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13 hours ago, LittleMe Jewell said:
The Traditional houses, Houseboats, and Campers are definitely more cramped that the older Linden Homes. The new Victorians are much roomier inside. There are still 4 more themes coming, but we don't know what.
Review this for modifying your camera settings to make moving around inside the homes easier and make most of SL look better.
https://catnapkitty.wordpress.com/getting-started-in-second-life/#Camera_SetupThis does NOT repeat NOT fix the floor problem, which is not about your camera angle, but the way the mesh is created.
Because very similar houses made by two different creators let us know that one can suffer from this problem and the other doesn't. Changing my camera angle is all well and good but not when something else is causing this.
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14 hours ago, Tenly said:
Yesterday I tried a houseboat. I loved the inside floor plan on some of them. But I seem to have a problem with the avatar bobbing in and around as if the place is to small for the camera to stay inside with her. SO half the time I see her and the other half is just jarring between walls and the outside. Maybe there is a way to correct it?
I ended up abandoning the boathouse. COol as it was...not trees and I like a bit of lawn. So onward to trying a home. As far as I know the four options you get in the mailbox menu are the only 4 options available. While I ADORE the options outside...I really dont like the closed interiors. Im a modern gal who loves the open floorplan. Even my old 1960s house in RL has a more open floor plan. From my living room I can see my little dining room and the kitchen is open to the dining area. It makes the place seem bigger than it actually is. MY RL home is not much bigger than the new linden homes. But like I said, it FEELS bigger because the only things closed off from me are two bedrooms and the two bathrooms. I had the same camera problem only it was worse.
Im hoping someone can help me with the camera problem. Because otherwise the homes are too claustrophobic. I have a lovely house in my inventory I would love to use. But I guess I would have to buy land to do that.
I am happy to see the new homes as it means things dont feel as clonish as they do with older homes I've tried. Hoping to see some more open floor plan options in future though. WOuld be nice to have the option to change the floor plan inside the house! Bet no one thought of that yet! 🙂
I was just noticing in the Victorian homes that there are NO camera issues. You don't jerk up and down when you walk. The moles know their business. I didn't see that jerkiness in the trailer, either. I don't know about the other homes, I didn't own any.
In fact, I was hoping the Moles could isolate this thing they achieved and standardize it and get all house builders to do it.
Because I am SO SICK of having this bobbing up and down in certain houses. Certain house makers suffer from this throughout; others suffer from it maybe in one big room; still others lick this problem and it doesn't happen.
I'm told it has to do with the way mesh is uploaded. I'd like more detail.
Somebody said you fix this by taking off "physics shape". Aside from getting a warning error message when you do that, in fact it does NOT cure the problem, and leaves you with sinking through the floor. It is NOT a solution, even if the floor is de-linked.
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On 12/26/2019 at 7:45 PM, Gopi Passiflora said:
I don't mean horror of the gorefest kind or just jump scares or whatever. I mean horror that actually messes with your mind and will question your sanity.
If you go through all the paths and levels at Shaman's Hut, this may happen, but you would have to think and feel and take time, and few have the patience for that in SL.
It may be, like a lot of people, you want something that does all the work for you and wows you and grabs you -- floors upheaving, spirits screeching, furniture gaslighting, etc.
But these days, you can stay on a bog-standard garden-variety sim with things disappearing and odd things happening due to the software glitches and the same effect is achieved.
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10 minutes ago, BelindaN said:
The only odd experience I had a few days ago was that a sofa I'd previously tried in my bedroom, but removed....was phasing in and out.
It never stayed long enough for me to click on it, but was fully rezzed for less than a second.
That cycled in and out for the whole session, but disappeared after relogging.
Yes, that's a good description of what I'm seeing. "Phasing in and out".
"I'm Here But I'm Gone" by Curtis May.
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1 hour ago, Blaise Glendevon said:
Area search by Owner Name. It'll point the item out.
No.
It's not about lost items, that's different.
This is different.
Read what I wrote.
It's about things that are there, and you know are there (you may have just edited them or put them out, and no they didn't bounce) -- but disappear.
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13 minutes ago, lucagrabacr said:
Happy new year everyone c=
It's a new decade and Second Life is still alive and well. More than anything it's a testament to the values and principles it very ferociously stands for despite all the unwarranted negativity it received over the years.
Second Life is still the most technically sophisticated platform for a 3D virtual world, but what Second Life is in that regard rose from its foundational bedrock values and principles - to be a virtual world where anyone can become and do whatever they want.
It's easy to take all this for granted but for our own sake, remember; no other virtual world offers as much as SL does in term of freedom and being an actual "world". Many of those other worlds easily dispose the idea of creating an actual world in favor of a more technically-feasible "instanced" or "rooms"-based "virtual world" - a very statistical and "most people (who don't really use virtual worlds) don't care" approach that in itself is a testimony to how little many other platforms care about the grand vision of a virtual world, a mockery of its spirit by basically saying "It doesn't matter". And many of them unsurprisingly failed
But most importantly, we know the values and principles the people who built and is building SL stand for, they are ones that align with ours and the spirit of building a true virtual world of unadulterated freedom. Unlike so many others who almost very predictably will bend their knees and throw away our cause the moment the wind gets too strong. And for that Second Life is the holy land of our virtual way of life on which soil we literally build our dreams.
I tend to sound preachy about this but the few of you who know me and what I do beyond my forum posts probably know that already, I wish everyone a happy new year ♥
For reference in case you don't follow social VR news;
- High-Fidelity is basically closed
- Sansar changed direction into being a "VR Platform for Live Events"
- Sinespace doesn't have a clear value preposition compared to competitors
- NeosVR, RecRoom, AltSpaceVR remains very niche
- Facebook's Horizon basically horrifies everyone because Facebook being Facebook
- VRChat has much less active users compared to SL, still doesn't have a way to monetize, and is not really a virtual world
- Many other social VR startups basically don't know what their value preposition is
And for non VR social 3D worlds;
- IMVU is not really a virtual world, they're the literal, actual 3D Chatrooms people tend to say SL is, on different niche from SL
- OpenSim grids remain very niche, some big ones died, many are rife with problems and no actual development
Out of all these other worlds (mentioned and not mentioned), I only see 1 which can be an actual competitor to SL in the future.
The author of Sinespace might disagree with you on this.
I was just reading about the Open Sims and Hypergrid by the journalist (who used to write about Chechnya, actually, if you can imagine). And she seems casually optimistic although she nearly quit reporting on worlds in favour of VR stuff. So read up on that.
After 15 years of this, I've concluded that not everybody avatarizes well, and the learning curve is too steep. And these things aren't changing despite more will to change them.
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I thought at first this was some setting I had wrong in "Build" or possibly some other problem like trying to do something across sim borders.
But it's not.
And now tenants are reporting this to me, too.
And yes, on sim edges (this used to happen ages ago) but I'm finding it all over as well.
Like, I put out something and I can't see it. No, it's not that it has a transparent back (so many mesh things do). It's just not visible, even being a prim block. No, it doesn't re-appear after relogging (that's a different issue where things don't rez for you and you have to wait for them -- this is the disappearance of things you just put out).
Or I edit something -- it disappears. I pull it away from a building -- I can see it again. (Maybe this is related to alpha transparencies on old buildings, which can cause this).
But I notice it on new stuff (like Storyteller's Burrow), and just odd things -- like half a living room's furniture will be "there," and the other half won't.
Yes, you can right-click on a building to make it "snap into place again". Sculpties have this problem sometimes.
My God, please don't tell me for the zillionth time about RenderVolume etc. That is at 4.4 and always is. That is NOT the issue.
There are so many other things wrong lately I wonder if a patch is coming.
But let's see if anybody else has invisibility problems.
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On 12/16/2019 at 8:13 PM, Qie Niangao said:
There's also a very elaborate Mole amusement park spanning Weston and Oak Bluffs in Bay City. Hardly anyone ever goes there. Also there's a kind of Linden boardwalk with arcade and assorted "fairground" stuff in Rizal. It too is pretty much always empty.
I checked in on Schizura and yeah, it looks as if the Lab is getting ready to clear the land and declare it abandoned.
On the plus side, the Schizura amusement park installation is not particularly laggy -- some amusement park rides are physics-heavy and lag the sim. (Right now for example Xanthorhoe, just a few sims from Schizura, is suffering from physics lag due to an old timey midway ride. That's in stark contrast to Schizura.) So if a home for the content can be found, neighbors shouldn't have reason to complain about the lag.
I never even heard of that Mole Park. But then, I almost never go to Bay City.
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47 minutes ago, Rolig Loon said:
Behold the "Pink" color on a Sun Valley trailer:
So, guys, I realize it's always "works on my machine" on the forums. I *am* capable of looking at a menu and picking out a colour, and I'm not colour blind.
But here's the thing: the model of mobile home I have is called "Williamsburg". It's old school and does not have any version of pink. Remember, we're talking about the OUTSIDE walls here. This is the model I want because it feels larger with the two rooms and the porch. Yes, I'm aware that I can re-rez one of the other models that do have pink.
Williamsburg does not have pink.
Here is a screenshot of the menu. There is no second page for the outside wall.
There is "poppy" which is red, not pink.
Compare and contrast.
Hence, my use of a tinted prim. If the Lindens rule against this, it's their game.
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On 12/20/2019 at 5:37 AM, PrudenceAnton said:
UPDATED: Okay, @Patch Linden spoke up in Bellisseria Citizens chat group this morning and cleared up the confusion on this.
[03:25] Patch Linden: What I sad was, when people rubbed color changing shells in our faces, that we should retain the bug that allows for changing the exterior colors of homes to anything they wanted, that the level of customization on these homes is purposefully limited.
[03:26] Patch Linden: So I reinforced that fact, and then said if it continues to be an issue we may consider restricting add-on color changing shells (only and in that context)[03:26] Patch Linden: That color changing bug has since been fixed, and a re-rez of a home will correct for it.
[03:30] Patch Linden: We've generally (read: somewhat, maybe) been ok with the color changing shells that were made for the Traditional homes for example, people have for the most part made smart choices there, but it could get out of hand. It's sorta like living in a deed restricted (HOA) community, things should remain in balance and clean.
[03:33] Patch Linden: All ya's gotta do is ask me, hopefully I won't miss things, but I'm always happy to clear things up.
(formerly posted this) : I didn't catch where this topic picked up at, but if shells & add ons are banded, I'll abide by it as well, though it'll be a very sad and blue day for myself, Cian and others. Nearly 6 months ago now, the Bellis Blues Cafe was designed with a shell and add on, beautifully done, to make it possible to have the blues cafe. If they're banned, then we'll have to sadly close the doors on this little Bellisseria community get together location, for without the lovely additions that @Chic Aeon designed for the cafe, it just.....isn't the blues cafe.Added: The Bellis Blues Cafe's design is safe and secure. Doors will remain open! 🥳
Well, I have to say I'm confused by this because I didn't follow the saga of the bug, nor of colour shells being rubbed in faces.
I gather that the issue is that they don't want neighbourhoods where somebody has a neon glowing green and drives away other people or "brings down the neighbourhood".
It reminds me of my parents' old neighbourhood on Cape Cod. When they first moved there 50 years ago, a lot of it was kind of beach-tacky which people liked. There was a woman with a disabled son who had a purple house, a shack really, with a store she called "Whichcraft" which we all thought was a brilliant name. That store enabled her to survive and keep her son at home. She was a herbalist and made poultices for sunburn and had pine tar gum for sale and home-made beach plum jelly and all those old timey Cape Cod things. We used to so look forward to going to her home and store which was around the corner from my parent's old house.
But after some time, the town fathers became upset with her store which they thought was too tacky and that she was a "witch" -- which shouldn't have mattered, but honestly, the name wouldn't prove that. They had to come up with some way of getting rid of her. So they passed a law for the territory of that housing tract about house colours, that they could only be "Cape Cod Blue" or some variation on a very restricted list of colours. Her purple was not that different from "Cape Cod Blue" but on that grounds they hounded her out of there. It was terrible!
Since purple or plum is actually one of the house colours, maybe purple will fly but I guess not pink for trailers? It's odd that you can turn the Victorians pink (I did mine), which is a bit strange (although as Alwin said they had a huge palette of colours) but you can't turn the campers pink -- that seems counterintuitive as the concept of the Flamingo Motel Court Cabins which I had first in TSO then in SL is ubiquitous in RL.-
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On 12/18/2019 at 2:43 PM, Quartz Mole said:
Have you considered Discord? Most RL projects in which I'm involved use that now, precisely because of the issues with Skype you describe, and I find it a lot more reliable.
I used Discord because that's where the devs for FreeSO (the re-constituted The Sims Online) post all their notices (BTW they have added a ton of new content and neighbourhoods with mayors, it's really cool).
But maybe because I then associated it with gaming that I don't think of it for work, I go on it and it seems like all this gaming stuff pops up. You're right it doesn't crash or patch as much as Skype. PS Skype phones home too from what my computer repair geek tells me. He wanted me to take it off my machine completely. But I don't know of any other program that enables you to telephone people in Afghanistan for free.-
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On 12/19/2019 at 10:12 PM, PrudenceAnton said:
I got a Victorian home the other day and have been having a grand time fixing the home up. I looked around my neighborhood, several regions out even, and noticed not very many are furnished out yet. I only saw 5 homes out of 50 in the surrounding area that were fully furnished, a dozen others had a couple of pieces of furniture inside and the rest, completely empty. ☹️
Anyway, here's a picture or two of what I did with mine. I went with the old Victorian furnishings. To see the rest, I'm providing my flickr page url to see the entire set up.
LH - Victorian - The Verne: https://www.flickr.com/photos/161818639@N02/albums/72157712280242136/with/49245577011/
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Wow! That's very nice. That's how they're supposed to look! And I see that Fancy Decor gatcha set that I spent thousands on trying to get the rare clavichord : )
Well, my Verne is an opium den, which in fact disguises a British spying operation. Go up to the Anxiety skybox using the teleporter in the foyer, sit on libertine's decorator's stool, and click on the Dynasty buffet to see DenisLeontevv's old Soviet radio station.
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On 12/20/2019 at 12:31 AM, Chic Aeon said:
Patch posted yesterday (I think it was yesterday -- a bit busy and blurry here) that outside shells may be "outlawed" as in made against the covenant. This if they get reviewed as he mentioned. Look at his posts to find his exact comment. Better not go to tons of work if it will just get returned to you :D.
Oh, I see. Well, I can't imagine a world without pink campers and mobile homes. If I have to take the prim off because of their rules, I will do that but it might shorten my stay in the LH camper world : ) I don't think I will be missed : )
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On 12/18/2019 at 1:09 AM, Mitch Merricks said:
From Squeaky Mole:
Just so you know, tinting the outside is a bug. Abusing bugs is not allowed so if we spot tinted exteriors we'll reset your home.
This bug and other small things will be fixed shortly.
Well, I got the siding to tint with a coloured prim. I need to have pink if it's going to be Flamingo Court. It's not the best solution because the windows get pink then unless I add lots more hollowed prims which I don't want to do. I put them on phantom to walk through.
If you are wondering, "But why icebergs?" These are fundati's new icebergs that fit perfectly given that not all the ice cap has melted since the Moles made the glacial lakes on this sim (I don't think those glacial lakes are on every sim and that's why I chose this location after a re-roll.)
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@Chic Aeon re "And I think that the Victorians have lots more character than the traditional and with bigger footprints there is less to do outdoors (which means less "ugly" clutter in some cases ^^. "
I think they do, too, which is why I got one for my alt although I haven't gotten a Linden Home (after my original Wizard's house) in probably 10 years or more, except for a brief hiatus with a boat house which I ditched due to ban lines (yes, they fixed those but by then I was busy with other things) and an A-frame which I never visited
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On my main I got a camper just because it seemed like the thing to do but I think I'll ditch it soon, as it is tier that can't be grouped with the 10% bonus, which I find annoying (you can't group the Linden home land for some reason tho you can set to group). If I see they are hugely in demand again I'll release mine so someone who appreciates it more can have it because I already have two entire Mainland sims with camper and cabin stuff.
As for "less to do outdoors," somehow M. Carter Blanc (Telehub Ross) has taken a sarcophagus out into the back yard and I don't know what the hell is in it or what he's doing but someone could explore. He's also turned the whole house into an opium den. I believe it was the jade wall colour that suggested it.
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17 hours ago, Beth Macbain said:
There most certainly is. My trailer is so pink inside and out that I named my parcel Beth's Pink Box.
But that's on the inside. I mean the siding on the outside. I'm going to see if I can put a tinted transparent prim on it somehow or maybe just a prim with siding in fact.
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14 hours ago, LittleMe Jewell said:
I don't think they've hit saturation yet. There actually seem to be plenty that like the Victorians - I'm just more partial to my Traditional. I also think there are still plenty of folks that are waiting to see what the next themes will be. And ultimately, all those folks still hanging on to the older Linden Homes will have to give them up - and I imagine that most of them will come to the new ones. Very likely some of the current hold-out batch is still waiting to see what other themes come up.
There are plenty of people that rent places where they cannot actually edit the house, so that part isn't a real problem to some people. The biggest advantage, IMO anyway, to the Linden Home, which does help offset the fact that you cannot edit the house, is that it does not count against your LI and so you end up with the full amount of 512/1024 LI to use for your own furnishings and landscaping. And the old Linden Homes also could not be edited, yet many flocked to them when they first came out. Over time, some get tired of the restrictions and move on to other less restrictive pastures - Patch even commented that LL actually expects many folks to do just that. Yet, even after all these years, there are actually still quite a few of the older Linden Homes occupied, and (based on forum posts) quite a few are from oldies, not just newer folks.
Many of the folks that have gotten one or more Linden Homes have also kept their mainland, so I can see other folks keeping their current rentals as well. Ultimately, I'm not sure what the overall impact on rentals will be. I can easily see some eventually losing interest in the Linden Homes - maybe not until after they have sampled every type - and then returning to either a rental somewhere or buying their own land.
Yes, it's true that if people rent a house normally they won't be able to edit it, but whenever I go on a busman's holiday and rent a place, that's the first thing that bothers me. Once you get used to editing houses, you don't want to go back. I have some sims where the house prims don't count so the tenant does get the full prims of a 1024 or even more because in a group you can do that. I think some people like the convenience and savings of a rental as they'd rather spend on clothes, pets and vehicles, and others like to own both land and home and fortunately there are those choices in SL.
I wonder if people will really flee from the very oldest Linden Homes. I do know a few people who like particularly the Asian or A-frame styles and stay rooted. What will happen if the Lindens face lots of sims where there is only one hold-out here or there? Will they (like me sometimes) consolidate and offer their hapless customer a free month's rent so that they will move and the Lindens can save a sim?
People are really creatures of habit. I have some tenants who put out things they love that are literally from 15 years ago, and I'm like that, too, sometimes. I offer to deliver to them new mesh furniture for 25L, or I point them to places where there is a 35L Sunday or a 50L Friday or a freebie where they could be having really nice things for a song. But they want that little rickety table they made themselves when they were a newbie.
For the Lindens' sake, I hope what they're getting is not merely the same customers adding a pied a terre or "summer home" in Bellisseria, but brand-new customers, either people who have been in SL but never had a premium, or even totally new people from outside. You do get those occasionally.
Recently with one of my RL projects involving people on various continents I was going to suggest a virtual SL office instead of struggling with Skype which always falls out, always sends you a cumbersome new patch to put in just when you have a critical conference call, always creates problems for somebody in the group, etc. And please don't tell me to go on Slack which I've had to endure for some jobs and which seems to eat up your computer. But as I thought about it, I thought it was too weird to suggest to people who have little or no experience with virtuality, or weren't even on Facebook. Not everybody in the world is a gamer. If I got past the hurdle of their thinking I'm insane for suggesting a virtual thing, and I got them all ramped in, I'd still face the Skype equivalences -- lag, somebody not able to see or sit down, somebody in a country with poor Internet, etc. etc. We're not there yet. But I wish we were because we could save a lot of money.
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8 hours ago, ChinRey said:
Yes but please note that I specifically said they weren't Victorian in the European meaning of the word. I'm perfectly aware there is a similar US style that goes by the same name.
Also, note that I did in no way criticize the houses or their styles. Somebody commented (probably more as a joke than as a complaint) that the name of one of the houses didn't really fit since it's named after an author who lived before the Victorian time. I only pointed out that if that was the case, so were the other houses since they are distinctively American whilst the authors they are named after were all Eruopean.
Yes, the Lindens could have given them 19th century American names like the Hawthorne House, the Thoreau House, the Lovecraft House even, but they didn't. Well, maybe they will tell us their thinking on this.
Meanwhile, I put out my carriage stone -- well, temporarily for this photo as the yards don't extend to the curb. What is a Victorian House without a carriage stone?
This is like what we used to have in one of our RL houses and it's still there I see more than 50 years later, and itself must have come from the 1800s.
I'm kind of stumped on the furniture which of course is going to be pretty outrageous with a mixture of 19th century and 20th mid-century, but in fact in RL that's what it was, those heavy -- massive -- chairs, the worn body Brussel rugs, the chenile rep curtains, I think they were horrors even when brand-new.
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3 hours ago, LittleMe Jewell said:
After logging in really late in the evening to check the forums and then seeing that they had done a large release, I popped over to my land page and there are still Victorians available - 8 hours now since the release. The land page is even showing me Trads and Houseboats.
I went ahead and grabbed a Victorian, but mostly just wanting the content pack. I'm not sure whether I'll keep it or not, regardless of what the location looks like. I did see Patch's post from a few hours ago about abandoning though, so I'll go ahead an hold it until sometime tomorrow.
So do you think the Lindens reached saturation point with these? I lost one tenant who had previously donated tier today who fled for the Victorians although she frankly admitted that she would likely be back when she got bored with the LHs, as she has done before. I have another one getting an LH but keeping her rental as an alternative. I have to say, being in a house that I can't edit, i.e. tint, remove prims, cut up, etc. is a little creepy to me. I guess the trade-off is that the landscaping and overall look is good and my God, the Lindens are even going to police your Christmas tree if you leave it up one day over the line.
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2 hours ago, Chic Aeon said:
LOL. Well "I" can't up the enthusiasm since I don't have one but I bet there are others that will find "products" to add. Some interior walls would still be good for wallpaper. Those dark dark colors against the white white trim are not working for me, but again --- not my house :D.
Yes, they cry out for some of that ornate bird or flowers Victorian style wallpaper. My aunt who lived to 107 had revolutionary-era wallpaper in her house which helped it get historic status.
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5 hours ago, Chic Aeon said:
I am sure that some will be moving AND already have. But just like the original traditionals (not so much the later region stylings ) there are some sims that are very pretty and others that are very very boring with little landscaping at all and NOT welcoming. Hence I suspect that was all the releasing of homes just by regular folks -- not the catch and release (find my perfect spot) crowd. And the server went down down down :D.
They are definitely bigger with the Hardy the biggest I think and could be difficult to furnish in a semblance of Victorian style (that prim and space to fill ratio). The plants inside the mailbox are very nice and 1 or 2 li depending on size. The hydrangeas are the best "value" I think design wise.
The only thing that I don't like about the Victorians is the exterior siding. So not the tones that I think of with Victorians and too much like the Tradtionals. My friend with a Vic isn't thrilled with the siding either but I am not sure I am willing to make an exterior shell even for her LOL. The Hardy wouldn't have been so difficult but she is now in the one with the round turret and after dealing with the unroundness of the trailer interior I am not sure I am willing to go there. I guess as a 'long time BFF" I should at least try. If I can get the round part the other is certainly doable IF NOT FUN AT ALL.
The good thing really is that the houses do have a big footprint so that there is less landscaping involved. Will see what she (and perhaps another friend that doesn't make mesh) wants -- but definitely not as much "need" for add-ons as with the tradtionals. In my book anyway.
That's exactly why I didn't go for the Hardy because I thought especially if I used my "SL antiques" with higher prims it would be half empty and couldn't be furnished plausibly.
I wasn't wild about the siding, but I was more upset that there is no "flamingo pink" for the trailers. No pink at all. And it's not on edit mode so you can't take "cream" and tint it pink. Sad.
I liked the bird baths in the packages. Landscaping is my least favourite thing right now so I may leave it as God and the Moles intended.
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You need to buy your own land to avoid all the problems you have cited. Rentals are cheaper, but owning your own land has certain advantages. It might mean your fairgrounds are smaller, but they are your own and you can't be ejected from them because the landlord didn't pay tier. It's a buyers' market where you can get land very cheap, entire sims, off the auction even for half a Linden per meter.
It would be best if you bought THAT abandoned land in Schizura for $1/m directly from the Lindens because your rides are there. File a ticket with support and do that, and don't look for others to make your dream and pay for your dream -- you truly will get more satisfaction of building your dream when you pay for it yourself.
The Lindens will indeed return the builds from abandoned land but they get busy and it doesn't always happen at once. But it will.
As to your request here, I personally would not be interested in providing anyone land for free or even for rent to put up fairgrounds. Why? Because I have a small one of my own already in Baileya called "Coney Island of the Mind". I don't need more. It's a lot of prims, and the reality is, very few people every come on the Ferris Wheel or Bumper Cars or Slides, although they do work the fortunes and the merry-grounds sometimes. But then the rentals around the sim are what get the tier paid -- otherwise, I wouldn't have this. Tier needs to be paid and if you can't pay for it, do less, or go to Open Sim (although the problem there is that there are few people to see your build.)
But more to the point, I'm acutely aware of the years my friend Clubside Granville spent building and maintaining a large and attractive fairgrounds with rides on the Moth Continent (Hetero- etc.) I used to rent a store from him to help supported it because he put tier in my group for a fishing village nearby. He and I and others did everything to promote that area with rids and shopping and food and dancing, and he tried to get the tier paid with store rentals and sales of content, but *there just was not enough interest in fairgrounds to sustain that business idea*.
People don't want to go to fairs in SL. There are a lot of reasons for this. The rides are not that compelling in a world where you can fly; they can be laggy; and people have other interests.
The Lindens compete with you on this front with their Fairgrounds in Pyri that have a very compelling game/quest.
But again, even if you build a 512 flea circus, the sense of pride and accomplishment you will feel from paying your own way will be worth it. Make rides for sale as one way to get tier paid.
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On 12/8/2019 at 8:58 AM, ChinRey said:
It's not Georgian either.
But maybe we should stop this digression here because it doesn't really matter. Those houses are made in an all American style that stands well on its own. They don't need to borrow feathers or names from a different style from a different culture.
I only wanted to point out that since the houses themselves aren't based on architecture from the time and nation Queen Victoria regined, there's no reason why the names should be.
I lived in several houses just like these in upstate New York as a child. Here's one of our houses, below.
The style of those particular Victorian houses in those small towns is often the one called "Queen Anne". (It has nothing to do with the actual era of the reign of the British Queen Anne but indeed copies European styles and arguably doesn't "stand alone" as much as you think). The porch was a vital institution for such small towns. Everyone used to sit out on the porches every evening and "visit", as the expression was, a verb that meant not just going to see someone but then chatting with them. You had to run the gauntlet of all kinds of old ladies who sat out on the porches all day and minded your business for you. But the porch was a good solution for keeping up with people that you might not want to invite into your home as such or feed supper to, but still wanted to associate with for neighbourly reasons or business reasons. Like Second Life.
Or these houses can be the style called Eastlake or even Greek Revival on the Main Street. But it strikes me the Lindens mainly used the Queen Annes for models.
If you use Google Maps to walk around Penn Yan, where a lot of these houses can be seen, you will feel as if you are in the new Bellisseria, truly, especially up and down Main Street. They were single-family dwellings in the 19th century but multi-family rentals for working class and poor in the 20th -- you will see how they have now been restored and re-painted by wealthy doctors and lawyers who have purchased them often as summer homes (the famous Finger Lakes are nearby).
I would say that they are not as ornate as the ones I am seeing here referenced from Great Britain. There may be practical reasons for this but these are towns on rivers and the Erie Canal with lumber where getting construction materials weren't an issue as much as other areas. But the severe winters with heavy snowfalls and muggy summers might make ornate wood trim become a problem.
And yes, the Lindens used real-life houses and it's more than fine to compare them to RL houses. They are going for a certain type of nostalgia of small town America that isn't the sprawling "Little Boxes" suburbia but different, more "community" oriented. Fantasy houses are what they made around the hub called Elder Glen. I don't see that they would go for a "fantasy" Victorian, and if they did, it would be more Gothic, which also has a fan base in SL.
I could note in RL these houses often had carriage houses in the back and I see Barnesworth Anubis has a carriage house on offer which is very similar to the RL ones that went with such houses.
@Chin Rey re: "Yes but if you want to go that much into detail, the houses aren't victorian either - not in the British/European meaning of the word that is. It's an all American 19th century colonial style so if they wanted names that mathced the style precisely, they would have gone for American, not European autghors."
In fact, they *are* called Victorian in the US and that's why the Lindens, who are headquartered in the US, used the term. Words can change their meaning and connotation when they cross the ocean even with English. They are Victorian, not Colonial, which is a very distinct time and style in the US, and not this one. This is the term used about them in the US. Look at the Zillow ads and such for example by Googling and you'll see that is indeed the term used.
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On 12/5/2019 at 12:41 PM, Chic Aeon said:
I can't believe there isn't a post on this yet, so I will start one.
You can visit the new "reveal" build here: http://maps.secondlife.com/secondlife/Linden Reveal/115/157/22
Four styles with interior room changing colors. Some GORGEOUS landscaping. And yes, those funny doughnut shapes on the map were cobblestone streets.
I took photos for those at work (LOL) who just can't wait. You can find them here.
This should be really fun to watch.
These are more spacious than the first round of Belli houses, that's for sure, and when people see them, maybe they can concede that. I wonder if we will see people fleeing from their first Belli homes to these because they have more space and the landscaping is nicer.
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I think it's about object occlusion as noted by Kyrah but what you mention could be an issue. How can you see the number of polygons in a thing? I forget how you do that.