Julala Demina Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 The Four Winds Estates sims appear to be constantly offline or unavailable. All marketplace trading seems also to have stopped. Seems to have disappeared off of the grid.LL cant help with any information, the last blog entry was May - have emailed owner but no response.So wishing I have bought those houses when I saw them!!!!! Dammit! :matte-motes-crying: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrable Amat Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 Sl is a very competitive place,here today gone tomorrow as they say...Never wait thinking it will always be there,sim cost 300 a month and if you want to make it marketing cost can be as much or more all it takes is a few bad months to find your self inthe red. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Echo Hermit Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 Checking with the gridsurvey website, it looks like your favourite sims have been given up and removed, around 8th September 2012. As wrable says, for whatever reasons, costs or otherwise, sims do come and go. :matte-motes-frown: http://gridsurvey.com/index.php http://gridsurvey.com/display.php?id=75991 http://gridsurvey.com/display.php?id=75728 http://gridsurvey.com/display.php?id=64344 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julala Demina Posted September 19, 2012 Author Share Posted September 19, 2012 Thanks Echo - useful links. Such a shame to see them gone - they've been around for years and were excellent quality goods. Very sad to see them gone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrable Amat Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 I wish when we leave we had a option to place our builds in a free archive that new users could access for free use and could see what the past has produced in SL. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Echo Hermit Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 I agree, it is very sad. I still grieve for the closure of Apollo and Galaxy Dreams. :matte-motes-crying: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Czari Zenovka Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 I am in a designer group that received regular updates from Four Winds. I love their builds as well. In fact the build that houses my in world store is from them and I have several of their steampunk builds I collected from hunts. It came to my attention that Four Winds moved to InWorldz quite awhile ago. They operated on both grids simultaneously for awhile, but, over the last few months, maybe 6 or more, the designer notices from Four Winds in SL were advertising sales, noting they had scaled down their number of sims in SL, etc. After reading the OP, I realized I haven't received a Four Winds notice for quite awhile. I just popped into IW to double-check if Four Winds is indeed still there. IW's search is weird (seems to be the way of search) and I had difficulty looking up "Four Winds" so I did a search on the merchant, Koshari Mahana. Her profile listed locations to IW Four Winds in picks, but teleports were not working for me in IW. Will have to check back later today. I found this post: http://kosharimahana.blogspot.com/2011/07/economy-stinks-so-second-life-or.html which indicates Four Winds does not have a sim in IW at the time of that posting, but I couldn't find a date on it anywhere. The post does illuminate why Four Winds has chosen not to remain in SL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaddeus Nadeau Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 Oh, what a shame. So many lovely and awesome places and goods are leaving lately. However, there are also new excellent ones coming. However, this is sad news indeed. Koshari's builds have been in SL as far back as I can remember. Shame that she didn't keep her MP listing though. Her work seems, rather seemed, to have been very popular. Many times, you can find a Four Winds house or piece of furnishing while traveling. Regardless where Koshari went, I wish her the best of luck and propserity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamela Galli Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 I had never heard of this business or builder but the builds do look very nice -- it is too bad that she does not keep a SLM store but if you are a home builder you know how much time you must spend on support issues. Furniture too but nothing like houses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darrius Gothly Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 wrable Amat wrote: I wish when we leave we had a option to place our builds in a free archive that new users could access for free use and could see what the past has produced in SL. Well .. you can now. Since DD doesn't depend on a rezzed item for delivery, you can upload your stuff for Direct Delivery on the Marketplace, set them to "Free" ... and log out .. never to return. Near as I can tell the Marketplace has no mechanism now nor any plans to add one that detects and deletes the items from a "Dead" account. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnMiddlefield Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 Julala Demina wrote: The Four Winds Estates sims appear to be constantly offline or unavailable. All marketplace trading seems also to have stopped. Seems to have disappeared off of the grid. LL cant help with any information, the last blog entry was May - have emailed owner but no response. So wishing I have bought those houses when I saw them!!!!! Dammit! :matte-motes-crying: This is so sad. Four Winds was a major major player for Victorian builds in Second Life. For quality, few other builders could match it. In fact, Four Winds may have been the best when it comes to quality. I have a few of Four Wind builds, and now I wish I had more. I used to spend hours looking at their builds admiring the work that was put into them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Czari Zenovka Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 JohnMiddlefield wrote: Julala Demina wrote: The Four Winds Estates sims appear to be constantly offline or unavailable. All marketplace trading seems also to have stopped. Seems to have disappeared off of the grid. LL cant help with any information, the last blog entry was May - have emailed owner but no response. So wishing I have bought those houses when I saw them!!!!! Dammit! :matte-motes-crying: This is so sad. Four Winds was a major major player for Victorian builds in Second Life. For quality, few other builders could match it. In fact, Four Winds may have been the best when it comes to quality. I have a few of Four Wind builds, and now I wish I had more. I used to spend hours looking at their builds admiring the work that was put into them. Same. I spent most of my time shopping the Victorian builds since that is a key interest of mine in SL (Victorian sims/rp) but, the last time I was at Four Winds in SL, they had areas for merfolk, steampunk, elven, various fantasy type builds, and several others I'm probably forgetting. I found it fascinating to just wander around their sims because the builds were laid out and presented as actual cities/towns instead of just products. Haven't tried to log back into IW, but, from talking to a good friend who is now strictly in IW, I'm pretty sure Four Winds is there. ETA: I am not by any means promoting IW. Those who know me well understand. Just stating where I believe Four Winds to be for those interested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaddeus Nadeau Posted September 21, 2012 Share Posted September 21, 2012 Yes, it does take a lot of time to provide quality support. I didn't mean to sound ignorant of the fact. If she is making a presence in another virtual world, it would make sense that she would prefer to focus her time an energy there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamela Galli Posted September 21, 2012 Share Posted September 21, 2012 Oh no I didn't think that. In fact I asked myself, I wonder why she doesn't leave such lovely builds for sale on MP -- and then realized that unless she closes her account completely, she would be forever obligated to do CS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julala Demina Posted September 22, 2012 Author Share Posted September 22, 2012 Just to confirm - I had an email back from the owner of Four Winds confirming that she left SL because she started to lose money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamela Galli Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 It is sobering that she could not make money with such lovely builds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sassy Romano Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 Darrius Gothly wrote: wrable Amat wrote: I wish when we leave we had a option to place our builds in a free archive that new users could access for free use and could see what the past has produced in SL. Well .. you can now. Since DD doesn't depend on a rezzed item for delivery, you can upload your stuff for Direct Delivery on the Marketplace, set them to "Free" ... and log out .. never to return. Near as I can tell the Marketplace has no mechanism now nor any plans to add one that detects and deletes the items from a "Dead" account. This was raised as an issue both before and during the development of Direct Delivery. I've said it before but at minimum, i'd like to see the last log on date of the merchant on the listing itself. Simple, effective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spica Inventor Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 From their web page.... 'To buy a full region in Second Life there is a $1000.00 set up fee (15,000 prims) To buy a full region in InWorldz there is a $75.00 set up fee (45,000 prims) Second Life tier is $295.00 a month InWorldz tier is $75.00 a month (I'm pretty sure this hasn't changed)' But she does admit that she really doesnt do much other than build things. If you like to explore the grid like I do, there really isn't much to explore over there in InWorldz and Avination still, so until that changes somehow, the much smaller costs arent going to make much difference in causing any sort of exodus from S.L. to the alternatives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Czari Zenovka Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 Spica Inventor wrote: From their web page.... 'To buy a full region in Second Life there is a $1000.00 set up fee (15,000 prims) To buy a full region in InWorldz there is a $75.00 set up fee (45,000 prims) Second Life tier is $295.00 a month InWorldz tier is $75.00 a month (I'm pretty sure this hasn't changed)' But she does admit that she really doesnt do much other than build things. If you like to explore the grid like I do, there really isn't much to explore over there in InWorldz and Avination still, so until that changes somehow, the much smaller costs arent going to make much difference in causing any sort of exodus from S.L. to the alternatives. I didn't say it would...in fact in one post in this thread I stated I am *not* advocating IW; just answering the OP as to what happened to this merchant and included the blog link so those interested could see what she said in her own words about making the move. The thread subject is about *one* merchant, not a discussion on any "exodus" to alternative worlds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonSezWOW Posted November 30, 2013 Share Posted November 30, 2013 Just in case anyone was wondering I learned from Koshari Mahana's blog that she's no longer in SecondLife. She's in InWorldz listed as Four Winds. See this... http://kosharimahana.blogspot.com/2013/05/new-home-and-updates.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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