Phil Deakins

It doesn't matter what the mass of other virtual worlds are like, or what embellishments they add, it's the size of the population that matters. When one of them starts to grow significantly, and concurrency is in the thousands, then SL may have some competition but, until then, they are all just hobbies for their owners.

Probably just 2 or 3 for me - soon to be one more as my current one is playing up badly and sometimes won't stay on for more than a few seconds. I have a laptop as well, and an older one that's fine, so I won't be stuck.

A family friend introduced me to SL. As soon as I was created, she TPed me elsewhere so I didn't go through the "pleasures" of Orientation Island. I was only checking SL out to see if it was going to be interesting enough to buy a suitable graphics card, which I did soon afterwards. Until I got it, all avatars were black - silhouettes - although everything else was as it should be. So nothing interesting, I'm afraid.

Thank you for your suggestions folks. Someone (LucyBomb) IMed me with the solution. Right clicking an outfit folder and clicking Replace Outfit worked a treat. I'd never even noticed that option before

In all the years I've been in SL, this has never happened to me before, and I've no idea what to do to get out of it. I'm hoping that someone can help. When I log in, I'm a cloud and I stay a cloud. Rebaking turns me into a naked Ruth. I've cleared cache and tried rebaking again but it still turns me into a naked Ruth. How can I get out of it? Info: I can't put any clothes on because the system won't let me until my shape and clothes have downloaded, which they won't do - and that's the problem. I've tried testing male and female but it doesn't work. It tells me that there are no clothes in the folders.

Oh, stop waffling, Ishtara. If the OP's question left you confused because you can't see past a dictionary definition, and understand what was meant, then I'm sorry. Perhaps next time might be easier for you

The point is that it's clear what the OP meant by the word "technology". Incidentally, dictionaries follow people's use of words - not the other way round. Many words have different uses and many older uses remain in the dictionary. These days, we don't tend to think of technology as being things like fire, sticks, etc., regardless of older descriptions that remain in dictionaries. Personally, I dislike it when the word "technology" is used for things like computer programmes; i.e. programmes that use the same programming languages that other programmes use but the programme does something a little different to other similar progarmmes, therefore it's our technology - but it gets used for that too. In this case, I am sure that the OP meant technical things and not things like fire and clothes. So stop being picky.

Ishtara Rothschild wrote: I'm just pointing out that the word technology is often misused nowadays. It's not just electric tools and machinery. Technology is everything that is somehow manufactured and doesn't naturally occur. That may be so, but I think that the OP means something a little different to that - what we generally think of as technology. I'd also like to point something out. Words, and the definitions of words, are for man - not the other way round. So, if a word that meant one thing in the past, comes to mean something a little different in the future, then the current meaning is the correct one, although the past meaning may also still be a correct one. So let's not get picky, shall we?

Let's not get picky, shall we?

Those average life expectency numbers are astonishing! I'd heard that the average male lifespan in my city, at the start of the 20th century, was 28, but I'd thought it was due to the hardness of working in an industrialised city. I'd no idea that 30 was the norm at that time.

It's true that technology isn't needed. After all, the world of humans managed without it for thousands of years. But, in managing without it, they were more likely to die long before we do today, and they had much harder and poorer lives than we have today. Yesterday, while watching my 42" TV (and I have a 50" in another room), I thought (again) that we are living in wonderful times compared to what's gone before. I also thought that we have only seen the start of it, and I wished that I would be around for the wonders that are to come, but I won't be*. So whilst technology isn't needed, it's a fantastic boon to humankind. So much so, that I'd hate to live in a world without its benefits and pleasures. *Note: I should mention that I'm not about to depart this world in the near future - not that I know of, anyway. But I won't be around in 50 or 100 years time to see, and enjoy, the wonders that continued technology development will bring.

When an account is reported as being hacked, LL rightly disable it as a safety measure. That they take so long to deal with it is due to one thing only - they are not interested in invidiual customers unless the individual pays them a large amount of money each month.

Not stripping? hrmph! Which reminded me of a conversation I had the other day. When I started in SL, my female friend, who introduced me to it, avoided nudity. She said, "I know they are only pixels, but they are MY pixels", which has always tickled me. I look at it the other way round - I know they are my pixels, but they are ONLY pixels. It's interesting how we think of our avatars.

I wouldn't have described camping as earning money. It used to be, when campers gave something back in return for the money - presence on the land, which counted for traffic and was beneficial to the landowner. But that's against the ToS these days, so camping is no longer "earning" as such - it's free handouts. Just sayin' There are some ways to earn money without becoming an escort. Pole-dancing, hosting in clubs, stuff like that.

Ah. Thank you.

Ah. It sounded like there was another massacre

There's V3 viewer?

Side question: I'm way out of touch with SL but what's that about LL firing a lot of their staff? Is there something I can read about it? A thread, maybe?

Ceka Cianci wrote: omg who could forget how much you loved them LOL actually enjoyed how in RA you were so proud of them..it would bug the crap out of some people lol hehe. I enjoyed RA and its community feel, and I enjoyed those "discussions" - a lot No forum system that LL has produced since then has come close to what RA was. that and bot filled free sex clubs. Ooo. That reminded me of a couple of things. One was a 50L for 30 minutes of sex place, with avatars who didn't talk - the poster said that they wouldn't respond. I'd never heard of bots at the time but that's what they were. I should add that I was there with a female friend who wanted to put her poster ad in the reception. She was an escort and they did place those ads there for a weekly fee. The other thing was a chat with a female customer. By that time I had bots on demo sex beds, as I still do. The idea in the discussion was to put up some sex beds away from the store's main area, where people could get their jollies with bots for free, as some people did occasionally with the demo bots - including that customer! I didn't do it though. I think the new adult rules came along quite soon afterwards.

Ceka Cianci wrote: Phil Deakins wrote: That's true about the peak. I think we all knew that many of the 85k-90k were bots, some of which were mine lol i remember hehehehe but you guys had to do what you had to do back then.. I loved my bots. The system I created for them was beautiful, and a joy to behold Ceka Cianci wrote: i just remember back then everyone wondering when the grid was gonna explode when we hit 30k LOL I remember users saying that "We all know what happens. When concurrency hits 30k, SL crashes." That was when concurrency reached 30k quite often and the grid crashed quite often. The SL system was living on the edge at that time but LL put a good deal of work into scalability and things have improved a lot since then - concurrencywise, that is.

I agree. There are many things that cause people to quit SL and sometimes I'm sure that a culmination of things cause it. There have many things that the decision makers at LL have done over the years that have caused my heart to sink, and most of those things didn't affect me in the slightest - except that disheartened feeling each time. I sometimes get disheartened when reading the forum, that LL have had a huge amount of time working on the marketplace and still they can't get it to work properly. Xstreet and OnRez managed it, but LL can't manage it. It's just another thing that I find disheartening even though it doesn't affect me at all. But it was the very idea of trading without the need for any presence whatsoever in SL (except a magic box, and even that's intended to disappear), and the idea that that's the way it's all evolving, with the result that SL is the lesser for it, that disheartened me enough to start this thread.

That's true about the peak. I think we all knew that many of the 85k-90k were bots, some of which were mine

Pussycat Catnap wrote: The real news from that announcement is this: Warning: Adult activities are not allowed on parcels in General regions, regardless of whether the parcel has hidden avatars. On Moderate land, such activity is only permitted privately, behind closed doors. That is actually the first time they have ever said, anywhere official, that such activities are allowed on M land. We've always just made that assumption in the past based on things Blondin sort of indirectly said. I thought that LL made that clear in the forum dicussions preceding the introduction of adult land.

In the past, I've bought a number of parcels by submitting tickets, because I owned the land on 3 sides of it (2 sides when it was on the edge of the sim), but I failed to get one that had been put in the auction queue (purple). I was told that it was too late. I didn't own the normal number of sides though but I was told that, once it was in the auction queue, it was too late. LL land sales have changed in recent times, so it may be different now.

Ceka Cianci wrote: there was always a market place..it just wasn't called market place..and 65k is pretty good since most of the overflow of the 85k to 90 online was more than likely bots for traffic manipulation.concurrency had gone down before the market place became such a big deal. It wasn't me who wrote it but the point that was made was that concurrency was flat - not growing. It's been flat for a very long time now, in spite of LL's efforts to grow it.