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36 minutes ago, Lewis Luminos said:
I'm not turning it on just to check them. If it IS dodgy, by then it's too late. And if I keep it off, I don't need to know if it's dodgy or not.
You seem unusually invested in persuading me to do otherwise. The more you push, the less I trust you.
who's pushing? I offered you a chance to actually see the correct facts instead of the incorrect ones. Even offered you a guided tour.
and it wouldn't be too late. If you read up on the correct facts about the media filter, you'd see it lists the url BEFORE it plays it and you have to specifically approve the new stream. It can't play until you allow it.
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4 minutes ago, CharlotteStargazer said:
"We had no idea people would be so concerned about this, and in our defense we thought no one would find out!"
but unlike the other bot controllers of SL, at least Bonniebots actually identified themselves...........................
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12 minutes ago, Lewis Luminos said:
Thanks, but I absolutely refuse to put media filter on, especially in a place where I know for sure I'm going to get added to Mr you-know-who's database.
My media filter stays off, permanently and for ever.
The media filter is the secuity check on the media stream that shows you whAt stream is attempting to play, so you can check it for any dodgy url's.
so you leaving it off actually means you're not checking each stream. kind of defeats the object.
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11 minutes ago, Lewis Luminos said:
Which was exactly my point, as I said (and bolded) -
Linden Lab have clearly decided that they think its acceptable, even if some other people don't.
I have tried to enter one of their sploders before and it didn't accept my verification whilst I had media off. I opted not to turn it on, and therefore also opted not to play. I wouldn't have won anyway. Sploders hate me. To my knowledge I have not been banned from anywhere under their system.
You still were giving wrong information out about it. Get the tracker hud, go visit one and you'll see.
Just so you have the correct information. Media filter ON. check the various link for those that say verify is in use , or not, and you'll see.
In fact, I'll even take you there inworld so get yourself online, and I'll help you establish the correct facts!
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1 hour ago, Lewis Luminos said:
Even more questionable is a certain brand of security system that uses it, and the associated spolders, which tell you that you can't enter to play unless you activate shared media first.
Wrong.
That security device doesn't use media/media "exploit". Nor does it tell you to enable shared media. Go visit some of the places that use it, and make sure you have your media filter on. You'll soon see.
Each owner must enable the "verify" function specifically, and when a player clicks to enter, they get a BIG blue pop up telling them that by entering, their IP address is logged to check they not using alts to game the system. So it actually puts the choice whether to enter or not in the player's hands ref GDPR. The player is free to refuse this by not entering. How do I know this? I play the sploder sometimes.
Even if you do get banned by it, it's not IP linked (unless verify is in use and you are daft enough to use alts to try and game - even then it's a temporary ban), you can get unbanned by going to their inworld store or via their website.
Food for thought: That system's still around despite others being removed, so must have been checked out before.
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Have you tried the usual stuff?
Reboot modem
Reboot PC
Clear viewer cache
Log into an empty region such as pooley and wait while you reload
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Even if it was the "slavery" aspect, that's peoples choice to roleplay it or not. Responses like some of the above are certainly unwarranted.
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*Reads patch's most recent thread about muck stirring not being allowed*
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30 minutes ago, Bold Burner said:
I tested it and my alts are able to get back to LC...
So I guess it was a one hour 'Mac' ban..... Not that I will return again to their sim though...
thank you all for the replies It's been helpful...🙏
There are FAR better places to go than that place.
Just an idea "just in case" you might want to remove venue name from the thready.
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While getting estate banned from that place is hardly an issue as there are far better venues to go to:
When you are estate banned, you are Mac banned too, for one hour , to prevent you going back with griefing alts. This has been in years
Just wait a few hours and your alts will be able to get in unless they're specifically banned too.
As for IP Bans LL don't ban via IP address, this was told by them at the governance meeting.
None o the the security systems ban by IP address. The one hinted at uses IP address to confirm alts aren't in use but the player gets a prompt telling them this before they enter that game so the choice is theirs so gdpr compliant
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1 minute ago, Dorientje Woller said:
Lordy, you need to understand that it isn't about private and public info, but rather when public info becomes private info. In my country, by law, that starts from the moment when someone says "NO, you're not allowed to share anything about me", whether that info/data is given in a public or private surrounding. That "NO" stands. Following that, the person who said no, has the right to force you to delete the data that you have gathered.
Wrong.
You refer to the GDPR, which only refers to Personal Identifiable Information.
LL have a whole section in the support section where you can make a GDPR request to ask for the RL info that they have on you, if your account level was covered under the GDPR, they' d hardly have made a script to reveal this info.
Even moreso as LL are in California, which has it's own version of the GDPR.
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10 minutes ago, Coffee Pancake said:
It actually never worked and only applied to web profiles .. which didn't see wide spread use as Firestorm refused to implement them, choosing instead to stick with the classic profile interface. So rather than extend the privacy options to the classic profile data, LL chose to do .. nothing .. in a "not our problem" sort of way.
However, the Linden's own KB articles does state there is privacy control for your data, and that you and a lot of others are under the impression that those settings were actually being honored, is important.
The expectation of privacy has been set, the ball dropped, and it's only becoming apparent to people now someone else picked the ball up and walked off with it.
it also tells you that it appliesto inworld search only, and that your profile is visible via an external search engine.
so it's always been like that.
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2 minutes ago, Coffee Pancake said:
B could just have screwed up and broken the page accidentally or temporarily to avoid criticism.
At this point I want a clear statement from @Linden Lab @Alexa Lindenand ideally, stated policy covering data scraping inside SL. What's considered public information and what isn't, and should that include profiles some warning be placed in the viewer on the 1st life tab to inform people.
Keira, Volo, and Tommy already answered this over what's public.
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5 minutes ago, Maitimo said:
Right. Its use for this purpose is an exploit.
Saying "this is public info" is like saying your bank details are public because a hacker stole them and published them on 4-Chan
an exploit? when LL made the script, and made it avaialble for public use?
sure.
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33 minutes ago, Maitimo said:
Part of what was published by the bots was your Premium status. That is NOT public info, it's not visible on profiles for anyone.
Saying "Just don't write what you don't want people to see" is pointless advice. The bots were scraping far more than what users wrote in there.
actually, it IS public info since LL released a script that can show that information. Correct facts, make a correct thread.
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You know something? I'd be interested to know in general just how many SL avatars are up in arms over what is publically available data being compiled and listed as opposed to the usual crowd on these forums.
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If people are daft enough to post real life information on their second Life profiles, no sympathy for them.
If you're worried about your email address just make one in your avatars name, it's not rocket science.
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On your dashboard via the sl website.
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3 minutes ago, TimKoul said:
If you choose the option "nobody" or "friends" to show your feed or any other part of your profile, its no long public (DUH). Some bot comes along and posts literally everything about you, on the internet, for all to see, without caring for privacy settings, that is a privacy breach.
no it's not. read the following page:
quoted the relevant bit here for you :Please note: This change will remove you from Second Life's in world search; however, it will not remove your profile from external search engines. Even though the settings may hide the profile itself when visited, the profile will still exist in search engine results.
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4 minutes ago, Dorientje Woller said:
As European I have the right to object against data sharing. Further more, I have the right to a full insight of the data that has been collected about me and the right to request that this data is removed from the site in question. Nowhere on that site I see those abilities to grant me these rights. That's 3 violations against the EU Privacy Laws, and 3 violations against the EU Data Protection Laws.
but you're not a lawyer, so how can you claim that? you did say earlier you're getting a lawyer. I mean, it's not personally identifiying data, so isn't covered under GDPR.
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2 minutes ago, Dorientje Woller said:
You know what is disturbing, that this site where they publish our profiles has no Data Protection Policy, nor a ROC aka you don't know what's been done with the data aka sold to other, maybe malicious sites/persons, nor do you exactly know what other data has been collect. Now, put your verbal hand in the fire if you can say with your hand on your heart that you are 100 % sure that this site is legit transparent about what they collect of data and that you are 100 % of what they do with that data.
But why are you bothered, when the data collected/displayed, is fully publically accessible inworld anyway?
A Data Protection Policy would only be needed for RL info harvesting, which this isn't.
if you're within the EU, try getting this lawyer you need, to examine it for GDPR infringements. I daresay all they'd do is scratch their heads "this is publiccally viewable info".
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34 minutes ago, Theresa Tennyson said:
So, you're saying that they've given us all the information we need to have a lawyer contact them?
if you're that paranoid, that you need a lawyer, that's your choice 😀
Personally, I don't see what all the hubbub is about.
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Let's also remember Keira Linden pointed out it's all data publically viewable.
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Sims tracking your IP adress and with it no longer allowing alts. Is this legal?
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