CaithLynnSayes

Before it all went to sh!t

a 2007 classic.

Because its my birthday

Sharing the last part of The Cinematic Orchestra Presents In Motion #1 starting 13 minutes and 20 seconds in the original song. I find this to be the best part of this wonderful song. Used in many documentaries and some films.

The code for that is on Github, just saying...

i agree

Allow me to call out the obvious... Who let it come to this?

My assumption is obviously based on what i and a hell of a lot of other users experienced. Ongoing group chat issues with no permanent or improved solution. This leads me and of course others to conclude not much has been done. Maybe lots has been done behind the scene, but where is the result i ask?

I totally agree, as soon as LL announced Sansar and told us they would shift of a bunch of LL minions to the Sansar project, the only difference between LL and the Titanic was a band and deck chairs.

How is that a loaded question? It's really not. I'd really like to see your train of thought here. that's all really. In your earlier post you say that LL failed to properly disclose the intended use of the group chat system. I actually agree with you on that. My point... (3th time now today, and then you say i don't listen, how ironic) is that LL had literally years to come up with a solution for what the group chat system clearly has been used INSTEAD of its intended use. As a developer it is up to you to then take the hint, this is what your users want and try to use what you already provide them with. So make it capable of handling that. This is what LL had to do years ago. You just saying "that ship has sailed" and just live with it, just isn't going to cut it. Group chat is a massive part of LL's social aspect. I will keep emphasizing the fact that it is shameful that they just let it come to this. to completely let the group chat system be "misused" and inevitably grind to a near halt. You just can not deny the fact that the group chat system is and has been used like this for years, so why hasn't it been maintained or reworked years ago. this is the actual issue at hand here. To clarify once again. I fully understand your argument on what the group chat system is and how it was originally meant to work, but the reality here is that it isn't being used that way. For years. A lot of users don't even know how group chat was intended to work.

So what are you suggesting then? What should we do, shut the hell up and not question LL and why it keeps charging us for a dead end piece of outdated software they desperately want to keep afloat? Seriously, i want to hear your view on this.

@Solar Legion I'm sorry bud but your logic doesn't make sense. Couple of posts back @Fritigern Gothly said she didn't even know that is what the group chat system originally was meant to do, and right there lies my point. People don't know how the group chat system was meant to be. All they know is, it is a means to communicate with a wider group of people outside local chat or IM. Right there is my argument, simply that the users don't know it was never meant to be an inworld global chat system, yet it is capable of it, sorta, so it's being used that way. My argument is that LL had a hell of a lot of time to see this happen and foursee the trouble we're facing with it failing today. they knew. They knew it wasn't capable of handling that volume of users using, or "misusing" it in that way. By that definition no blame can be put at the end users. I'd really like to see you dance around that one and come up with an actual good point. I'm really serious. Make me see what you see and what i'm apparently unable to see here.

This... Ladies and gentlemen, is what we would classify as hypocritical and the pot calling the kettle black... Just making a point LL, calm down...

i know, that's all you do, hit the "haha" emoji. I wish you came up with a good argument though...

@Solar Legion As you no doubt have already guessed, I disagree with the point you keep raising that the users are also to blame here. You've explained in great detail what the original purpose of the groups "was" and i get that, i really do. But the group chat isn't used in this way. 18 years have passed since SL has launched and as you mentioned, LL soon found out that the group chat system isn't up to what it quickly turned out to be used as. They had years, let's be generous and say they had 10 years now to come up with an alternative that lets SL user communicate on an "inworld global" scale. At this point i don't really care if they (as you lead on) "rework" the current group chat system, or introduce a new one. SL advertises itself as a social virtual platform, yet communicating with people is a hit and miss, and more miss than hit as of late. You seem to think that we the users have the answers, we don't. I don't, what i see is that the users use this group chat system to communicate globally inworld. LL should have taken that hint years ago. You can keep telling me over and over again that the group chat system isn't used what it was meant for, but that is NOT the fault of the end users, at all. This is LL letting its users use it in what they would see as an unexpected use and just sit by doing nothing about it until everyone complains about it not working anymore.