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@CollidingNeurons I suspect you will need to contact your new ISP's support function and raise the possibility of their url and/or port blocking actions. It is inconvenient for others besides yourself so it needs to be investigated and corrected.
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Do you get the same result trying to log in with the Default Linden viewer? If so, contact LL support, it may be their problem. I know some ISPs specifically block access to certain websites and block assorted ports but I know no detailed information.
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Object deletion is at two stages. The first delete sends the item to your trash folder and restoring from there is relatively easy. "Restore to Last position" does NOT work on deleted items if the items were purged from the trash folder. It cannot. Once it's gone, it's gone, end of.
If the items are still in your trash folder then they can be "returned to a default folder", whereupon the items can either be simply rezzed again or if you have the rezzing rights as Claireschen mentions, "restored to lasr position".
As I understand it once the trash is purged the item is then deleted from the inventory server and like a deleted file....which is all it is in fact....it is gone.
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@EnCore Mayne You ask questions which have been asked many times before and by and large received vague and unsatisfactory answers.
The structure and function of Linden Lab is fluid and rather amorphous. At various times individuals have stood out as scions of Philip Rosedale, whose brainchild SecondLife is.
Those, like me, who have infested SL for many years have become used to the shadowy, almost secretive behaviour of the senior executives at LL. It is not that they actively seek anonymity, they simply do not see why they need to raise their profiles.
At various times individuals have stood out, Oz Linden (his SL alias) was one, more recently Kyle Linden has taken the time to explain various changes in SL; a few CEOs have made their existence known (Rod Humble was one (RIP)).
Those more attuned to the corporate world may know other names, I don't.
What I DO know is that the current crop of coders (who must be skilled at knitting spaghetti) and programmers prefer to weave their magic in relative secrecy; the customer(user) facing aspect of SL is far more intermittent that it once was. Unless, that is, you are able to make the times of the various SL user groups and even then the performance of some Lindens is, shall we say, enigmatic.
What is clear though, is that LL do have a clear goal to improve and innovate within the shambolic code that consitutes SecondLife.
ETA: I really should make special mention of Monty Linden (his SL alias, obviously), who regularly contributes to various SL fora, especially concerning viewer development and is one of the (unfortunately) few LL folk who seem comfortable discussing technical topics with users.
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10 minutes ago, Love Zhaoying said:
.some of us rely on the Official viewer.
Why? I don't dispute that you consider that you need to do so, I genuinely don't understand why.
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While there was a definite issue with SL logins yesterday (late on Wednesday, West Europe time), there are several other issues afflicting some accounts' ability to log in.
It frequently shows as a viewer shutdown at the "loading world" moment.
One issue is the size of some folders in the account's inventory. It need not be a particularly large inventory but its "shape". If there are large numbers (several hundred) items in a single folder it causes sudden flood of data from the server to the client (viewer) which overwhelms the connection and the viewer simply quits.
If this is the case, the account must contact LL support with the issue. They can and usually will "unflatten" the inventory for you.
This is only one of several possibilities but I think it is worth mentioning.
One takeaway that this issue emphasises, is that good housekeeping is really important with SL inventories. Use subfolders and divide up your inventory. Create your own folder trees.
I had inventory issues years ago and I learned the hard way just HOW important that action is.
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@Tcash789 this may not be relevant but maybe you can find something useful here: https://wiki.firestormviewer.org/fs_intel_issues#viewer_freezes_while_loading_world
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1 hour ago, mehllama said:
It's easy to drag large inventory users or not make them a consideration in development
It is not the size of the inventory per se that is an issue, it is more often that they have vast folder-fulls of items, which take the SL inventory servers a lot of time to load. Cutting up such mega-folders into a few (or many) subfolders is proven to improve login performance of even quite large inventories.
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LL are having issues with Amazon (as AWS) blocking some of their pages. I discussed it yesterday with TJ from support and the issue has been elevated. I was seeing some Error 403s complete with a warning notice (in the UK), so LL are aware of an issue.
It hasn't made it to the GSP yet so it might have security implications, I guess.
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41 minutes ago, Perrie Juran said:
To be clear it is not "Builders Brewery" that is using Discord integration.
Well well, that I did not realise. In my innocence I had rather assumed that it was an "official server" not an adhoc one used with (I must assume) tacit approval of the BB mods. Since the chats are publically visible, that seemed to me to be a reasonable assumption.
I rarely make contributions to BB chat but I will assuredly not be doing so henceforward.
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14 hours ago, Perrie Juran said:
I understand how maddening this can be for content creators. But unless a creator files a claim LL's hands are pretty well tied.
Quite so, Perrie. No, I don't like it but 'twas ever thus in SL.
My point with regard to "privacy" remains.
The only way for anyone in these days to be truly private is to not use the Internet at all.
There is a circle here that can never be squared.
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2 hours ago, Perrie Juran said:
The only justification any one could offer was, "Linden Lab knows that this is going on and hasn't done anything about it."
Linden Lab know that a great deal of minor content theft is also occurring and yet they do nothing. Content theft is definitely against LL ToS so their inaction on any given matter is no guide to its correctness with regard to the LL ToS.
Passive complicity does NOT indicate compliance.
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@quilnux unless you are a Premium Plus member, no, in short.
Have you checked your browsers to ensure it is not blocking the site? I assume you HAVE tried multiple browsers, ie Edge, Firefox or Chrome? Also you need to check with your Internet supplier's support to ensure service is OK and they are not blocking the site for some reason.
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This invisible object, is it physical, (ie can you walk through it I assume not)? Can you see it if you "show transparent" (CTRL+ SHIFT + T)? If so it is intruding onto your land from a neighbour (in which case you can return it via parcel autoreturn since it is transgressing onto your land) while it is visible in show transparent (it should show up in red).
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1 hour ago, DarioAkita said:
the last version 6.6.14
Is that Firestorm or the default Linden Viewer, if the former you need to contacts the Firestorm inworld Support group for advice.
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13 minutes ago, belindacarson said:
why are they doing maintenance stuff during the few short hours support are meant to be open?
Ahh the old walnut of whether SL is a "worldwide" operation or a United States one. Well that all depends on your location and I'll not say more than that. As to why LL choose to do "maintenance" (their word for a service not being available WHATEVER the reason) at the time they do is because the Live chat and 'phone support services are based on the Eastern side of the US and so keep largely to their local time. Whoever is contracted to work there works to local time and not SL or Pacific time.
ETA: I am UK and so LL's hours are all strange for me.
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Or not...of course *sigh*
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This whole issue MAY be related to the fact that a small but significant number of accounts could not:
1) Log in to either Agni or Aditi
2) Log into SL's webpages
3) Access SL support via Live Chat
It would seem that PERHAPS they have found the issue.
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2 hours ago, AmeliaJ08 said:
owner who can do anything regardless of settings.
Just that.
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@Viadetta.. I raised the change in sunset and sunrise ambient conditions with LL some 12 months ago. It was an unregarded consequence of the removal of the sunset-look Moonsets and while some at LL are also disturbed at the ambient changes, many apparently believe that the substantial changes to sun/moon rise/set ambient light that will occur as SL moves to physically based rendering and its associated lighting models on the regions make any work on that a waste of effort so any further change is unlikely in the near future.
I may also add the some folks seem to consider the current lighting and improvement worth keeping(!)
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1 hour ago, Qie Niangao said:
All Lindens who know how to toggle the "Under maintenance" flag were busy decorating for Halloween. (FWIW, it's all showing "Operational" for me now.)
So it does! So someone finally noticed. Perhaps they were too busy time-traveling. Apparently the maintenance to live chat to be carried out later today (12th) was/will be initially reported on 19th?? though they seem to think it's the 11th. Maybe it WAS actually done yesterday and THAT was the "System under Maintenance"?
What HAVE they been smoking??
FETA: oh dear they noticed that as well; it now makes sense.
Doesn't change my initial thoughts though.
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One full day on and we still have the "Service under maintenance" message on the GSP and not a single word as to what is being done or why.
Yesterday support were as clueless as us as to what was going on except that "some Main Server regions were being restarted".
My curiosity is a little more than piqued.
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21 hours ago, Ardy Lay said:
I have seen weird. Weird is ... pretty damn common now.
Yes Ardy, I have cleared all my history and caches on Firefox, Edge, and (with great reluctance) Chrome, in contact with Concierge phone support, all to absolutely no avail. I've seen "cache full" issues in the past so I am not fazed by them. I even restart my router once a week (one step short of tinfoil hattery, I know) with no change. All the other links work perfectly normally on that page, just that one is playing up.
I see there do appear to be other issues afflicting other users and Conceirge Support had no idea why but LL are apparently restarting some Main Server regions at the moment, despite it being RC channel restart day today.
I am inclined to say something is up, but I have no idea what. Maybe AWS is at the back of the problem....who knows. Concierge Support were great but like me, utterly clueless as to what is going on.
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Just now, Ardy Lay said:
I did, however, have to login first.
Well yes, that is a given! Weird, innit.
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@yuyuxin dare I ask what the culprit was?
Just asking in case others have similar issues.