Gacha's to fatpacks for $1,800 each. Seems very reasonable to me as you get everything. This is an example of a creator not whining about how terrible this is and went to work to fix it to benefit them. The still have the Gacha's till Sept 1st but they are easing customers into the new way it will be sold. Great job Jian!

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13 minutes ago, Finite said:

Sorry I have already responded to a similar question. Again I do not agree with your pov. Can't you all just agree to disagree? Or am I required to keep repeating myself? That being said I'm kind of loving the SMH responses. So please continue. It reminds me of this three-headed bobblehead doll I once won at a carnival with raffle tickets I paid money for.

You are only repeating yourself because you choose to. Yes, I am entitled to respond to your response to a post. It is called a discussion.

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1 hour ago, Finite said:

I agree with this. I don't agree with the relationship between that and playing SL's version of gacha. Sorry.

It almost identical to gambling addiction in the real world except it's in the virtual world. Have you not heard of people addicted to gambling online?

[New Gacha Policy Discussion]

15 minutes ago, Finite said:

So now gacha players are being compared to junkies and crackheads? Like seriously lol. I live 5 miles from an actual casino. I think its 5 years old now. I've never been there nor do I plan on going. There's another one about an hours or so drive I think that's been there most of my life. Never been there either nor do I plan on going. I play lotto once in a blue moon if I happen to have cash on me when at the convenience store. I have zero aspirations of going on some vegas vacation or anything. If I were to go out west Im far more likely spend a week in SF and have some good food, scenery, wine and sushi. You seem to have a very low bar for what you consider a junky.

Actually a gambling addiction is very comparable to a junkie. Do some research.