EASIEST... mesh MALE avatar body to get started?

[Sandra8675]

I'm looking for the most easy complete MALE mesh body to get started.  It's preferred to not have separate hands and feet.  And i'd prefer not too many skins.  There has been an issue with skin and getting the skin to match the separate BENTO head to the rest of the body.

[Marianne Little]

Oh hi, you are back! ❤️

Do you want all-in-one with a head too?

And how much clothing should he have? I see you ask in a separate thread, too.

Should he have as many looks as @Skell Dagger, or a standard 2 jeans or trackpants, 3 sweaters with or without hood, 4 t-shirts, one pair of bathing shorts, boots, sneakers, formal shoes, one suit?

[Ethan Paslong]

4 hours ago, Sandra8675 said:

 And i'd prefer not too many skins.  There has been an issue with skin and getting the skin to match the separate BENTO head to the rest of the body.

issues as you describe isn't to blame to the body and/or the head, just  read what you buy and what skin you need to match, than it's just two clicks and you'r done.

And a bit wondering.. you clearly already have a body and head, wouldn't it be a lot cheaper to get some help to get that working.

 

Edited March 26, 2019 by Ethan Paslong

[Sandra8675]

9 minutes ago, Ethan Paslong said:

issues as you describe isn't to blame to the body and/or the head, just  read what you buy and what skin you need to match, than it's just two clicks and you'r done.

And a bit wondering.. you clearly already have a body and head, wouldn't it be a lot cheaper to get some help to get that working.

 

I was looking for some specific suggestion by those who may have first hand experience to share.  And yes you are correct, I do have a body and head.  And they do work properly.  ty

[Sandra8675]

3 hours ago, Marianne Little said:

Oh hi, you are back! ❤️

Do you want all-in-one with a head too?

And how much clothing should he have? I see you ask in a separate thread, too.

Should he have as many looks as @Skell Dagger, or a standard 2 jeans or trackpants, 3 sweaters with or without hood, 4 t-shirts, one pair of bathing shorts, boots, sneakers, formal shoes, one suit?

Hi..  Nice to see you again...  Its preferred to use a separate bento head.  It seems there were issues matching the skin of the bento head that was created to the rest of the mesh body.  Last time I got a mesh body there was not issue with this.  But, last time I used a classic head.  Don't know if this made a difference in things being 'easier' to match between the head and rest of body or not.

[Ethan Paslong]

3 minutes ago, Sandra8675 said:

But, last time I used a classic head.  Don't know if this made a difference in things being 'easier' to match between the head and rest of body or not.

depends what you mean with classic head... a mesh non bento head or standard head?
The mesh classic head will respond the same way as a bento head, if it's omega compatible, otherwise you'll get a very limited choice of skins that are build in..and those mostly don't match any mainstream body.

The standard head in combination with a mesh body can bring more complications... for your head you need a standard skin, and most creators don't offer those anymore, or if they have standard skins, they sometimes have no fitting body appliers. Depending on the style you look for, one of the few who still offer this is 7 Deadly skins.

In general you can say the skin market is offering appliers for mainstream mesh heads and mesh bodies, those will match good and give no trouble. (bento or not, isnt really of any influence on this bodypart)

[Skell Dagger]

6 hours ago, Sandra8675 said:

I'm looking for the most easy complete MALE mesh body to get started.  It's preferred to not have separate hands and feet.  And i'd prefer not too many skins.  There has been an issue with skin and getting the skin to match the separate BENTO head to the rest of the body.

You say you already have a body and head but can't get the skins to match. Could you please let us know which body and which head you have? If they're from separate creators then you won't be able to get an exact skin match using the built-in skins on each, but it's perfectly possible to match skins between, say, a Catwa head and Signature body, or a Lelutka head and Slink body, as long as you use a head applier and body applier from the same skin store in the same skintone and a relatively bright Windlight setting. If we know which Bento mesh head and mesh body you currently have, we can give better advice (and possibly save you from having to buy a whole new body!)

If you don't want to give that information out, or you don't like working with your current mesh body and just want a new one, then answers to the following questions will be helpful:

1.  Which Bento head do you want to match the body to? From what you say here, you already have a male Bento head, so knowing which brand that is will assist us in tailoring more specific advice for you.
2. As Marianne asked - how many outfits do you want to have? Any particular looks you want to be able to wear?
3. Is there any specific reason why you don't want separate hands and feet? They will match perfectly as long as they come from the same creator (eg. Signature Gianni, which comes with three parts: body, hands, and feet).

In another thread created today in this forum you ask for the male mesh body that has the most clothing created for it. Right now your choices for that would be Signature 'Gianni' and Belleza 'Jake'. Almost all menswear stores (with the exception of the specialist ones who rig only for the very muscular Aesthetic, to give an example) will rig for at least Gianni, and usually Jake as well.

However, here you're asking for the EASIEST body. Again, it's a toss-up between Gianni and Jake, but if you don't want separate hands and feet then your choice is narrowed down to one: Jake. That said, you will need a Bento AO (animation overrider) with Jake, if you want to avoid the splayed out fingers that tend to happen with that body.

If you opt for Jake, and your current Bento head is by Catwa, then you'll be glad to know that the Jake body comes with a matching Catwa head applier in several skintones that match the Jake body skin defaults. (Note, though, that this head applier does not come with browless options.)

All that said, I strongly advise picking up demos of both Gianni and Jake (and also possibly Signature Geralt, which is a newer body but still has quite a bit of clothing made for it) and trying them out before you decide on a purchase. Gianni is a stocky, muscular body that requires a lot of shape slider work if you want to tone down the musculature, and Jake has muscle definition built into the mesh (so if you don't want a deep inguinal crease, for example, you'll need to focus on non-muscular skin appliers).

Edited March 26, 2019 by Skell Dagger

[Maitimo]

Just to add to what Skell says here, I've tried both the Signature bodies and the Belleza Jake, and I find the Signature hud much easier. It'more intuitive, has better alpha cuts and of course has built in animations for the bento hands. And you don't need to buy an Omega relay in addition because it's already built-in with Signature. With Jake, you need to budget another L$99 for the Omega relay, plus a separate hand animation AO.

Both Gianni and Jake are very muscular bodies; if you want something slimmer I'd recommend Signature Geralt; there's less clothing for this one because it's newer, but it's increasing all the time as more designers add it to their products.

[Marianne Little]

6 hours ago, Sandra8675 said:

Hi..  Nice to see you again...  Its preferred to use a separate bento head.  It seems there were issues matching the skin of the bento head that was created to the rest of the mesh body.  Last time I got a mesh body there was not issue with this.  But, last time I used a classic head.  Don't know if this made a difference in things being 'easier' to match between the head and rest of body or not.

So, if I understand you correct, you have a female body and head when you are Sandra, but you consider a male alt?

I am a bit confused, haha.

If you have a female head and you learnt how to style it, I would look for a male head from the same creator. If you know the HUD of one head, you are almost there with the male version. I think Catwa female and male heads are very much the same. Almost everything that is made for male mesh heads, comes with a Catwa version included. Many male skins is made for Catwa only.

You can have lots of other heads that is great, but you may have to look for skins that you can use with it.

The Geralt body is my preferred one for men.