Prokofy Neva
-
Posts
7,950 -
Joined
-
Last visited
Content Type
Forums
Blogs
Knowledge Base
Posts posted by Prokofy Neva
-
-
On 11/19/2019 at 8:58 PM, Tarina Sewell said:
Why is it you think that there are so many bdsm and gor players in sl?
Because there is no free press inworld or on the forums.
With a free press, you could report on violent and terrible behaviour freely, and call out people and businesses by name, which is not allowed on the forums.
You could copy chat and publish it.
These are basics that would be required to raise public awareness and consciousness about reprehensible activities such as "capture roleplay" or worse. It shouldn't be socially acceptable to simulate rape.
-
1
-
-
42 minutes ago, Tari Landar said:
There is a myriad of ways to advertise for free. Charging for one method does not, to me, sound like a punishment, just a piddly revenue stream that probably won't amount to a whole lot of revenue. I'm not a premium member either, so if I had to pay $50L to advertise an event, and I could not afford that amount-or even didn't want to pay it, I would use the free methods available to me both inworld, and out. I find a lot of useful, fun and interesting things to do that way, even just through looking at profiles and doing searches (mostly through searches, inworld and out).
Charging residents for advertising, as LL does in different methods already, is a means for them to make money, they always have been. Every single way LL charges us for something, is a means for them to make money. I doubt anyone could reasonably say otherwise, it's a basic tenet of business, really. Don't have to like it...but, you also don't have to use advertising methods that charge. Some of the places in events would stand well on their own without the event listing, as someone else suggested. They may even get more visitors, imo, by avoiding the event calendar until the dust settles, or permanently. They might not too, but I think it's worth a try, and won't cost anyone anything, which may well make it easier for people who really don't have the $L to list multiple events each week.
It would be nice if LL could find methods to bring in revenue that didn't come from residents, but I think that's an unrealistic pipe dream, at this point in time. LL doesn't have a good track record in that department.
I don't think the Lindens "make money" as such from events, formation of groups, or any other inworld charges, like texture uploads. Those are what are known as "sinks" in the monetary system, they merely take money out of the supply. In theory, if there are more sinks, the value of the Linden dollar rises as the money supply is tighter.
But I gather the Linden fees paid on the MP are revenue, and not sinks. But perhaps a Linden could confirm this.
-
22 hours ago, Jaylinbridges said:
If I want to find an entertainment event, I first UNCHECK ADULT, then search Nightlife/Entertainment.
If I want to find Live musicians only, not DJ's, I first UNCHECK ADULT, and then search Live Music.
I do not see this spam problem if I UNCHECK ADULT, and search a specific category.
Do you get my drift here? If LL wants to get rid of the spam, either remove the Adult Category, or charge $1000/listing for Adult listings.
And if they all move to Moderate, remove their accounts. Actually anyone can avoid most spam by searching with the right filters.
All this extra charge for G and M rated events will do is reduce the number of legitimate G and M rated events.
Yes, it might have made more sense for the Lindens to charge adult events more, or admit that many "events" are merely sales opportunities sometimes not even with the "event planner" present, andthen charge specifically for sales events, then maybe Live Music could have been left alone.
But...If you don't have $50 or $100 to pay for a live music event every day, and can't get that back in tips to the venue or musicians, then maybe you shouldn't be in the live music business. Or just make a group and IM your group members.
I am really looking forward to reading the events list again if it cleans up. I stopped looking at it literally years ago, it's a morass.
-
2
-
-
15 hours ago, Red52 said:
Hello- I currently am renting a parcel on Mainland. Yesterday, I tried to change my Premium membership back to Basic but got an error message that said I 'must relinquish owned land before I can downgrade membership.' Questions: 1) Can you NOT rent or buy any Mainland parcels unless you have a Premium membership?; 2) What are the differences between Buying, Renting, and Owning?; 3) If you Rent a parcel, are you considered as Owning it?
Thank you for your help!
Red52
Technically, we're all renters here, even those of us who buy sims directly from LL and then pay tier and rent them out to others, or those who buy private islands and homesteads and "sell them" (really rent them, because they can seize them back any time) to others.
You don't need a premium account either to rent on the Mainland or rent or "buy" on an island -- it's all done without the premium. The premium is only if you want a Linden Home or to own land on the Mainland.
It's cheaper to rent on the Mainland from rental companies or another resident because you aren't paying the $11.99 premium per month and other costs (sometimes a house or skybox cost if they are provided), and they will have a bulk discount and typically a group 10% discount so they can give you a much cheaper price and/or more prims per parcel.
Private islands are usually more expensive to rent or "buy".
Rentals have all kinds of levels of rules or freedom, some with no rules, some with a few rules (like in mine, you can't have a security orb except in the sky above 500 m) and still others with heavy theme or RP or community rules. It's a renter's market, you have a vast array of options to choose from. Look for those that are refundable, usually for a small fee so you aren't locked in for a month until you settle on what you like.
-
1
-
-
22 hours ago, Pussycat Catnap said:
Do you run that as a mall or in a grouped up area?
If so... basically a mall like used to be common before xStreet became Marketplace - that's a service you could start looking to leverage... "get a stall here and people can find it"... something we all needed back before Marketplace... and anyone looking to leave Marketplace is going to need again...
The stalls are both together with a mall, which I prefer to call a "plaza," which might have a dozen or so stores, and also just on a boardwalk, where there might be only a few stores or no stores.
Yes, people used to rent these stalls merely to place their XStreet boxes because they had to be out inworld someplace and not everyone wanted to rent land.
Perhaps they might want a stall or store now if leaving the Marketplace, but I tend to think people leaving the Marketplace due to the 10% cut will leave it for good. Especially if they made the migration from inworld store to MP and didn't do so well.
It seems things sell better on the MP; certainly gatchas do, because you can leverage search. Yes, serendipity inworld helps, and certain things, especially houses I should think, just have to be seen inworld before a purchase. But I just don't know. It's always hard to tell because we don't have enough information. I have closed one mall in the last decade because it was in PG which is always hard to fill. But I like them. I think they are needed.
-
2
-
-
3 hours ago, Pussycat Catnap said:
Many brands simply can't manage with an inworld store.
If you're not a major brand - how do people find you inworld?
MAYBE we will see a return to malls - that would help small brands.
But otherwise only the large well known brands can pull off an inworld location - a benefit they've always had and which many use.
I think for smaller brands, the return of malls, hunts, lucky chairs, and so on will be needed if they want to have any non-MP presence. And then... you need to big enough that 4.999% of your sales pay your land tier, or it's still better to stay on MP.
I have no idea what this percentage is that you've invoked, but a store in my rentals, for example, if they paid, say, $700 for 850 prims and got 10% discount for 4 weeks in advance, they would have to sell past the $2520 for the rent -- and they do, often by just selling a few of their more expensive products.
They can also be in a $25/50 stall and do it that way and have less of a cost.
-
8 hours ago, Rya Nitely said:
So, is this what you're saying - No matter what negative change LL throws at us we should deal with it or quit? In other words are you saying shut up? The day people shut up and stop voicing their views (and that day is coming), that simply means apathy, and that's not healthy. I think even LL want to hear from us. They start worrying if they didn't. Because when your customers are not happy but they stop complaining that's not a good sign.
They've been slowly pushing the exchange rate from 247 to 257 over a couple of years and people made a huge fuss in the past, but the recent moves, nobody bothered to say a word, just quietly watched it move.
Well, you might get what you want - perhaps merchants will shut up before too long.
Yeah, Alyona must be a fan of Ayn Rand.
How much putting up and shutting up does she do?
I see nothing wrong with bitching about the change of the exchange rate and asking pointedly if this is a function of Linden Homes and trying to get people to feel like their Lindens are cheap so they can buy all the add-ons for the Lindens homes made by the Lindens' friends.
Oh, and as Qie pointed out, the cheap currency flooding in from all those stipends attached to the premium accounts. So thanks! Linden Homes has been swell for the economy -- the Lindens' economy, not just those in the inworld economy.
-
2
-
-
3 hours ago, Chic Aeon said:
Personally I would LIKE to see a move back to inworld shopping and "malls" (NICE MALLS NOT TACKY MALLS). Maybe malls where each creator had a new special item for that month --- sort of like a permanent event but with extra shopping possibilities right there. Would it work? Who knows. Shoppers are fickle folks and often lazy. Many when given the opportunity to view a demo don't bother. If someone wants to try, I am willing to build (without a ton of "move the tree over there and darken that brick) as part of the mix. I do NOT want to have to RUN it however LOL. NOT FUN.
And @Prokofy Neva is WAY off on the cost of events. Even third tier events run around 900 or 1000, second tier events 1500 to 5000 and I have no idea what the "top" events costs. These are just for regular booths. Being a sponsor can easily double or triple the cost.
Even now when many events are struggling and a preponderance of creators seem to be churning out the same thing (new buttons placed in new spots, higher collars, different patterns and the like) month after month some folks are still making money. You need to have a good product (hopefully a LITTLE different than what it is already out there -- or at least better LOOKING) and you need to pick your venues carefully.
The bottom line for many creators is covering their expenses and hopefully ENJOYING themselves. If either of those disappear, it is likely they will also. With all that has been going on with The Lab this year (and certainly lately) it is good for us as citizens to remember that THEY still need to be here in order for US to still be here. :D.
So let's keep that in mind as we move into 2020.
No, I'm not "way off" on the cost of events, dear. I am describing the lower end of merchant events that *I myself take part in*. Imagine, there is such a thing! I make stuff, and take part in events, even some "famous" ones. So I'm reporting what *I pay*. I write about *what I know*. And I don't think these are "third tier" because one of them is on Seraphim. The price is $1000 as ordinary merchant and $1500 as sponsor on one, for example. But another one is only $400 and yet another is $500. I guess they're beneath you. We could have a debate about what "first tier" and "second tier" is. But it doesn't matter. $500 or $1000 is the minimum, and it goes up.
Sure, the very top events probably pay more like $5000. But we don't know because they don't openly tell you their price and it seems a closely-guarded secret. I wouldn't be surprised if that is the fee for the most crowded, popular events, however. And I don't doubt that after only two people play the round of 20+ at Epiphany, say, to get the prize, that the merchant makes back what she put into it and the rest is gravy.
I don't doubt the top tier make money but then they get fatigue. There are too many events. They come too frequently. All along the way, they harangue the merchants with all kinds of rules and reprimands and intrigue and it gets really tiresome. I am near to done with it myself, with most of it.
My feeling about the Lindens isn't one of gratitude because I pay them. I am not grateful to my phone company or electric company. I appreciate them. I appreciate that they function better than their counterparts in Russia.
-
1
-
-
12 hours ago, Alyona Su said:
This is already the case - the minimum tier of land-use fees is 512. These people who have less that that for any particular virtual parcel have multiple locations of likewise tiny parcels that add up to the minimum 512 already, and more often a lot more than that.
But isn't what he is saying that *per sim* it will count as 512, i.e. they can't spread their microparcels all around with the one 512.
-
2 minutes ago, Chic Aeon said:
The account wasn't canceled back then. And she did actually write to support but got no answer. This mostly about trying to bid at auction (back when the auctions were the old style). Then "amazingly" everything was "as it should be" once the one month was over. That's all I can say as that is what happened. Plenty of things don't happen as they should and I do see folks all the time saying that it DOES work the way it should. Just not in that case. Hence leery. It doesn't matter as no one wants to do anything with their tier anyway except the one gal who paid her membership ahead this Summer and has another year of premium now.
Well, no. Plenty of things don't happen "as they shouldn't"; this one thing happened which you are describing, not many. That's not just nit-picking, it's merely pointing out that you can't extrapolate, even if you have "this impression" that there are "lots of other cases".
I could note, for example, that a number of times I simply didn't get the auction to work. I thought I had bid, and even had the highest bid, and in fact it wasn't registering. So yeah, stuff doesn't work. But the reason I am objecting to your portrayal of this is because you are modifying your behavior and waiting a month to do something when ALL YOU KNOW is that: one person didn't get the auction to work. That's it. That's really all you have the facts about.
And yes, I've found the auction doesn't work. But it does work in general because you see all this land selling.
But taking tier out and having it immediately available -- that is something that generally works.
Abuse reports "go nowhere".
But I have never known a ticket about land or your avatar to go "unanswered". It might take 3 weeks to answer. You might have to add a comment and try to nudge them. But they do answer.
-
1
-
-
On 11/11/2019 at 3:37 PM, Lindal Kidd said:
I agree with Jules. I haven't been to Frank's in a long time; I was protesting their policies by withholding my checkbook. But they were one of the first ballrooms I ever experienced in SL, and, to my mind, one of the best ones in terms of build quality and dances provided. Another historical landmark we must say farewell to.
What are these policies you protested?
-
4 hours ago, Chic Aeon said:
Thanks. Knew about the past month stuff.
LAST time any of us did this "group to private" thing, the person that left the group, took out their donation. BUT they were not able to buy land, bid at auction or get a Linden Home for a full month (exactly) AFTER they left. So sometimes the "theory" and the "practice" don't coincide :D. That was actually a better plan in my eyes than charging the remaining officers the amount of her tier (7 US I guess now).
What I (we) are doing this time is waiting a month before taking out donation so that no one gets charged. It isn't a huge amount but I cannot pay with lindens or cash in lindens (Tilia) and have no desire to pay out of pocket when that hasn't been the case in -- well ever.
Our plan may not be necessary but I have seen too many folks caught on this kind of thing. Sometimes the rules change when we are not looking. Sometimes the rules are not clear. So mid month NEXT month folks can go on their way. Only one is interested in a Linden home and the others are going back to basic soon. I used my personal tier on a Linden Home and will keep that until I go back to basic in the Spring OR I will keep it in case they decide to let us pay from membership with Lindens (possible but who knows how likely).
Thanks for the comment!
Well, it isn't just "theory" that doesn't work; it *doesn't* work that way. I have alts that sometimes put in 1024 when they need to because a tenant has pulled out; when they pull it out it is available and they can put it in another group, or take land as an individual and sell it; or cancel the premium (and there, once you *cancel the premium* even though your account isn't over yet, you can't use the 1024).
I have literally done all those things recently; got a Linden home and abandoned it; immediately applied that tier to a group; taken that tier out of a group and put it on land as an individual to sell as an individual etc.
So the question is *whether you canceled the premium account*; if you didn't, that 1024 is available immediately to be used elsewhere. If somehow it isn't, you shouldn't be waiting months; you should contact support because something isn't working right. So it's expected behavior that canceling the premium, you immediately lose the use of the tier. But merely withdrawing from a group doesn't mean there is some "waiting period". I have never seen that. So you need to get support to fix that.
Occasionally I will see an account of mine that says I have 512 free. But I know I don't have it free; it's taken, in a group. So why is it saying that? I've even asked Lindens, and they don't know, but assure me that no, it's not available if it is in a group. Yes, you have to refresh the page and re-log. You will not see it available without those two actions. But there isn't any mandatory month-long period, truly there isn't. Yes, there are glitches as I just explained. But this is not normal and not required.
-
1
-
-
1 minute ago, Adam Spark said:
While I, too, don't like EVERYTHING about this, I think some things are going unnoticed. Lets break this down:
Premium only for last names? Ok. That should satisfy SOME of the folks who asked for it. Not great (and I'm premium, I just care about the community and think beyond how it effects me), but its a start. Contest with albeit limited giveaways of free name changes to anyone is a nice compromise.
A premium feature that has to be paid for additionally, however? Alrighty then.
Marketplace commissions are going up. Ok I get it. But did anyone notice at all that listing enhancement fees are being reduced? Besides, this is the first time this spike has occurred. Prices of everything go up. Without exception. Thats life. I'm amazed this hasn't happened sooner, and we should be grateful. This is a business, folks.
Having to pay for event listings. My initial feeling was mixed, but now that I see 10L for premium and 50L for basic, I'm thrilled. This will undoubtedly curb spam. I just hope initially it doesn't make it harder to convince venues to post their events when we are now asking them to pay for it. Eventually I think venues will bite when they see how clean the events calendar will become.
The ability to follow event hosts sounds good, but I would suggest it should allow us to follow SLURL's instead, because of host turnover. I don't want to miss out because JaneDoe doesn't work at Club X anymore.
A personal events calendar? A news feed? Potentially huge.
Charging to list events like you charge for ads in land or making a group or whatever is really a brilliant and overdue feature and I do hope it will get rid of the gadzillion of spam events at which the event "planner" isn't even present as they are merely glorified ads to sell stuff.
I'm all for ads to sell stuff, and we don't have enough capacity for this in SL.
But because we don't, it bleeds into other venues like events or 16 m parcels.
The Lindens tried to wrangle events in the past at oldbies' behest who hated commerce and hated new people doing commerce, and they took a very punitive approach. They revised this with a notion that yes, you can advertise a new product you made or a new condo development as an "event". That is now abused, of course.
$10 is not really enough to restore sanity. I think $100 might so clean up the events list that it might finally become usable again.
-
1
-
-
15 minutes ago, Tari Landar said:
Sometimes I can't tell if you're being serious, or not. I suppose that's one of my many flaws. I'm going to pretend you're being funny (if you're not, I don't apologize, lmao)
Some of the changes they are proposing (I would never say promising..I know better, lmao) are things people, not just forumites, have been asking for, for years. I respect that LL may want to implement some of them, especially ones that are relatively easy(since the coding already exists and is in use and would require very few changes at all, literally a couple words changed and copy/pastes, super simple).
I just think it's stupid as hell for them to do anything at all with the MP until they address the current major problem. It's not even putting the cart before the horse...the horse hasn't been born yet and the cart's still a tree in the forest.
I'll still use MP, still support countless creators and merchants on MP and still help others struggling with problems, especially this one, because it really is 100% out of merchant hands (unlike some others which are a mixed bag or merchant created problems). But I'll still remain vocal about the asshatery, because it's important.
What's that saying.. "don't piss on me and tell me it's raining"...?
Yeah, that's what most changes to the MP (as it stands right now) are, except way more nonsensical. This particular issue is going to be made worse by the changes, not better. I really don't think some people understand just how many merchants, especially outside of these forums, have been bent over on this one without so much as a hello.
What's the major problem? You aren't saying what it is, and proving that it is major.
You can search for things and buy them easily on the MP.
You can sell things on the MP which can be hard if you aren't big and important and have a big ad budget.
-
On 11/14/2019 at 8:34 AM, Chic Aeon said:
I never seem to "get" this so asking again to make sure.
Sold our group land finally.
Now four tier donations go together in the group and only the 400 square meter "bonus" is being used.
Question: Do we need to wait a month to take back our donations from the land group or can three people do it now and not get charged a fee as long as no one buys any land on their own? Last time there was a group change one person left and took away her tier donation but wasn't able to buy any land or bid on auction land without incurring a fee for a month. No one is planning on buying any land at the moment.
So the tier those three folks take BACK would just get charged to them as group owners for the previous month? But they would still have their free 1024 tier allotment so there would be no actually USD charge? There may be one person keeping up premium but the rest are going back to basic --- but not for some months from now.
The person using the 400 meter plot would keep his tier donation with the group for now to cover that.
Not sure why this all makes my head spin, but I am better at it than the other guys. Thanks for answering.
She didn't have a premium account? That 1024 should stay with her as long as her account is paid, and if she withdraws it from a group, as soon as she refreshes the web site page she will see it as available again.
But tier is always billed in advance. So in a month, you are billed for all the tier you used that month, it's highest level, regardless of whether on day 2 of that month, you withdrew tier from a project and didn't use it again.
-
5 hours ago, Therese Tammas said:
Well, actually, in my view, there is more appreciation about mainland...thanks to Bellisseria people realize the value of Mainland and there is a renewed interest in making a beautiful community on Mainland.
Prices are not dropping, in my view. It is still too expensive for the average buyer. You will still see majority of parcels on the map, to be selling for upwards of $70 USD a parcel, and that's for 512 sq meters and 1024s.
Well, you mean coastal properties. Inland, you find prices as low as half a Linden or even .02/Linden as people want to unload the bleakest, flattest, landlocked parcels.
-
9 hours ago, Razzy Riggles said:
I'm looking around mainland at the moment - and yes there are the usual abandoned plots - but I see more and more coastal waterways land at 10L or less p/sqm. I remember see this type of land being 20, 30 heck 50 L p/sqm a year ago. Am I imagining this? If not, what is causing prices to sink?
I've been studying this quite a bit and I'm not sure what you are saying is true.
No one has a computerized ability to fetch all the prices of land on the Mainland and analyze them over time. That is, perhaps Tyche does but she's never put out any report like that.
The reality is, there is a small group of land barons who bought up the best coastal properties and either rent them out at a high price or re-sell them at astronomical prices. And they themselves ensure that those prices stay very high, disregarding even market signals that might tell them otherwise.
It's not a market in any real sense, but it's more like a black market, when a good is artificially made scarce due to government control of resources or lack of a free press to understand prices and economic information.
So what can break such a cartel? Only when the government dilutes the supply, as Linden does by creating Linden Homes with house boats. But the Linden house boats aren't really sailing areas. That is, they are and they aren't. Some people in them just want the water ambience and have parties or sit on their deck. Others might actually sail from them, but they face in the other direction the problem the legacy mainland faces with no Linden void sims, so they have to hug the coast and it gets laggy and crowded.
I think you also have to ask if a $10/m parcel is actually sailable. So often they aren't. They are land-locked, or near other parcels with aggressive orbs, or near ugly builds. So you really have to inspect them and see if you can really sail from them. There are some even for $2/m but they are totally landlocked, i.e. the water is owned by other tenants who can block it at will with "no access" and "group-only" or bans.
Coasts on the original continents like Sansara have never been as expensive as the Nautilus etc ones around Blake. There is sort of a hype and a mystique around Blake which comes from tony yacht clubs making it seem like high society and keeping out the riff-raff. Also, I think the original Mainland has the problems of more ugly builds than the later continents.
A land baron can afford to leave a parcel out at a high price unsold for months and months and MONTHS. Years, even. Because he can sell a few, and still make a profit. Or because what he paid will be more than covered with the sale price, which will also cover his months of tier, likely at a group discount and bulk discount.
Nothing can break high prices except Linden supply; if people decide they will cease renting or buying, they never get enough company, they are always divided, sometimes artificially so.
-
On 11/14/2019 at 6:29 PM, BilliJo Aldrin said:
When I put up my first ad parcel, I apparently broke almost every possible rule there was. Fortunately, someone posted about it in the forums. I saw it, and was able to fix it and make it conform in every way.
Of course it's not possible to make something physically appealing to everyone, but objectively, they all conform to all the rules regarding networked advertising: one per sim, grounded on the land, no higher than 8 m tall, no spammers or talkers, land access public and object set to phantom, among other things.
To the person who posted about not wanting my ugly ad in their front yard, if by any chance it IS mine, contact me and I'll sell it to you for what I paid for it.
I think likely it's the fact that your sign says VOTE TRUMP that people object to it. You could make it as pretty as you like, but it can't fix that basic ugliness. Just sayin'
-
3
-
2
-
-
On 11/11/2019 at 11:52 PM, iamyourneighbour said:
I noticed there are some ancient signs on parcels no larger than 16-64 sqm on mainland particularly next to the roads.
So my suggestion to LL is that entities holding less than 512 sqm total in a sim will count as 512 sqm towards tiers, that way you can boost revenue from groups would otherwise be insignificant in total moneys collected. Say if someone is on premium with 1024 sqm allowance that would mean a wooping 64 microparcels they place ads on. I think it's time for them to pay up for using the valuable space on mainland.That's quite punitive and LL doesn't like punitive. But it's an interesting idea.
I could note it's not just signs, but various surveillance devices that track avatars passing, vehicles passing, land going for sale, or whatever they track. Some trackers are still there even tho their owners don't maintain the site that used to have the tracking info on it any more. If they used their Charter Account for their microparcel empire, we are SOL as far as getting rid of their signs and trackers.
Again, the solution to the ugliness and intrusiveness and idiocy of signs and trackers and billboards is to have the Lindens run a networked ad board service roadside. It will drive most others out of business. The objection to billboards is that they are ugly and therefore people think the Lindens shouldn't run an ad agency. I would submit that we have ugly billboards ANYWAY and Linden designs are usually tolerable if not great.
-
4 hours ago, Pussycat Catnap said:
To preserve a community like this on normal mainland that has no covenant means the people involved need to maintain ultra vigilant control of ownership of all land in and around their community.
- That makes them super insular, and near impossible to join up with.
Finding a plot for sale in East River is close to impossible. I have seen a few, but it's rare. They usually jump in and grab any plot that manages to 'escape' and over the years I think they own all or nearly all of the land there.
It's a great community for those in it... but the walls are pretty high and the gate is solid steel. It has to be... one parcel left on the market for any length of time and one of those land barons would swoop in and put a heart shaped icon on the map or some other atrocity... and the entire thing would collapse...
There are a few rental plots in there... but that's very different from actually being in the community...
I used to think that was true, and generally it *is* true as I have found to my newbie sorrow.
But to my surprise, I stumbled on a community the other day - Therese showed it to me - run by an Italian gentleman which had plots openly for sale. And for a cheap price. And roadside. They must be mad!
-
On 11/14/2019 at 7:48 PM, Bree Giffen said:
SL seems to be tilted toward the feminine. Is that right? How do we make it more masculine? Maybe more pickup trucks. What would you suggest.
Well, you could start by having a greater ability to determine which of the females are actually female. For starters.
-
1
-
-
29 minutes ago, Qie Niangao said:
I don't really care about the rest, but the more they charge for Marketplace listings, the better, especially if it's retroactive. Love to see all that old junk swept to oblivion, and make it prohibitively expensive to make individual listings for every trivial tweak of an item.
As it stands, I'd shed no tears if Marketplace were to simply cease to exist, it's such an unnavigable trash heap now. If this rescues it, cool. If instead Marketplace closes down completely, that'd be fine, too. Maybe they'd replace it with something usable. Or not. Either way it's better without the embarrassment that's there now.
Oh, I disagree. I don't want the Lindens to "clean up" the MP because they don't know what is gold.
One of my favourite things is to search on the term "Soviet" to find absolute gems. Things that no one knows exist.
I have sometimes spent entire evenings with SL friends discussing our "finds" of obscure items on the MP.
Really, someone could make a blog on the weird things they found on the MP and they could fill it every day and keep people constantly riveted.
-
1
-
1
-
-
28 minutes ago, Tari Landar said:
Not everyone who finds flaws in certain aspects feels like LL s completely awful, or anything of the sort.
I give LL props all the damn time, because they most definitely deserve it on many fronts. They have done a lot of truly amazing things, have helped to provide a world that I personally find to be pretty damn magnificent, and continue to improve in many areas where they once weren't all so great. They have always had my greatest thanks for so very many things.
On the MP front, that's a horse of a different color....LL has flubbed up since before they even opened it, and continues to prove, on a daily basis, that they have no damn inkling what they're doing. I really do have no qualms telling them when things are going amazing, it should come as no surprise to anyone that I also won't have any qualms telling them when they're screwing up. Any company that can't accept that, shouldn't be in business, period. Frankly, LL has no damn clue wtf it's doing with the MP, at all, and hasn't, ever. They're making things worse and it's pissing off the very same people they're now trying to get to pay higher fees. I'm not willing to sit by and say that's ok. It's not the amount of the fee that bothers me, because I'm adult enough to recognize these are important parts of business. It is the fact that ANY fee is being proposed at all and that LL thinks lowering LE fees (which, again, few merchants even use, far fewer than ever, lol) is going to appease people given the fact that the longest lasting issue which has grown exponentially recently, is only getting worse (and LL's response is akin to "oops my bad"-when they are 100% the cause for it, not merchants. This issue has literally plagued the MP since before it went live and is not only causing items to be removed but whole sections of stores and even entire stores
That is NOT okay, and LL expecting more from the people they're screwing over left and right, is also, not okay.
People can be grateful for the good things, and not kiss their ass when the bad rears its head. If LL can't handle that.....eh....(though I am certain they an handle it just fine, lol). Well, some of us can, lol.
Well, what is exactly wrong with the MP? It generally works.
Oh, except for those times when LL accidentally unlists ALL of your products. ALL. Which for me is like hundreds, given not only the gatchas but all these little tschotchkes I make. Hey, what's up with that! And then you yourself have to list them all again. There's no "going back in time" as there is on a sim.
The re-delivery page is great because so many merchants either don't offer it or hide it so well in their stores that you buy 10 things before you find it. Oh, I guess that's the reason they hide it, then.
The only problem is that it is SO SLOW. I don't understand why. I do realize that searching for an item I got in 2016 is something I have to "leave and go cook dinner" to execute.
The Lindens listened to all the forums agitation, which isn't representative of anything, really, and now they're going to enable the blocking of limited quantities which are mainly gatchas. Who is going to use it except a few forums' harridans?
I'd much rather they block the textures of certain farm game crates so that you can look for actual textures and items, for that matter.
What's not to like? The MP is great!
-
On 11/20/2019 at 4:33 PM, Qie Niangao said:
The only real risk is that it might warn somebody outside your parcel, but a script can't actually eject or teleport home anybody except on the owner's land.* In theory, a sensor-based script wouldn't necessarily be leaking warnings outside your parcel because the script can always call the llOverMyLand() function to make sure it's only messaging within the parcel, but without looking at the source code you can't really be sure what it's doing. In any case, though, it's also more efficient to not use a sensor and instead use the relatively more recent llGetAgentList() as @Gadget Portal rightly suggests.
Speaking of relatively recent LSL functions, llReturnObjectsByOwner() now makes it possible for a script to remove from a parcel items owned by anybody not on a list, so that would satisfy the desire to "have my friend come over and be able to rez items" without using a group slot. I personally prefer using the built-in parcel auto-return function, but I guess if there's already a security script running on the parcel it wouldn't be all that much more work to occasionally check llGetParcelPrimOwners() for unauthorized rezzers.
Sorry that as a scripter myself I can only answer these things hypothetically, having no idea what scripts are actually on the market.
___________
*For completeness: In the very olden days, some "security" scripts used physical push to get intruders off the parcel, and that could mistakenly apply outside the parcel. I can't imagine any still do that, though.I have to laugh that this has been put in, given the history of what I consider a bug, but Soft Linden considers a feature.
You can set up group permissions so that an ordinary member, or a member with more permissions (like visitor versus resident) can return non-group-set items.
You don't want tenants to return group-set items because then they can return the rental box and other tenants' builds they don't like even within the rules.
Yes, you can devote little 16m parcels to a rental box in another group like Desmond does, but some of us need every prim on the Mainland and don't have that luxury.
You can then have only officers of the group return group-set items, i.e. a tenant whose rent has lapsed.
But if any item is put in share, anybody who joins the open group can then return that item, regardless of whether that group has assigned you the role to be able to return group-set items.
"Share" overrides group rules which it shouldn't unless you believe in forced sharing under communism.
Especially when the Library items used to all come in "share" (now they don't, but old versions still have that default). Some people don't understand "set" versus "group" and set themselves up for griefing and theft by their "share".
In reality, few people who aren't in a circa-2003 furry collective use "share". I could be wrong about that. But "share" is almost always used by mistake, not design. If you want to "share," you have another thing you can do, which is give perms to a trusted friend.
In any event, regardless of your beliefs about "share," it shouldn't override a group-set role and group-set power.
-
1
-
That is NOT okay, and LL expecting more from the people they're screwing over left and right, is also, not okay. 
Facebook
Instagram
Twitter
YouTube
Flickr
Making SL more welcoming to males
in General Discussion Forum
Posted
Any ideology that involves hatred and violence and subjugation of women *should* be condemned, and condemning Gor, BDSM, capture roleplay etc. is a good thing. It's not about me needing a soapbox or even about me, as many people share these views and indeed, this behavior is a crime in RL, like it or not. It's fine to shame people with these violent and criminal views. That's how you maintain civilization. Stalin is the opposite of civilization and himself justified violence and slavery.
A survey of some limited number of people put in a popular magazine doesn't prove anything, and even if there was some rigorous scientific study, it doesn't mean this is something to be encouraged.
I'll go on condemning violence and slavery because these are antithetical to freedom and civilization. Yes, it should be shamed. Deal with it. It's not about being evolved, but backward.