Prokofy Neva
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There are so many annoyances you have to bat away in Second Life.
There's that homing beacon that won't go away after you land -- it's supposed to guide you to the place you clicked on the map, although most of the time you don't need it. Yes, there is a trick to get rid of it -- open up the mini-map and click on it -- but that's not enough. You have to then right click, look for the menu on the right, and select "Stop Tracking".
There's the edit menu that opens up over the very object you are trying to edit -- yes, it does that. Yes, you can push it to the left or right -- it's a tear sheet. But it keeps coming back. There's no way to get rid of it permanently. I know some don't believe this, but it's real, and documented.
There's the glaring object highlight that illuminates all the vertices in a mesh object, to the point that you finally have to turn it off. Yes, then you risk picking up an entire house tthen, when you merely when to pick up a flower off the floor. But at least you're preserving your eyesight.
Leave aside grey squares -- if you wait, they go away. But be sure not to tab out of the window and do something else while you wait -- it won't go away then.
Oh, and the fact that since the new installation, pictures won't save to the drive path that in fact does exist, saying it doesn't exist. Oh, well. There's always "print screen".
But now there are two new annoyances. One seems to be gone in the latest patch; another is back.
When you hover over an object, you get its name (all discussions here reference the regular SL viewer, which should be made to work; I don't use Firestorm and will never use it). Great, you need that object's name! But that's when you *right* click. Lately when you *left* click, you get the hover, too, which blocks the edit tab. You can't go into edit until you re-try several times to get past the stupid hover. This happens regardless of whether you first right-clicked to seek the object name; if you're editing it, chances are you know its name or don't care, because you're editing it. You have to bat it away multiple times. This seems gone now, but boy, what a pain.
Now, there's the "intrusive parcel border line" back again.
This is NOT the line you get if you check "show parcel borders". On group land, that would be aqua. On individually-owned land, that would be bright green.
THIS IS DIFFERENT, and obtains even when you have NOT checked "show parcel borders".
When you go to edit an object, the parcel border intrudes with a yellow-hued line, as you can see below.
Now why would any Linden think that is useful?
Obviously, if I'm in a house I've already placed between my borders, and I'm hanging a picture, I don't need to know the parcel borders. I have a rough sense of them anyway, even if I am just randomly putting around flowers or lawn furniture.
I can't think of a time when I would need the parcel borders to glow up in my face to "help" me place an object -- especially when they render in a foreshortened way. I can't see any way to get rid of this.
It's quite possible in fact this isn't a "boon" a Linden has conceived (although they do that and annoy the heck out of users) but simply a glitch -- but then it doesn't annoy Lindens enough to get them to remove it as it keeps coming back (or maybe never went away).
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On 1/20/2020 at 9:58 AM, Tolya Ugajin said:
You may not gloat, but you sure do take an unwarranted stance of moral superiority!
Due to alts, you really cannot tell much from a person's log-in history. Also, there are LOTS of stores that still sell stuff from the old days (poseballs, eww) - one must think they are either indecently wealthy or else are actually making money off their in-world stores, because it isn't exactly free to run an in-world store. Perhaps their "pathetic" vendors are generating enough to keep their old stores afloat while they created a new avatar for all their super-duper new mush wares. You wouldn't know, and since you don't, you shouldn't draw conclusions.
Nothing "morally superior" about investigating the vicious blow-hards on the forums and finding their super-sad stores. No, they are not getting rich off old pose-balls. I have absolutely no qualms about checking out people who have harassed and harangued me and others for years with all kinds of know-it-all arrogance on topics from traffic to building to lag. Nope, none at all.
It would be hard to believe that somebody would have a modern, productive wealthy alt making bank from their store and also an old has-been alt or main with a pathetic store. But of course, people will contort themselves into any kind of pretzel to make arguments in support of the forums queens.
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On 1/6/2020 at 9:25 AM, Chic Aeon said:
Note that I do not have to "try this" on MY houses as MINE HAVE CORRECT PHYSICS. I have however tired it on MANY houses from various well-known and popular creators and it worked each time :D.
So it is certainly WORTH A TRY for folks that may have this problem. Since there are still long time home makers who don't understand (or care) about physics, then what works for MANY of us --- may come in handy for people having this issue.
Just tried your theory once again -- you never know, and I don't mind being declared wrong on something as vexing as this, if what you say works.
But it doesn't.
I tried rezzing a prim over a floor -- tried different depths -- it was not linked; also tried linking it.
Doesn't work. The mesh bounces.
It seems as if when it is invisible, it can't be found to rez on (although of course in the sky, lots of things will rez on an invisible prim).
So now I have a half dozen houses where this bounce problem is from mild to severe -- some so bad you can't even rez a prim on them, let alone mesh -- and I've tried your solution repeatedly, and it doesn't work.
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Just now, Scylla Rhiadra said:
Well, it certainly would not be against the TOS to do so. But I do find the idea of taking the time and effort to "investigate" someone's in-world presence merely because they've pissed you off on the forums a wee bit over-the-top, if not actually stalkerish. However, whatevs.
You know full well that many creators and merchants use alts to separate their business identities from their personal life in-world. Discovering that Mycoolstore.Resident isn't logging in much tells you nothing about how often the RL operator is in-world.
Nope, that's not the issue at all. In fact some people LIKE to have a recognizable forums avatar that is THE SAME AS the business one so they can attract more attention, in theory. They may not realize it's negative.
It doesn't take time to look up an avatar, TP their store off the back of the picks or profile, and see the traffic etc. It takes a few minutes. You are trying to make an issue of it because you likely know what I'm saying is true.
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On 1/18/2020 at 5:29 PM, Benson Gravois said:
Does anyone know if there is a definitive list of LMs where on can set “home” to?
You can set home on all the Linden info hubs and welcome areas and also on the resident-run info hubs on Linden land or their own land. We maintain the info hub at Ross and also have areas around Iris, Baileya, and Warmouth where you can join the open group and set home.
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On 1/18/2020 at 7:55 PM, Gopi Passiflora said:
I guess it's a habit from playing video games, but I always keep my mini-map open. Not only do I find it useful to navigate the mainland, I also use it to determine where avatars congregate and as a gauge to how busy a place is.
Yes, I use it to see if there are any avatars squatting in my rentals or stalking customers.
It's also vital for direction as the world map is always facing only one way. It can get very confusing. This is why I don't enjoy sailing very much, because you have to keep looking at the mini map versus the world map and constantly reverse course.
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On 1/18/2020 at 7:13 PM, Whirly Fizzle said:
Ingrids Prefabs
Oh, why? I always like Ingrid's prefabs. I still have them. It's too bad she's not in the business any more.
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Flying.
Flying is all well and good in dreams and in SL. I like flying in SL and dreams.
In real life, while it sounds fun and wondrous, even, think of how the sky will be when everyone gets the same idea. Like traffic on roads on the ground, only worse. And inevitably, there will be collisions and "sky rage" and people not finding their way to bathrooms before they fly and a whole bunch of other problems.
It's not as God intended.
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1 minute ago, Scylla Rhiadra said:
This is commendable.
This, on the other hand, is merely stalkerish:
And I'd be curious to learn how you "know" this:
(Fortunately, I can take solace in the fact that you clearly are not speaking of me, as I have no opinions.)
Hardly "stalking" to go to the public business of a public personage on the forums, Good Lord, that's ridiculous to consider it otherwise.
Jeska Linden used to urge people to take their differences in-world and discuss them there, not on the forums. She had an idea people would be more civil. That's not the case, I've found, but whatever.
It's extremely useful and extremely valid to go to a person's place of business and examine their build, their wares, their traffic, etc. -- especially when they are so loud-mouthed on certain issues of the economy. And instantly you will be transformed from anger to pity, I assure you.
It would be another thing to stalk someone to their home, if you could somehow find it, hang around and scope out their visitors or what's on their nightstand etc. That would be ethically wrong and I believe against the TOS if pushed too far.
But certainly going to the place of business of someone who has spouted off about some policy regarding SL is exactly what needs to be done. Especially if you are a blogger on SL issues.
How do I know they don't log on? They are never in their stores. The open groups they are in -- including even their store's own group! -- shows they last logged in ages ago. Not too hard to discover.
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Good question.
For many people on the forums, their game is in fact the forums; they no longer log on anymore.
I log on several times a day to help my customers and spend long hours working on my rentals or creating things or exploring. So I'm not in that category.
But too many of the highly-opionated on here -- whose high opinions start with themselves -- don't really go in SL or do anything there. If they do, they might sit in one spot in IMs the entire time.
I once made it my business to go and visit the shops of some of the loudest mouths on the forums, people who had heckled and harassed me viciously because I expressed opinions different than theirs. And to my surprise, their stores had not changed since the first time they were built -- in 2007. Or 2004! Their vendors were pathetic, and contained things no one bought any more because SL had evolved to other forums. The traffic on their stores was...8. Or "0". I then switched from annoyance to pity. These people had nothing going at all. Some of them had once had thriving businesses, but then changes in fashion or the very materials of SL or changes in policies (against trafficking) put them out of business. And they are frozen in time.
I don't gloat over people who are behind, as I am behind myself, and a very slow learner. But I do have an informed opinion from logging on nearly every day and helping customers and learning of their problems and their joys, what works and doesn't.
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On 1/14/2020 at 1:14 PM, Rufferta said:
Last night I was exploring an historic Mole Build, and I saw this huge sign on the edge of an adjoining sim. When I flew closer to see what the sign was protecting a teleport orb gave me a 15-second warning. It made me sad to think how many new residents, exploring the Mainland, had probably run into something like this. I'm used to it by now.
When I checked for the owner, and started to add a note on their profile, I saw that I had been stuck on a ban line* on one of his properties in Corsica a few days before - again, the owner was within his rights, but this was in a narrow public sailing channel, and the banline (while on the edge of their property) was a few meters from an obvious property barrier. I did IM suggesting that the owner put up a marker buoy, but I'm not holding my breath for a response.
I love the Mainland, and I'm not leaving it, but sometimes I despair...
*experienced sailors probably know this, but I found that I could get out of the banline by editing my sailboat and moving away, then restarting it.
Wouldn't it be great if all ban scripts were effective only up to 16m before the border of the property. Or better yet, 32.
Failing that, wouldn't it be great if people who insisted on having ban lines would voluntarily make a strip of easement around the property if they are on waterfront and then the rest of the parcel they could have their ban lines/orbs -- surely that's sufficient.
In Keuka, someone has deliberately terraformed up their land to block a creek and put access-only ban lines up so that you literally cannot navigate the creek. I asked the Lindens if they would be willing to push down the edge of their land (a steep hill) on this creek to make it navigable, but they wouldn't. And I understand their reasoning -- if they give into one request for Linden land to be changed, they'll have a zillion.
On the other hand, it's their poor terraforming and bordering in the first place that created these waterway horrors. They could have made it wide enough to boat through and not have any of the land in the creek sell to individuals like that.
But since none of this is likely to change, it's portage or do without...
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16 hours ago, Tari Landar said:
You asked why you don't see your own ad, not whether or not impressions actually work.
But I did answer that question as well. No, it does not work, not as it should work, not as current standards dictate it should work, not in the way such activities work on ANY other website out there that was made after 2000. But yes it does work by MP standards, which, are very odd indeed
If by "how do I know it works" you mean "how do I know if anyone is seeing my ad at all?"( your question isn't really clear yet at this point). You'll know by whether or not your stats page for that ad shows impressions. If it shows that you have indeed gotten impressions, then yes, by that token it "functions". Again, not as it SHOULD., but as it is expected by MP standards...which, again, are not normal standards anywhere in the world..so, take that as you will.
I'm not overthnking anything, lmao, I simply know how such things work (regardless of cost, they should only function one way, follow one set of current standards, and not use outdated methodologies, also, this is an oooooooold topic, we've discussed it a lot on this forum over the years). My experience is very much universal if you do as I actually said and scroll through the ads, not merely stay on one page and not allow all the ads to load. Go ahead and try it, go tot he home page, or even the top page of any category that has enhanced listings. Now scroll through them, all of them, now refresh and do it again. Bam, you'll see at the very least some of the very same ads all over again. You might have some new ones, in categories where a LOT Of people buy ad space, but you won't find an entirely new set, at least some will always be repeats. That is how it has functioned since day one, and hasn't changed an iota. Not that it really matters, as I said at the end...it's a worthless endeavor for nearly anyone (and on a personal note, it actually surprises me that anyone even uses enhanced listings at all anymore, but I do suspect some bought it once, or twice and then just have it on repeat, because they've got the funding to do so and never stopped.
But your own experience with never viewing those ads actually answers your own question too, that it does not function as it should (if it did, more of us would look at those ads, lol). That's part of why it costs what it does, because it's so ineffective an advertising method. You're right that such features usually cost a great deal. This one is actually way over cost, imo, given how it works (or does not, as the case may be). Advertising in a virtual space isn't quite as expensive as it is in other places, for other things, but if this were up to current standards, it would definitely cost more (don't give LL any ideas...though truth be told, they'd be complete fools to ever increase this cost, it would be a guaranteed loss of most buyers,)
Through sales...at least, that is how the MP functions regarding that matter. The more sales you get for a listing, the higher up on the page it goes (this has nothing to do with enhanced listings). Views are of course included in that, because people can't buy if they don't open your listing page, lol. But buys are the important factor and enhanced listings rarely, if ever actually lead to many of those sales. Odds are better that the person will see your listing NOT in the enhanced listing spot, but rather on the page when searching or merely browsing, and click through form there.
Like I said...enhanced listings, those advertisements at the top of the home page and on the top pages of categories.....they're all stupid, and a waste of money. They've been that way for ages (look through the threads about them here on this forum if you want more info, but they're pretty boring and say everything I've already said here).
Look, you're pre-set to suspect evil and ill will, and then to antagonize, particularly anything from me, as I've seen before, so I won't reply. Others will understand what I'm talking about and get back to me on or off the forums.
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19 hours ago, Tari Landar said:
It's actually a bit of (very unbalanced, inefficient, and not up to current standards) randomized code that selects which ads to show and when. The code ensures you get the NUMBER of impressions (showings) of your ad, but that's about it. There is no real guarantee of how many impressions per (insert whatever measure of time, other than the full length of your enhancement-which is the only guarantee) or even who will actually get those impressions. Odds are quite good you will never see your own ad, and frankly you shouldn't want to. If you DO see your ad, it's just another indicator of precisely how outdated that method actually is. As Alyona pointed out, that would be a giant fail on their part if you, the person paying for the impressions, saw them-that's one less person to see them. However, the fact that you don't see your own ad, still doesn't mean it's working right, because the coding used for such is not up to date with current standards....you just happen to luck out when you don't see your ad, there's no real rhyme or reason to why you don't.
One problem with the way enhancements work is that there are many, many people who can easily spend hours looking at the MP (for various different reasons), not necessarily in one sitting but even over a period of a day or two. Those people may very well be seeing your ad multiple times in one session. They are each counted as one impression. If I go to the MP right now and scroll through those enhancements, get to the end, refresh my page (or return to the beginning), or even go to another MP page and then return to the home page (or top of a category where there are also enhancements, whichever), I can EASILY see the same ad multiple times. That means I just ate up someone's impressions (unintentionally on my part, of course), so that person isn't even remotely benefiting from those impressions. Odds are damn good I'm not buying from those enhancements, because when I do shop on MP, it's likely for something specific, or at least category specific. I still SEE the ad though, and that's all the algorithm ensures. It's why I don't scroll through enhancements, ever, and try to stay off top pages, because that's just wasted money for that merchant, and I'm not fond of wasting others' money like that (pennies or not).
To make this shorter...enhancements are a waste of money, are not effective, and don't work like most people think they do (even if you get click-throughs), and don't use current standards for such activities in the algorithms and coding. Never be surprised when they don't act the way you think they should....they don't act the way current standards suggest they should, either, lol.
Gals, I don't care about seeing my own ad.
That's not the issue.
Um, I'm not "advertising to myself".
I merely want TO KNOW IF IT WORKS. It's a mechanical question.
Because I don't see evidence that it does. It's not about "wanting" or "wasting one impression," that's silly. It's about finding out from others if it works. How do I know it works if I don't see my ad? Everything else on the MP and inworld works differently. If I post something for sale, I see my page for that item. If I check off the search/places ad inworld, if I search for the name of my store, I see the ad in search. Same for classifieds, which of course also work on some formula where they aren't always visible, but still, I see them.
Not so with the MP -- that's all there is to it.
The entire business of "impressions" -- upon which digital advertising is based -- never impressed me and I don't think that's really what makes sales, except in some theoretical world. Impressions don't make sales, sales make sales. People click through and buy not because there were 1000 impressions and they were one of them, but because you reached them with something they wanted, or your ad sounded compelling.
I'm not going to be buying them again for the simple reason that it doesn't seem worth it, because there are too many people chasing the tiny window of viewability. $799 in fact seems like way too low a price for this tiny window. It should cost 10 times as much, the way the top view does on classifieds. If I spend $1000 and not $10000 on a rental ad, I know I'm not going to get as many views, TPs, and sales. This idea that there is some "fair algorithm" at work that maybe puts me in the queue and in the view sometimes doesn't seem reasonable to me. That tiny, rare window should go to whomever can spend the most money, the end. I won't be one of those people, but at least I know that I haven't been put in the view due to socialistic theory but by market motives.
It seems to me you are overthinking this -- and your experience isn't universal. I've gone to the page, refreshed it a half dozen times, and I don't see the same ad, much less my own. That leads me to conclude that there's an enormous queue of people chasing this window, and therefore it's crazy.
There's also this: I never look at the ads on the main page. Ever. They never have anything I'm remotely interested in. Occasionally, the ticker of things that people actually bought is interesting, if it is furniture or a house, and that I will click on. Perhaps I've even bought things a few times but I don't recall that.
Only search works for sales, not ads. Google knows this, too, of course. The people who buy those ads at the top of the page of search results endlessly annoy me because they never change and I will never go to their stores, even though I have in the past precisely because they are annoying me so tremendously with some really lousy junk that they should know better to be paying money to advertise. It's a mystery why one top creator in particular is putting that discounted junk up there.
So how do you get at the top of search? Obviously one way is by being viewed, it's a self-fulfilling prophecy -- you are viewed because you are viewed. But over time, I tend to think that the best made items in a category float to the top by more purchases. Even so, I will scroll through a bunch of pages because you never know.
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Several times against my better judgement I have put "listing enhancements" for a specific product tied to a holiday or special occasion, on the front page even, for $799, which is a lot of money for me.
Then you get a report showing all the "impressions," which is merely whom it was put in front of, the click-through which are of course much less, and you see the sales on your control panel.
But what I never see is the ad on the front page.
Now why is that?
I look at the front page, I scroll through the offerings, and my ad isn't there -- even a day or two later (and they last 7 days). Then I figure, "Oh, they must have so many front-page ads that they can't show them all on any given scroll, but it probably comes up some other time."
So then when I remember, I go back and check for it -- I never see it.
Of course it's annoying that you have to remember to cancel it before it bills again, and now two ads billed again and I haven't seen them on the front page in 7 days, randomly checking.
I don't mean the front page for a category, I mean the whole front page -- that's what it is, no?
What's the deal?
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13 hours ago, Roseamenelle said:
Hii, so last time i posted on advice on my marketplace and inworld store and did do some of the suggestions told in comments (thank you) but i am still having no sales, and would like to ask for some advice once more if thats ok?: so someone said to flood the keywords with words pertaining to selling product, another suggested lowering the price, and another suggested using my own watermark on my photos in my frames and to put original photo before title, plus put ''in frame'' since i sell nature photography in frames ( all photos are hand taken by yours truly's own camera, not googled), and did most of those suggestions, but still havent made much progress, so i came back here and kindly wanted some advice again if theres anything else that would be good.
looking forward to your advice and thank you in advance ^-^
I think you have a built-in problem in that RL photos don't sell as well in SL as photos of SL. There's something jarring about photo-real that puts people off.
You could consider using your photography skills to take good *SL* photos and they may sell better.
But regardless, to get noticed by the market, you can't just put keywords in search or put a picks on your avatar, you need to go rent a mall so that you will get shoppers to see you, or get into a gallery sim, or get into an event. This takes time and research but that's how it's done.
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Now, if only they would add another filter for those crates that have only a picture of a thing, but not the thing itself.
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15 minutes ago, Maryanne Solo said:
All I know as a complete outsider is Trump and his ->🙀👈🤚 but why did that Pelosi hag drag those children up onto that rostrum that time?
I have child protection certification of the highest order and to me that is outright child abuse pure and simple, NO excuses.
Who would use innocent children like that?This is what I meant by my one side is as bad as the other comment. 🙄
The more pertinent question to ask is which adults -- and did they involve parents -- deployed their children against Pelosi in such an obviously politicized way in the first place.
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8 hours ago, Chaser Zaks said:
I'll say this, I have seen people on both sides of the political spectrum on Second Life, from nicest to the more extreme. Political opinions are like butt holes, everyone has one and they all stink.
However it is important to note, no matter what political opinion someone has, Linden Lab does not endorse or support said opinion. Just because one person is spewing hate, does not mean that Linden Lab supports that. Linden Lab has no control over what users say, but they can punish them afterwards. Controlling what users say would result in censorship/filters which would be very harmful to the virtual world.
From what I have seen, Linden Lab likes to take a very neutral/centristic point of view when handling abuse reports and allowing residents to have a freedom of speech and opinion. However they don't support hate speech, it is important to understand what hate speech constitutes as according to Linden Lab. To do this, we have to look at the Community Standards. In specific, we will look at the "Intolerance" section(This section may change at a later date, please refer to the Community Standards for the most up to date version).
My interpretation of this means:
- You can have what ever opinions you want, be popular or unpopular.
- However said opinions may not be used to attack or belittle groups.
For example, "I think <x group> is going too far with their politics" can be OK, but "Eradicate all <x group>" is not OK. Of course context really does matter in this situation and it is a very touchy situation because some stuff can be seen as offensive to others, while not offensive to others.
The Content Guidelines has additional information which basically says the same thing but worded to legally cover content seen in world.
Additionally, Linden Lab could have taken action, but you just don't see it. Linden Lab treats privacy really seriously, so if someone got warned, you won't be informed. Only the person who has been warned will know and it is up to said user to disclose if they were warned.
The problem with the language LL has in its TOS is that you could either use it to "indict a ham sandwich" or use it to do nothing, or both, depending on a given Linden or a given day or a given workload.
When we had a police blotter, we could build up some sense of jurisprudence. We could see WHAT and WHERE. We could figure out what clubs perhaps to avoid, or certain sandboxes. We could see their "thinking" on things. I could write reams (and have) on what this told us about their mindset, but the operative point now is that they took it down. You can only find it on the Internet archive if you really, really work at it, only for a few dates. It wasn't complete, and that's a shame. A full-time, 24/27 ticker of actions taken on abuse reports in real time would be immensely instructive and serve as a deterrent, in my view. But the Lindens don't wish to publicize this proprietary information any more.
There are certain RP groups that I view as despicable that endorse racism, slavery, persecution, denigration of women, and more. The Lindens leave this alone as "consensual among adults". I think it lowers the whole culture of SL considerably.
@ clivesteel I don't know who Jagix is or what your ARs have been about so I can't tell what your story is.
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9 hours ago, Qie Niangao said:
Yep, I just mute 'em. If only it were so easy in RL.
Granted, that doesn't solve the problem of political signage next door. In one particular case I could get them removed because they're quite flagrantly encroaching on the SLRR, but I figure it would somehow escalate. They're not going to have a sudden blue epiphany just because Governance sends their Steyn/Bork/Levin propaganda back to Lost+Found. Also the parcel is for sale so I suspect they're just "deplorable for profit."
Perhaps you can tell me what exactly the Linden policy/enforcement record is right now. You can't abuse report a Trump sign per se, as is. But if there were more than one on a sim, could you? One on every one of 10 sims in a row? What might work? Encroachment doesn't count, because it could say "We are for a blue sky" and if it encroaches they will remove it. I do wonder specifically about these Trump sign infestations what might be done within the enforcement practices of LL.
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What I find disturbing is how many Trump campaign kiosks are all over SL now, and mainly owned by just one person who runs a rentals business. Just one person can have that kind of effect, and if they don't put more than one per sim, they aren't in violation of LL's rather half-heartedly enforced ad rule. But if they were to cap that world-wide, we'd see less of that and other obnoxious stuff.
What's also sad is that there are few counter kiosks. Maybe there's a Sanders kiosk here or there. But what is really needed is some kind of anti-hate kiosk. But people have also big networks of yellow jacket (French) kiosks that seem questionable to me. As with the "Impeach Bush" guy who defaced SL terribly and didn't really care about politics as much as being obnoxious and pushing Linden limits, I think this attention-getting visual and verbal behaviour isn't necessarily of substance but about other things.
Linden Lab is in the US, and like most Silicon Valley Internet companies, it tends to try to have a First Amendment level of free speech, even though as a non-state actor, it cannot enforce this protection and is not required to offer it, either. Most Internet platforms have TOS rules that are shy of the First Amendment. But for all kinds of historical and lifestyle and idiosyncratic reasons, you might find the Lindens responding more against hate of LGBT than they do hate of Jews or Trumpian white supremacist rants.
One of the ways I have been griefed by a set of very hard-core 4-chan type griefers is by impersonations of me as a "bot" named by my company (I don't use bots at all) and spewing of racist, Trumpkin stuff in groups. This leads to slews of hate mails against me and bans from properties -- that's why it is done. I and others abuse report it, the Lindens can take their time on it, but eventually, those day-old alts are deleted, only for new ones to appear. I think Linden libertarianism and also the overwhelmed AR system contribute to this problem.
One of the problems companies face is trying to define hatred. This shouldn't be so hard as they imagine as there are very well-established UN definitions in CERD and other tready bodies, but in the US, the bar is set high for free speech. And given how rabid and crazy the Twitter far left is on these subjects, that is a good thing, quite frankly.
As I said on the libtech list, I think they should have a ban on racist remarks and of course racist incitement because they are a university, and it is not only unbecoming of a university, but usually universities have their own standards against racism that they should enforce on their lists.
Wearing a MAGA hat is not something you can lawfully qualify as "racism" even in a university sense, and the atrocious disinformation and lies that went out about the Covington boys around their face-down with the Black Israelites and a Native American are a very good indication of that. The media didn't comprehend how the Black Israelites started this rumpus, insulting not only the boys but the Native Americans; Black Israelites have now murdered 6 Jews and an Italian-American policeman in Jersey City. This isn't trivial. Online hatred leads to offline violence and that is why we need to care more about it. I personally believe Trump is responsible for the murder of Jews in Pennsylvania, and attacks on media figures and the escalation of white supremacist violence. But I am certainly not going to let anti-fa off the hook because they have a long history of violence and extremism here and in other countries.
The problem with your post is that it doesn't have definitions or plans but just an overall indignation. It's ok to vote with your wallet even when your sense of injustice is only vague, but frankly, I wouldn't want to put you in charge of deciding what free speech should be tolerated and what is not, because I suspect your views are leftist and narrow on this subject because what you appear to wish is to outlaw all explicit Trump supporters and voters. And you and others do not have grounds for this. A Trump voter can be someone fed up with campus political correctness (with good reason); there are black Trump voters; there are people wearing a MAGA hat because someone merely gave them a free hat; there are workers who lost jobs who voted for Trump who five minutes before that would have voted for Sanders if the left still cared about workers, and so on. It's a very blunt axe to go hacking away at all things with the name "Trump" on them.
I'm a Hillary voter, liberal but not progressive, and a first-term Obama voter and second-term Romney voter who will vote for anyone but Trump. But the task then and now is to persuade my fellow Americans that his policies and beliefs and antics and just overall immoral craziness are damaging not only to liberal values for America and its ideals in general and in practice, harmful to all kinds of people.
THAT is the problem. The various forms anti-Trumpism takes is simply not persuasive; his followers have only doubled down; they have only found new reason to support him as the Democratic Party splits more and more and lurches left more and more. When a left-wing Democrat who wanted to take guns away, who is gay himself and a mayor, is slammed because he fund-raises in a wine-cave, we are doomed. Try to understand that.To accomplish this goal of opposing Trump, I'd rather support protection of refugees and ending of mistreatment of asylum applicants rather than police transgender bathrooms and provide abortion up to birth; I'd rather provide better and subsidized medical care than "Medicare for All" which is an outrageous expense; I'd rather re-join the climate change treaties and re-start the practices of the Obama era than have the "new green deal" which is merely socialism in a poor disguise and so on. And I'm not alone in this in the Democratic Party off Twitter.
I suspect AOC's voters are not likely to vote for her again, because their jobs and medical care and public transport have not improved on her watch, even as she has gone further afield in search of national glory.
The best way to counter Trump is to start alternative groups and movements and support of alternative candidates, not abuse-report Trump supporters which will go nowhere in SL. LL can only shrug at losing your $11.99 per month. But if you started a group or held meetings or bought some microparcels for another candidate, the media might cover you and you might find others to share your common cause.
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9 hours ago, Deepert said:
Hello Linden Labs
I was wondering after all the updates we get if it was possible to update under profile the picks section
as now you are only allowed to have 10 and it would be nice if this section gets updated so it can hold more then 10 say 15? or more
it would be really great
Deepert
I'm so glad you mentioned this. I've been meaning to ask for this, too. I really feel constrained by having only the 10 picks. I can't put all my rental communities in, for example. 16 or 32 or whatever would be great!
However, I bet I can figure out why the Lindens are going slow on this.
There's a system some store owners have where if you put their store in their picks, they will either let you enter a lottery, or give you money, or give you *something*. And so perhaps they feel this is "gaming the system" although I don't think it's as bad as camping is/was. Still, it's an abuse of the original intent, which was really to be for genuine picks.
The reality of "picks" is that people tend not to use them for actual "favourite places". They use them for stories, since there isn't room on the profiles for actual stories, especially if long.
Or they make elaborate things, like their RP preferences, or their rental policies (in my case), or just their thoughts on life. So they are not really picks as such.
Long ago and far away in another galaxy, when we debated about how to keep search from being gamed, I suggested to Philip Linden that he use "picks" not merely "traffic" or searches as traffic was now inflated by paid camping (and today by bots). This was before picks were gamed as much with store raffles.
And I was confident then that I, who refused to use traffic gimmicks, might get higher in search because a lot of tenants would snap a picture and put it in picks, not so much to say "this is my favourite rentals company" but more like "my first kiss" or "home sweet home" or "my RP limits". So each time they did that, it would report my land as the place. Then you would see what people actually cared about. To be sure, this could get inflated, too, if someone merely happened to be in my little rental while they proceeded to use up 10 slots in picks to put in all their favourite poems or rare cat breeds as people can do.
This is called a "folksomy". I tried to introduce this as a device where people could leave their favourite places' landmarks and share them but of course that had the problems of needing to be updated and cleaned out from people putting scammy "business in a box" sales illegally in sandboxes etc.
I'm rather have more picks than groups at this point even though I am out of groups now and forced to keep alts going to have more groups.
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On 1/5/2020 at 8:31 PM, Ardy Lay said:
Yes, this happens. Sometimes I search for a string of random letters to ensure it's all been parsed once before doing a real search. This seems to eliminate the shifting you describe, which occurs when you make a selection while the parsing is still in progress. However, I don't have such a huge inventory now, so my wait isn't very long.
Your talk of double-clicking in inventory to open a folder scares me. I have had a bad experience from double-clicking on a folder. Viewer decided that meant to add everything in that folder to my avatar. It was a collection of things I built during a game the hosts called Primtionary. Not a good experience. The wearing, not the game.
BE CAREFUL OUT THERE!
I totally understand what you mean about that. And yes I have put houses on myself and messed up my clothes. But most of the time, double clicking on a folder only opens it, but doesn't put it on me. And I don't recall if in fact I turned it off somewhere to make it not do that. I have another thing where each log-on puts a system newbie shirt on me I then have to take off, but that's separate (I think).
Your advice about the "string of letters" makes me recall the trick to try to force up lost things -- first clear cache, the re-log and just type "A" then "B" then "C" etc to force it through a relog. That seldom works but it does enough times to make it worthwhile as a thing to do for lost inventory.
So your idea seems to prime the system to make it "settle" better. The thing is, almost any set of random letters with my huge inventory is likely to turn up actual things in a search. So i'm going to try with random series of numbers with a letter that generally will not turn up anything.
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13 hours ago, ChinRey said:
That's interesting. Small and cozy rustic cottages used to be my speciality and I have noticed their sales seem to have picked up again recently. Maybe I should make some larger hosues in that style too (I really only have two). But then again, maybe not. This is hardly the right time to spend time and effort on SL commerce.
I have no idea if I have a large enough sample to really make a definitive comment, but I just note that certain houses seem to work and others fade in popularity. I think you can never go wrong with cottages. TOO rustic and they don't work. Hive, ionic, May, Wayfarer Wishbringer, Post, LAQ tend to work. I'm mystified why Artisan Fantasy's gatcha cabin set doesn't work, but maybe because people don't like to see a bed in an open first floor and want that sequestered or in a skybox. A cabin that has witch/herbalist themes built into it works, the Dragon Magick Wares houses work, but not all. Who knows. I put out something and if it doesn't rent, I am forced to change it, even if it doesn't work. I think you should make larger places because I think that is desirable. If you can't swing a cat in them, people won't move in.
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6 minutes ago, ChinRey said:
Somebody who hasn't figured this out by now is by definition not a good builder.
Ansd no, Prokofy, I mean it! It doesn't matter how fancy (and laggy) their texturing is, if they haven't figured out the basic craftmanship of 3D modelling for SL, they are not good builders. As Chic said, it took a while for people to figure it out - it's not as if LL ever documented their mesh hacks after all - but today it's a noob mistake no self respecting content creator would dream of making.
Sorry to hear that. I have to take back everything nice I've said about the Moles then. They're rubbish.
The message to all mesh modellers who can't be bothered to make proper physics models:
LEARN THE CRAFT!!!
Yes, I did notice it in some rooms in the Victorians. But not in the campers. Which gave me hope.
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Posted · Edited by Prokofy Neva
1. The beacons do not require just mere clicking, as anyone who goes online in fact and doesn't stay on the forums will discover. Others report to me the same thing. You have to additionally check "stop track" or it remains, even when clicked.
2. The edit window blockage issue doesn't only affect me; that's not possible. I have an ordinary computer and regular SL viewer, so that means it affects others. They just don't edit, so they don't notice. That would include Lindens.
3. Um, if you shut off the highlighting, when you click on an object, even paying rapt attention, you might miss it and pick up something else. That's why highlight exists in the first place. Most objects in fact ARE mesh and many of them ARE dense, when you are decorating houses. The end.
4. No, the solution is not to "shut off" hover tips, as you need them. The solution is not to have them interview with "edit". If an action generated by right clicking does one thing, there is no need to have it recur from left-clicking.
5. Once again, as I explained, this is NOT NOT NOT related to "show property lines". Because -- wait for it! -- they are shut off (since they are annoying, too). This is an EXTRA highlighting of the parcel that is not in the regular list of lines (and you can tell them because -- as I pointed out -- it's a different colour). The end.
There is no large group of customers who want a line thrust in their face because they were tired of "guestimating". For one, most people aren't doing this. For two, something that renders foreshortened and disrupts the view isn't helpful. I suspect Whirly will be along in a minute to explain this is a glitch.
I see you are still residing at the center of the universe. Must be cold -- or hot -- there. Back on block you go.