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    Second Life 16th Birthday Celebrations Confirmed

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    8 hours ago, Mollymews said:

    sometimes a conversation of our own country's history can be helpful. I find that so for myself

    the last time somebody told me that they didn't want to hear their own history from me, was a person on the other side of of a treaty settlement negotiation table

    on the side matter you have raised. If we are going to produce the I-was-here-first because native card and any other view than my own can be dismissed on this basis then:

    kia ora, ka mihi ahau ki a koe. Ko Maungamuka te maunga. Ko Hokianga te awa te moana. Ko Ngapuhi te iwi. Ko te whare o Eruera Maihi Patuone te tupuna.
    (hello, I greet you. Maungamuka is my mountain. Hokianga is my harbour. Ngapuhi are my people. I am from the house of Eruera Maihi Patuone my ancestor)

    a real world thing today is that nobody cares really about who was in a land first. What people care about is that we are here now, as we are now, and how do we go forward from here

    where past history is important is in knowing how we got into an adverse situation that we are in now. From this then: What reparations if any can be made for what did happen. What did actually happen that would warrant reparation. And most importantly what do we need to put in place now so that it doesn't happen again
     
    what has happened to other native peoples who went through colonisation is of importance and of practical help to me. I learn from those experiences and they help me to better understand my own thoughts and expectations of what may be useful, what may be possible, what may succeed, in our own continuing negotiations for a pathway forward for all of us together

    kia ki ai tou wairua i te rangimarie. kia ki ai tou ora i te hari

    Elizabeth? Is that you?

    Second Life 16th Birthday Celebrations Confirmed

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    2 hours ago, Mollymews said:

    @Selene yes, if we now citing slave emancipation then some others are

    600 BC. Solon of Athens
    500 BC. Cyrus of Persia
    300 BC. Ashoka of India
    10 AD. Xin of China
    900 AD. Pietro of Venice
    1300 AD. Louis of France
    1400 AD. Isabella of Castile
    1600 AD. Feodor of Russia
    1700 AD. Holt of England

    there were also many other times when slaves were emancipated, in whole or part, and in some cases this was overturned by subsequent generations to some degree or other. Followed by future generations having to re-establish slave emancipation and build upon this to end the practice of slavery once and for all. A least in those societies which believe in the ideal that all persons are treated equally under the law

    in some cases lip service was paid to the ideal of equal under the law, and the doctrine "equal but separate" took hold and the institutions of society were re-ordered to effect this. Institutional segregation. US Supreme Court 1896 Plessy v Ferguson being an example of this

    yes the US people who did fight and those who did die, to end slavery in the USA are to be acknowledged with respect and gratitude. As we also acknowledge those who lost their lives during WW2. Understanding also that those who did live through this, then looked at their societes and thought never again, particularly in the western democracies

    in the US post-WW2 they also looked at the "equal but seperate" doctrine that had permeated US society since the US Civil War and decided to do something about it in terms of institutional change. Those doing something about it institutionally included 9 white male Supreme Court justices in the 1950s, as well as many other democratically-elected representatives thru the legislative and regulatory processes. The operative being that they actually started to do something about ending segregation rather than just talk about it. This is not to diminish the efforts of those in the US who did fight against segregation down through the years between the US Civil War and WW2. Nor of those who continue the struggle subsequently, up and to today, and no doubt into the future also

    would the institutional representatives have done this without vanguard activists ? Possibly, possibly not. What we do know for certain is that in the aftermath of WW2 they did, that the then activists did what they did also. And that activists and institutional representatives, continue to do what they do down the generations since including today, as these things always go

    but anyways this all said, LL have decided to throw a birthday party for all the grandparents and great parents in SL is how I see it. And I will go and be happy for them.

    @Scylla. yes I would like to see at least one or two of the display parcels include some acknowledgment of the more serious efforts made by those who did what they could to make society a better place in those days

    At my age I really do not need history lectures. Suffice it to say that I'm all too well versed in such subjects considering my people have been on this continent for a few thousand years longer than the European immigrants.

    Whats the best sl viewer?

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    1 hour ago, rasterscan said:

    Does anyone have a 'safe' download link for Cool VL.  ? Last time I downloaded it the exe was flagged by my anti virus so I didn't risk it.

    False positive. You're going to get that even if you dl from a "safe" link. You can disable your AV long enough to dl the exe as a workaround.

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    Second Life is down.

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    1 hour ago, Gwenfrewy said:

    Can I ask if we should try logging in constantly or is that a heavy burden on the servers? I can imagine, and that may be why the login attempts are being disabled?

    Don't. Please.Think about a few hundred people doing that all at the same time and the load it puts on the servers. It's the reason why so many have trouble logging back in once logins are re-enabled. 

    High Fidelity gives up.

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    1 hour ago, Resi Pfeffer said:

    Somehow i expected already it wouldnt be that easy, otherwise everyone would do it that simple way :)
    I´ll try to read and understand the whole post you just wrote. Im an absolute mesh newbie, and maybe your pics and descriptions help me a bit.

    One of the things you can do is use one of the OpenSim servers and have your own little grid on your pc to use for building and testing after running through Blender. That is my preferred method so I don't have to deal with the beta grid or spend a bunch too much uploading. 

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    Second Life is down.

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    2 hours ago, Selene Gregoire said:

    About the only thing that is still up is the forum. Some maintenance they're running this week. You guys ready for the grid to be mostly down for next 3 or 4 days? Hope so, because now all the new(er) people will find out what it was really like back in the day. MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

    I wonder if when we can log back in (and stay in) will our hair and shoes be stuck up our butts again. 

    Man, when LL effs up, they really eff up.

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    Second Life is down.

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    1 hour ago, Grumpity Linden said:

    You heard it first.  It's all Lucia's fault.  

    Seriously though, we're very carefully lining our ducks back up in a row - and will enable logins again as soon as it's prudent.  We're not actually that crazy about taking down the grid, but we had to bang on some things, and are terribly sorry!

     

    Yea, yeah. Heard that line for 14 years. Still don't believe it. And Ebbe better not be robbing any more of SL's cluster and giving them to Sansar.  He may think it will cause SL to shut down in the next couple of years but I got news for him.  Most SL residents are not interested in Sansar. Sansar is not the open world SL is and never will be.

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    Second Life is down.

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    1 hour ago, Shamu077 said:

    Well at least community.secondlife is still up - so don't have to do something useful in RL yet :)

    I was logged out with about 6 mins left in my set tonight - but kept streaming just in case. Looks like we all got hit w/ the planned network maintenance.

     

    We did. And we have 3 more days of this (if not more).

     

    ETA: Some years back LL messed up and the grid was down for a week. Hasn't happened since that I'm aware of. I fully expect it to happen again, this week.

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    Second Life is down.

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    About the only thing that is still up is the forum. Some maintenance they're running this week. You guys ready for the grid to be mostly down for next 3 or 4 days? Hope so, because now all the new(er) people will find out what it was really like back in the day. MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

    I wonder if when we can log back in (and stay in) will our hair and shoes be stuck up our butts again. 

    Man, when LL effs up, they really eff up.

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    Second Life 16th Birthday Celebrations Confirmed

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    2 hours ago, Mollymews said:

    that is literally correct about the seeds. We could also say that the seed for emancipation was first sown from an apple plucked from the Tree of Knowledge

    i rephrase things

    it was in the 1950s that US civil rights entered into mainstream white US consciousness. 1954 Brown v Board of Education, 1955 Parks v Montgomery, to name two

    That is if you believe in that sort of thing.

    Civil rights entered into mainstream white consciousness before the Civil War. If it had not, there likely would never have been a civil war and blacks wouldn't be the only ones kept as slaves. 

     

    What do you think?

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    1 hour ago, animats said:

    Why would it kill immersion? You sail up to the toll gate, pay, and the ban line disappears. Many RL canals charge tolls. SL supports pay access, with the "pay for access" option on land.

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    Pay to play

    It's not great, but if Linden Labs won't provide navigable water, it's up to private enterprise.

    You get all bent out of shape when someone disagrees with your suggestion and then you turn around and insult my intelligence as if I don't know anything about SL? What the hell is wrong with you? Stop trying to force those of us on low or fixed incomes out of SL with your damn nickle and diming people to death.

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