Amina Sopwith
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Mislaid my phone, and actually spent a full five seconds thinking I could ring myself to find out where it was.
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2 minutes ago, Ayeleeon said:
And if the law worked the way it was supposed to all the time everything would be great, but we all know the law does not work the way it is supposed to all the time. We need to be prepared for those times when it does not work right.
What do you mean by "the law working right"?
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3 minutes ago, Zidaya Zenovka said:
It just seems like if you're looked at as being some kind of weirdo or part of a niche that appeals to oddly creative types, it's OK for people to hassle you.
I've not said it's ok to hassle child avatars. As with your previous posts, you're simply making up various derogatory reasons to try to invalidate people's wishes not to interact with them. We have no whimsy, we lack understanding, we stereotype, we think it's ok to hassle you. Anything other than the fact that we just don't like participating in someone's self-infantilisation, and haven't found you guys to be very good at playing the role.
Do truly whimsical people have to keep on telling you how whimsical they are?
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3 minutes ago, Ayeleeon said:
We each vote, and the majority rules.
That's supposed to be how the law works...
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Just now, Zidaya Zenovka said:
Too bad, then because if I ever met Harry Potter in Second Life, and was asked to help him defeat he who shall not be named I'd be the first to take off my top hat, put on my feathered bards hat, and cast vicious mockery at the nearest Dementor.
I was trying to illustrate why I see a difference between reading or watching a story that has a child in it, and being expected to participate in someone's personal fantasy of being treated like a child.
2 minutes ago, Zidaya Zenovka said:it just sounds like you're not a fan of whimsy more than it's any kind of actual issue on the child roleplayer's part.
Well, you can think what you like. I'm not interested in discussing whether infantilisation is a necessary element of whimsy.
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4 minutes ago, Ayeleeon said:
Indeed none of us should be looking to someone else as an authority, we must all be well informed and decide what is true for ourselves.
So if someone thinks for themselves and comes to the opposite conclusion that you do, what then?
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16 minutes ago, Zidaya Zenovka said:
Care to explain? Because when one writes and publishes a children's book one is-to a large degree-expecting both children and the adults raising them to indulge in fantasy with you. Maybe you're not expecting them to roleplay with you like you're a kid
Well that's the point. It's the interaction of it that makes it different in my mind. The difference between reading about Harry Potter, and meeting someone who expects me to call him the Boy Who Lived and ask him to defeat Voldemort. There's also a randomness of encounters in SL that makes it less of a selective audience than the person who chose to read the story.
I don't mind reading a story that has a child in it, but I dislike meeting an adult who wants me to engage with and indulge them in their wish to infantilise themselves. It's a book I won't be reading, if you will.
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5 minutes ago, Zidaya Zenovka said:
I don't feel it any different from an adult writing a young adult novel where the main character is a child.
I see an enormous difference between writing a child character in a story, and presenting oneself as a child with the intention, even expectation, that people around you will indulge the fantasy and interact with you as one.
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Godwin in the opening post?
2 hours ago, Ayeleeon said:Indeed that is the problem, it is easy for those in power to brainwash the masses into thinking that good is evil and evil is good, we as individuals must be constantly on guard that we are not buying into a lie.
But how do I know you're the authority on what's right? What if I think you're the one who's been brainwashed?
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48 minutes ago, So Whimsy said:
Personally I like child avatars, they're adorable and fun.
What I have an issue with is the baby talk, as a non native english speaker it gives me a headache trying to descipher what they are saying
This contrived way of writing is another reason I find it impossible to immerse myself in one of these illusions, although to be fair I can't get under this particular spell anyway. If somebody is role-playing with a particular accent, I've never seen them try to incorporate that in the typing. They might have it in a title over their head or something, and they might be using language in character (eg, particular turns of phrase), but I've never seen anyone else writing their actual pronunciation into their text. Like "parse me that glarse" if they're supposed to sound southern English.
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1 hour ago, ValKalAstra said:
Social Media allows people to be extremely loud to the point that a single person can shift the entire narrative if they reach critical mass.
This is a really good point, and touches on the issue PPs have raised about whether you've actually changed a consensus just by being the loudest (without making a partisan statement either way on that particular issue; I'm just talking about the concept in abstract).
The UK got absolutely blue rinsed (haha) in the last general election, but you'd never have known it was coming from social media. If you were paying attention to news sources, you'd know the Tories were going to win but social media alone would give the impression that they had no support...and even the experts didn't expect an absolute landslide like that. There are many issues where people won't put their heads above the parapet, because they've seen what happens to those who do, but it doesn't change what they think. And when they can vote anonymously, the discrepancy between the dominant narrative and what people really believe can become very clear.
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7 hours ago, Luna Bliss said:
So did all the children you've encountered in SL act in a dependent manner?
I'm going back a long way, but generally yes. Not necessarily very overtly, but certainly playing on the "I am very small and young so you need to humour me in whatever way I'm angling for".
I also never met one who could capture that quality children have whereby they are obviously innocent and unknowing, but quite often catch you out with a very profound or wise observation, or unexpectedly adult turn of phrase. Or the sense of discovery about the world without actually realising overtly that discovery is what they're doing. Or the frustration, when that occurs.
Why would they? Innocence doesn't know it's innocent, and that's why it's so hard to capture when it's a contrivance.
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1 hour ago, Luna Bliss said:
Why does it seem a little weird to you?
I know you didn't ask me, but you could have done, so... I find adults infantilising themselves to be a bit off-putting. I never liked it, and I've liked it even less since becoming a parent. I understand why people might like to do it and obviously I realise their right to do it in SL. And I accept that doing it in SL with a child avatar is "owning" it, and causing less aggro than adults who, in RL, expect everyone else to do life for them. But I find those people irritating and off-putting too. I had a boyfriend once, years ago, who used to do this horrible childish lower lip pout and expect me to be his mum. Lasted about five minutes, that did. Ugh.
Bottom line is, I just find adults acting like they're dependent, vulnerable children to be unappealing company, so I just leave them alone in whatever world I encounter them. They can do it but I don't have to participate. As Sid said earlier, I never met one who could do it convincingly anyway.
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2 hours ago, missyrideout said:
People who make a big deal about being "picky" in their profiles. Does that work? Oh dang, she's picky, better not send my inane go-nowhere pickup attempt! Cmon. Just silently judge like the rest of us.
Or judge out loud, but at least make it funny.
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If you want to have conversations in real time, a voice morpher would seem a better option.
A lot of people say they can tell the difference, but I'm not used to hearing it and unless it's done very badly, it would probably fool me.
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1 hour ago, Sid Nagy said:
I worked almost 40 years with kids in RL. So you might think I know where I'm talking about when it comes to kids.
Well, I never met a child avatar in SL that even came close to the way they think, act and talk. They can look cute, but the moment they start talking, the illusion is totally gone.
Have to say this was my experience too, and I'm not even talking about the super creepy sexualised ones.
Innocence doesn't know it is innocent, by nature.
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I liked my job as a store model/customer assistant. Had no idea about all the drama going on among the staff until our (very generous) employer sent out a satisfaction survey to us in response to many staff complaints. All the grievances were stupid, but my favourite was the one about the model who was always on the top floor but never interacted. She was a registered and legal bot, the owner had told us that, she had "bot" in her name and it was stated in her profile.
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17 hours ago, Rowan Amore said:
People. For heaven's sake, please try to spell my name correctly next time and it's YOUR'RE not YOUR.
I'd also like to take a moment to thank all of my alts. Who knew? Gotta love VS.
Shout out to @Orwar @LittleMe Jewell @Sam1 Bellisserian @Rolig Loon @Silent Mistwalker
It's John Nobhead. I just know it from the writing style and character depth.
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What am I listening to?
I have no idea. Don't ask me how, but I've just discovered this. What is it? I'm told they came from the cast of Starlight Express, which actually dates them less than their band name does, and explains the rollerskating, which I do kind of admire as that must be hard.
Still...what AM I listening to?
ETA: I think they all must have played Electra.
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5 minutes ago, Orwar said:
I'd bought a few pairs of the garment/accessory used to keep one's trousers up via straps going over one's shoulders. On the packaging it was printed in a few different languages, but the English word used was 'suspenders'.
I was laughing at exactly this point...
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55 minutes ago, Orwar said:
I generally write in British English, so it has happened a few times that I've searched for things like 'armour' on the marketplace and got very few results because most listings only have the American English abomin-- I mean, spelling variation.
Looking back, I can see when American and Australian men were making an effort with me because they were using British English terms.
Or maybe they just knew how hard I'd laugh if they told me about their pants and thongs.
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Thinking how unexpectedly good I look on Zoom, and maybe I don't even need makeup, then realising I've got the "LIES, LIES, LIES" filter on.
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Play piano music, please.
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Dalek bin.
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Media Influence, Stereotypes, And RL/SL Comparisons
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When I was pregnant, a little girl asked me if I had a baby in my tummy. Without thinking, I replied, "Yes, but I really don't eat them very often."
Thank God, her mother cracked up laughing, and she just looked a bit puzzled, as if she thought I'd misunderstood the question. That was the most fraught "wtf have I just done" moment of my life.