Bobo Rosselsprung Posted May 7, 2011 Share Posted May 7, 2011 I've just listed two formal dresses, and the maturity level got changed to Adult. Anyone know how to get that changed back to General? They completely cover everything and I did not use any sexual language to describe them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobo Rosselsprung Posted May 7, 2011 Author Share Posted May 7, 2011 Here are the listings: https://marketplace.secondlife.com/p/BM-Royal-Court-Outfit/2226412 https://marketplace.secondlife.com/p/BM-Imperial-Court-Gown/2211607 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren Scorpio Posted May 7, 2011 Share Posted May 7, 2011 Check all the text in the descritpion as well as the title. Nobody knows what the trigger words are exactly as LL keeps it secret so nobody can game the system but look for obvious words and word combinations. Even something like "Cassidy" can trigger Adult rating because of the C---idy (letters in between). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren Scorpio Posted May 7, 2011 Share Posted May 7, 2011 In these two cases your trigger words might be man-eater and escort. Try changing those two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobo Rosselsprung Posted May 7, 2011 Author Share Posted May 7, 2011 Coool! Thanks for the suggestion Darren! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren Scorpio Posted May 7, 2011 Share Posted May 7, 2011 You're very welcome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren Scorpio Posted May 7, 2011 Share Posted May 7, 2011 I see you have the word escort on the other as well. That might be the word in both cases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaniceMarie Breen Posted May 8, 2011 Share Posted May 8, 2011 Hello Community, i have a problem to change Maturity from mature to general. i have no idea why it dont work. Its a pitty that the most important Item is set to mature but all other are general. Its also a free item. https://marketplace.secondlife.com/p/3MFS-FIRE-CLASS-A/2119209 Maybe its cause fire make damage ? and damage means for LL violent ? I hope not cause every child know that it should not play with fire cause it can hurt them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren Scorpio Posted May 8, 2011 Share Posted May 8, 2011 Might be a long shot but maybe the word "class" as the last 3 letters would definately trigger a Mature rating. I know it sounds stupid but some people have found such words to be the cause of the problem in their cases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peewee Musytari Posted May 8, 2011 Share Posted May 8, 2011 I wouldn`t be surprised if it was even the word "sick" lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sassy Romano Posted May 8, 2011 Share Posted May 8, 2011 It's way beyond my primitive comprehension as to why the word list isn't published. It's fundamentally wrong that it only fitlers English language words anyway! How it can be perceived as a benefit to hide it such that people just waste time dancing around picking alternates is without reason? It might be gamed they say? What? That we find that "escort" is a bad word so have to find our own ways of choosing phrases like "shown a good time" or whatever else suits. I don't understand it at all and it doesn't even affect me, I just set all my items to adult because that's what I sell. I feel for those trying to sell non adult with this system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiola Violet Posted June 30, 2011 Share Posted June 30, 2011 Thanks for the ideas guys maybe we could help each other and give the few notions we have : For me i just found that the word "kinky" set of the moderator replaced by "sexy" worked just fine ... strange choice .... lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Dakota Linden Posted June 30, 2011 Moderators Share Posted June 30, 2011 Greetings, If you have questions regarding the Maturity Ratings please see the Second Life Marketplace Listing Guidelines, located here: https://marketplace.secondlife.com/listing_guidelines General Maturity Rated content is acceptable for everyone, including minors. Moderate Maturity Rated content is for Second Life Users who are 18+ years of age. Adult Maturity Rated Content is for Second Life Users who are over 18+ uears of age who which to engage in overly sexual or violent activities. If your product listing is changed by the system to Moderate or Adult based on the type of product or the usage of specific keywords then you should review your listing to determine who your target buyers are. If you are placing an Adult word into your listings are you really trying to target the product to a 16 year old? And if so, why? The word 'escort' has been mentioned in this thread. For those who do not understand why a word of that type would be considered Moderate or Adult please ask yourself if you really want to sell escort items to a 16 year old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darrius Gothly Posted June 30, 2011 Share Posted June 30, 2011 When my daughter was 13, I acted as her escort to a school sponsored dinner at a local upscale Japanese restaurant. It was her first time at a public function like that and she was proud as punch. (Although she did complain that nylons and dresses were horrid and should be outlawed. LOL) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darrius Gothly Posted June 30, 2011 Share Posted June 30, 2011 (Fictitious Product Listing) For the Gentleman of Breeding, this excellently tailored top hat and tails ensemble will help set the tone of high society as you escort your lady for an evening of dining, dancing and merriment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dartagan Shepherd Posted June 30, 2011 Share Posted June 30, 2011 To err on the side of caution isn't an evil, when it comes to minors. Many adults while perhaps a bit resentful of minors into what they'd prefer as an adult space can grok that. Also reduces liability which reduces cost. Stuff like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darrius Gothly Posted June 30, 2011 Share Posted June 30, 2011 My nickname at a previous job was "The Citizen" .. earned because I always err on the side of caution. (Actually, it was because I have this habit of picking up other people's litter and coming to a full stop at Stop signs, but it's a lifestyle not a dysfunction.) At any rate, I am with you 100% when it comes to taking a path that, should a failure occur, said failure will not result in a worse situation. However, choosing a path of malfunction on purpose and then further crippling the process by hiding crucial information does not qualify as such a situation. The word in question .. "Escort" .. has many more common uses with no adult-oriented meanings than otherwise. It is only in the limited scope of Second Life that the term has taken on a color of sexualiity. Nevertheless, the fact that the word list is kept secret and no indication is given as to which words can trigger an automatic Adult rating is user-abusive. This is tantamount to jabbing someone with a cattle prod, over and over again, with no rhyme nor reason behind the jabs. The two examples I gave clearly show that there are perfectly innocent uses for that term, and anyone not already aware of the word's presence on the list would be impossibly challenged to identify it as THE word causing the problem. I agree, it is marginally acceptable to include the word "Escort" on the list. However it is not the least bit acceptable to hide the reason for the automatic rating from the user. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dartagan Shepherd Posted June 30, 2011 Share Posted June 30, 2011 The word list is probably a moving target, and they're under no obligation to share it. At worst, it's an inconvenience. This could be solved by building in some pre-screening of the listing with a simple message "your listing contains unacceptable text, please modify your listing before you continue". Maybe pop that in a Jira rather than turn it into a debate, and be patient for about 3 months, while other items on a long TODO list gets knocked out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darrius Gothly Posted June 30, 2011 Share Posted June 30, 2011 Dartagan Shepherd wrote: The word list is probably a moving target, and they're under no obligation to share it. At worst, it's an inconvenience. This could be solved by building in some pre-screening of the listing with a simple message "your listing contains unacceptable text, please modify your listing before you continue". Maybe pop that in a Jira rather than turn it into a debate, and be patient for about 3 months, while other items on a long TODO list gets knocked out. Since that is your idea of how to resolve the situation, please go ahead and "Contribute to the Community" by creating that JIRA. (Unless you find such efforts to be wasteful of your time and intelligence.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgan Kincess Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 I'm selling general maturity items on the marketplace and without knowing why some items were changed to Moderate. So I asked for help to a Linden, but he didn't help. Then I tried to remove keywords, and paragraph by paragraph in the description text. So here is the paragraph that changed my items from General to Moderate: "The fan attaches to your left hand. The fanning animation is in priority 4, so it's made to override your AOs in priority 3. The fans are scripted to restart the animation after you teleport." When I put this text, the marketplace tells me: "Successfully updated, but the text in the description field forced a change in the maturity level" English is not my native language but I don't see one word in that description that could make think of anything Moderate or Adult here. If anyone has an idea, please let me know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perrie Juran Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 AOs It's beyond anyone's understanding but has come up several times. Here is recent example: http://community.secondlife.com/t5/Merchants/MP-Ratings-on-Products-Changed-They-did-it-again/m-p/2803206/highlight/true#M50904 See message 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgan Kincess Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 Oh I'm still searching and found that it's in this sentence, there has to be a very naughty word in this: "override your AOs in priority 3" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgan Kincess Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 Yes Perrie! And the winner word to change my items maturity level from General to Moderate was.... drumroll.... "AOs" !!! Like Animation Overriders, very common word in SL, most clients even have a build in version of AOs. Now I know it's a naughty word, I won't use it again, sorry LL (>as Linden Lab, don't go think I meant something else here) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perrie Juran Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 Morgan Kincess wrote: Yes Perrie! And the winner word to change my items maturity level from General to Moderate was.... drumroll.... "AOs" !!! Like Animation Overriders, very common word in SL, most clients even have a build in version of AOs. Now I know it's a naughty word, I won't use it again, sorry LL (>as Linden Lab, don't go think I meant something else here) It must somehow be too close to the acronym POS, which more aptly describes the word filters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgan Kincess Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 indeed it does. I just had to click 350 times to fix my marketplace... Oh and before I contacted the live chat help but of course they had no clue and made a ticket on my behalf. I'll keep you posted if they ever reply Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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