Kathlen Onyx

If you are talking technicalities the club could have banned the avatar based on the fact they didn't like the earrings they were wearing. Nope, don't like it. BANNED. Landowners can ban you for any reason they want.

I do, yes.

MLP is not human. Whether or not a club bans them or not has no bearing at all. I would assume if you can go shopping in a robot avatar that you can also go shopping in a MLP avatar...unless well it has the head or body of a child avi.

Be careful using the "discrimination" word. Just because something isn't allowed doesn't mean it's discrimination. That has a very distinct definition as to what it applies to. I'm not even sure a private gaming entity is even bound by any of that for their end users.

This addresses part of my question BUT what if there is a A-rated club (or M-rated for that matter) that allows child avi looking avatars to be there because they have determined that they are not a child avi. I was at a club today where clearly the avatar looked like a "teen". Their profile said otherwise but they still looked like one, wearing just a skimpy thong bikini with the "package" clearly shown. I guess this is where the 16-25 year old range might fall. Also how is a owner of a region to know if that avi is in compliance and wearing a body or skin with a modesty layer? What's to stop me (I wouldn't) from opening a M-rated region and allowing child avi's to be there and not have to be in compliance? I just see a lot of reasons for this to be hidden more now instead of the problem being dealt with.

It's comments like this that may get Child Avi's banned completely.

A BOM layer can be removed. It's if built into the body it can't be removed. A different body must be used. I would assume, based on common sense, the don't mean BOM skin layer.

I have a question that I don't think has been covered here. Are there any ramifications for region owners if they allow Child Avi's on their land. Say there is a club that is A rated and only has child avi's that are all out of compliance. Will the club/region owner also be banned for allowing this or is this simply on an avatar case by case basis? In other words, should region owners be concerned here at all about being perma banned?

She means just being in a A rated sim is now banned.

Why is everyone saying this? It's like people want it locked. It will just continue in a newly created thread with a different title.

NO, it means height is not the only factor that will determine if the avi is a child avatar or not. Maybe re-read the FAQ's.

Perhaps that is the end goal?

You don't know this. It's obviously large enough LL changed the entire TOS for it. AND one person engaging in this activity is too much.

bolded, underlined...except stuff that is ILLEGAL. Whether the community accepts it has no bearing on anything whatsoever.

I'm pretty sure that LL investigated and must have found some merit to it or they would not have taken these steps. Don't dismiss a problem just because you personally don't see it.

I'm surprised that I haven't seen an all out call for a ban on child avi's. I for one, would support this wholeheartedly. Problem solved.

I'm not going to argue sematics with you. It doesn't matter what you and I think "looks" like a Child Avi. It only matters if LL thinks there has been an infraction enough to ban someone. Take it up with them.

I doubt it. That would have happened pages ago. Today is tame compared to yesterday.

If that face was on an adult body then I would call it a child avi.

What is the point here? The top picture above is clearly a child. If you don't see that I'm not sure what to tell you. Perhaps not be a child avi as your perspective is skewed.

it really doesn't

I actually think it will stay about the same. The people who think child avi's should not be on SL are not going to change their mind because they are wearing a modesty layer. There is always an uproar when changes to a platform or game are done. Play any MMO and go to their discord on patch day. Eventually it dies down till the next big change happens.

Well, that is exactly WHY this had to be done. People obviously were not making acceptable decisions on what RP is allowed. There is absolutely no reason at all to HAVE to RP anything that involves having no clothes on. A bath you can take with a swimsuit on. There is no need at all to have to be naked. Is it realistic? No, but RP isn't real ,that is why it's called RP. You don't have to RP every single second of the day. Skip the baths or put swim trunks on. Even actors wear swimsuits or covering on their bodies when doing movies. Do you think that all actors are actually naked when acting. They are not and it doesn't need to be done in SL either.

I am pretty sure that their is way to know if a child avi is in compliance. In open sim when Athena was believed to be a copybot body of Maitrya (I may have this info wrong) there were certain grids that a pop up came up that said you were not allowed to wear Athena on this grid. You will be disconnected from the grid. Come back after you remove Athena. Point being that if you are not in compliance a warning message should be given. Again, I am sure I got some info jumbled but that was the gist of it. @Arielle Popstar probably has the correct info.

I thinks this is a great point. If LL is requiring a modesty layer on a child avi then they should provide one for free like the other senra avatars.