Luna Bliss Posted October 8, 2021 Author Share Posted October 8, 2021 (edited) 15 hours ago, Sukubia Scarmon said: Also, I'm very sure it's not quite the same with my mother and other people. Most tend to be able to do something else, even if it's just rare occasions. They maybe go and buy themselves something nice Or do something nice for themselves. Or maybe meet up with a friend or colleque or anyone, really. Not saying there are no people like my mother, there sure are. But I don't think it's that many. I certainly hope it's not, because holy crap, that'd be terrible. I think I understand what you're saying here. It's not necessarily about financial poverty right? It's about an alcoholic mother who exists in darkness without any joy for life or the children she is supposed to care for. This is so painful and destructive for any child who is trapped in a home where a mother has no hope. Edited October 8, 2021 by Luna Bliss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luna Bliss Posted October 8, 2021 Author Share Posted October 8, 2021 17 hours ago, Chris Nova said: 20 hours ago, Luna Bliss said: It's as if all they can see is this fully formed happy baby arriving at a lovely house with a white-picket fence, lovingly adored by two well-adjusted parents. Probably the most idiotic thing I've read all year. Apparently you are taking what I said literally whereas I was being hyperbolic when I painted this exaggerated and imaginary example demonstrating a lack of empathy so profound that it leaves one to wonder what kind of ideal scenario they imagine awaits a child born from a forced pregnancy. It's similar to the expression "it's like some people think money grows on trees" -- nobody would think such a person expressing this actually believed money could grow on a tree -- at least nobody who had the ability to think beyond the literal. To my point, there are many reasons people are anti-choice. At that time I listed tribal politics, religion, and a profound lack of empathy for what happens to women and families who are forced into pregnancy as reasons why many are anti-abortion. There are more reasons -- what's yours? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blaise Glendevon Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 1 hour ago, Arielle Popstar said: It's implied by the nature of the act. You yourself previously pointed out how the various contraceptives were not a failsafe. Sex is a high risk Gacha endeavour where one could wind up with a pregnancy, herpes, VD or aids. Or heavenly bliss! There's no such thing as implied consent. Hence the need for contraception, barrier protection, and abortion care. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luna Bliss Posted October 9, 2021 Author Share Posted October 9, 2021 The noxious abortion law in Texas was reinstated late last night (Fri): https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-58853859 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luna Bliss Posted October 9, 2021 Author Share Posted October 9, 2021 44 minutes ago, Finite said: 3 hours ago, Luna Bliss said: The noxious abortion law in Texas was reinstated late last night (Fri): https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-58853859 My gawd I wish we could evict states like this. Total head down in shame feeling rn. I know, the problem is that anti-abortion laws are being enacted in 45 states. The plan is to overturn Roe v Wade "In the past few years, state legislatures have enacted more than 250 abortion-related laws in 45 states, according to the study from authors at the University of Utah. Of the laws enacted between January 2017 and November 2020, 88.7% restricted access to abortion services. Seven states accounted for more than half of those restrictive laws: Arkansas, Indiana, Kentucky, Louisiana, Missouri, Ohio and Utah. The laws ranged from funding constraints and restrictions for physicians to waiting periods for patients and gestational limits. Some would trigger a complete ban on abortions if Roe v. Wade were to be overturned". And this only goes up to about a year ago...I can't imagine what also happened in the last year. https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/articles/2021-02-25/45-states-have-enacted-abortion-related-legislation-from-2017-2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luna Bliss Posted October 9, 2021 Author Share Posted October 9, 2021 Nov 1st the version that encourages us to sue each other for $10,000 if we know of anyone helping a woman needing an abortion will become law in Oklahoma. Some major thing in Mississippi too that apparently affects many states. It's all going to the supreme court and the possible overturn of Roe v Wade, and due to the supreme courts polarized condition presently it does not look good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowan Amore Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 1 minute ago, Luna Bliss said: I know, the problem is that anti-abortion laws are being enacted in 45 states. The plan is to overturn Roe v Wade "In the past few years, state legislatures have enacted more than 250 abortion-related laws in 45 states, according to the study from authors at the University of Utah. Of the laws enacted between January 2017 and November 2020, 88.7% restricted access to abortion services. Seven states accounted for more than half of those restrictive laws: Arkansas, Indiana, Kentucky, Louisiana, Missouri, Ohio and Utah. The laws ranged from funding constraints and restrictions for physicians to waiting periods for patients and gestational limits. Some would trigger a complete ban on abortions if Roe v. Wade were to be overturned". And this only goes up to about a year ago...I can't imagine what also happened in the last year. https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/articles/2021-02-25/45-states-have-enacted-abortion-related-legislation-from-2017-2020 Some won't be happy until we're back in the 50s. Keep the little.woman at home, no car, no job, no money and a handful of kids. That should keep her in her place. And why did we give them voting rights? They shouldn't have to fill their pretty little heads with politics. I'm being facetious, of course, but that's how it seems to me. Women make a step forward in one area and someone is just waiting to push us back two. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finite Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 4 minutes ago, Luna Bliss said: I know, the problem is that anti-abortion laws are being enacted in 45 states. The plan is to overturn Roe v Wade "In the past few years, state legislatures have enacted more than 250 abortion-related laws in 45 states, according to the study from authors at the University of Utah. Of the laws enacted between January 2017 and November 2020, 88.7% restricted access to abortion services. Seven states accounted for more than half of those restrictive laws: Arkansas, Indiana, Kentucky, Louisiana, Missouri, Ohio and Utah. The laws ranged from funding constraints and restrictions for physicians to waiting periods for patients and gestational limits. Some would trigger a complete ban on abortions if Roe v. Wade were to be overturned". And this only goes up to about a year ago...I can't imagine what also happened in the last year. https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/articles/2021-02-25/45-states-have-enacted-abortion-related-legislation-from-2017-2020 Ya we'll have to see how it goes at the SCOTUS. I think an overturn could backfire imo. It would give the left a reason to get out and vote more so than when they showed up to get rid of Trump. Can see a 15 member SCOTUS in the near future. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luna Bliss Posted October 9, 2021 Author Share Posted October 9, 2021 1 minute ago, Rowan Amore said: Some won't be happy until we're back in the 50s. Keep the little.woman at home, no car, no job, no money and a handful of kids. That should keep her in her place. And why did we give them voting rights? They shouldn't have to fill their pretty little heads with politics. I'm being facetious, of course, but that's how it seems to me. Women make a step forward in one area and someone is just waiting to push us back two. Well I do like your statement some time ago, that if men could get pregnant the procedure would be covered by the govt. I believe it was Gloria Steinem who said: "If men could get pregnant abortion would be a sacrament". We really do need to explore this desire for some in society who wish to control women -- it's yet another reason some anti-choice people are against abortion. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lindens Acan Linden Posted October 9, 2021 Lindens Share Posted October 9, 2021 Hey everyone friendly reminder to stay civil and keep in classy. Lets try and keep discussion on topic. Thank you 👍 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick0678 Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 10 hours ago, Rowan Amore said: Some won't be happy until we're back in the 50s. Keep the little.woman at home, no car, no job, no money and a handful of kids. That should keep her in her place. And why did we give them voting rights? They shouldn't have to fill their pretty little heads with politics. I'm being facetious, of course, but that's how it seems to me. Women make a step forward in one area and someone is just waiting to push us back two. It does sound like that. Also from what i read according to the answers here i understand that not many people "regardless of gender" actually are mature and practice "safe" sex. Sex related diseases must be thriving over there. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blaise Glendevon Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, Nick0678 said: It does sound like that. Also from what i read according to the answers here i understand that not many people "regardless of gender" actually are mature and practice "safe" sex. Sex related diseases must be thriving over there. Actual sex educators don't use the phrase "safe sex" anymore. There's a move to terms like "risk/harm reduction" and "safer sex practices." Human beings aren't perfect, and as we have had to explain to you on multiple occasions, both barrier methods and hormonal contraceptives fail. User error happens. https://www.plannedparenthood.org/learn/teens/ask-experts/what-is-the-difference-between-safe-sex-and-safer-sex Edited October 10, 2021 by Blaise Glendevon 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blaise Glendevon Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 What's funny though? Are you this amused at people using precise language or nuance? @Sam1 Bellisserian 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finite Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 2 hours ago, Nick0678 said: It does sound like that. Also from what i read according to the answers here i understand that not many people "regardless of gender" actually are mature and practice "safe" sex. Sex related diseases must be thriving over there. That’s more to do with lack of education than anything to do with women’s movements or abortion rights. Places in the States with high STD rates also have low education rates. And are generally where women are the most restricted. Maybe you can start a topic and we can discuss further. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick0678 Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 53 minutes ago, Blaise Glendevon said: Actual sex educators don't use the phrase "safe sex" anymore. There's a move to terms like "risk/harm reduction" and "safer sex practices." Human beings aren't perfect, and as we have had to explain to you on multiple occasions, both barrier methods and hormonal contraceptives fail. User error happens. https://www.plannedparenthood.org/learn/teens/ask-experts/what-is-the-difference-between-safe-sex-and-safer-sex Well i don't know how sex educators call it over there in the Wild Wild West but in Australia and the U.K they still use the term "Safe Sex". https://www.betterhealth.vic.gov.au/health/healthyliving/safe-sex https://www.gov.uk/government/news/phe-reminds-young-londoners-to-practice-safe-sex 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finite Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Nick0678 said: Well i don't know how sex educators call it over there in the Wild Wild West but in Australia and the U.K they still use the term "Safe Sex". https://www.betterhealth.vic.gov.au/health/healthyliving/safe-sex https://www.gov.uk/government/news/phe-reminds-young-londoners-to-practice-safe-sex hmmm https://patient.info/sexual-health/sexually-transmitted-infections-leaflet/safer-sex dated 2017. Seems the UK also calls it Safer Sex.. And has been for a while... Edited October 10, 2021 by Finite 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick0678 Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 3 minutes ago, Finite said: hmmm https://patient.info/sexual-health/sexually-transmitted-infections-leaflet/safer-sex dated 2017. Seems the UK also calls it Safer Sex.. And has been for a while... The link i posted is from the UK Government, yours is just a health info website.. Move on.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finite Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 (edited) 26 minutes ago, Nick0678 said: The link i posted is from the UK Government, yours is just a health info website.. Move on.. hmm. Sure buddy. https://www.gov.uk/government/news/people-urged-to-practise-safer-sex-as-gonorrhoea-cases-in-england-rise-by-26 https://www.nidirect.gov.uk/articles/sexual-health (I can do cherry picked google searches too fyi and pretend to know about a topic or in this case an off-topic) Edited October 10, 2021 by Finite 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luna Bliss Posted October 10, 2021 Author Share Posted October 10, 2021 (edited) Most important to this sidetrack though, is that it seems the naming of these methods should really be changed to "safer sex" practices instead of "safe sex practices", as they are not totally safe -- pregnancies and STD's still occur even among those who use safer methods. Perhaps this is occurring....naming accuracy is improving.. Edited October 10, 2021 by Luna Bliss 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick0678 Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 3 minutes ago, Finite said: And you earned yourself a cowboy hat for showing your lack of comprehension (now twice in the same thread)... in case you didn't spot it I bolded it for you... Oh that hat is so adorable! Thank you! Big hug! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luna Bliss Posted October 10, 2021 Author Share Posted October 10, 2021 5 hours ago, Nick0678 said: 16 hours ago, Rowan Amore said: Some won't be happy until we're back in the 50s. Keep the little.woman at home, no car, no job, no money and a handful of kids. That should keep her in her place. And why did we give them voting rights? They shouldn't have to fill their pretty little heads with politics. I'm being facetious, of course, but that's how it seems to me. Women make a step forward in one area and someone is just waiting to push us back two. Expand It does sound like that. Also from what i read according to the answers here i understand that not many people "regardless of gender" actually are mature and practice "safe" sex. Sex related diseases must be thriving over there. I don't think it has to do with maturity, although I'll be the first to diss 'Murica in so many matters. It appears there are favored methods of contraception which differ according to country. For example, according to this article and a few more I quickly searched for, in Greece male contraception is favored and women fear female contraception: https://thenurj.com/2021/03/07/women-lack-access-to-contraceptive/ This would give Greece much more protection from STD's due to the barriers with condoms. Here in America we place more responsibility on the woman for contraception, and birth control pills and IUD's aren't protective against STD's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luna Bliss Posted October 10, 2021 Author Share Posted October 10, 2021 (edited) I didn't check this out thoroughly for accuracy but am shocked if it's true, and it shows the insanity that would arise if we allow this annoying 'Texas law' to become the law of the land: "A Reddit forum has been shut down after self-proclaimed ‘bounty hunters’ used it to share tips on how to report and identify those who break a Texas law banning abortions". "One of the group’s 68 members shared a post asking their fellow ‘bounty hunters’ whether it would be ‘unethical to collect bounty on a perp that I impregnated?’ – a question slammed by healthcare advocate Kendall Brown". https://www.unilad.co.uk/news/bounty-hunters-were-using-an-online-forum-to-track-down-people-assisting-abortions-in-texas/ https://www.businessinsider.com/reddit-shuts-down-forum-for-texas-abortion-bounty-hunters-2021-9 Edited October 10, 2021 by Luna Bliss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick0678 Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 4 minutes ago, Luna Bliss said: I don't think it has to do with maturity, although I'll be the first to diss 'Murica in so many matters. It appears there are favored methods of contraception which differ according to country. For example, according to this article and a few more I quickly searched for, in Greece male contraception is favored and women fear female contraception: https://thenurj.com/2021/03/07/women-lack-access-to-contraceptive/ This would give Greece much more protection from STD's due to the barriers with condoms. Here in America we place more responsibility on the woman for contraception, and birth control pills and IUD's aren't protective against STD's. No condom = no sex .. that's the way i was taught since i was a young boy. (Unless of course i had a relationship for long time, but even then during the fertile days sex was with condom.) Anyway doesn't matter i am off to go have some coffee in RL. See you later Luna. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luna Bliss Posted October 10, 2021 Author Share Posted October 10, 2021 (edited) "Anonymous reporting websites have also been set up by anti-abortion groups for those looking to turn in the people in their community who have that those wanting abortions, with Texas Right to Life launching a site last month which asked ‘pro-life whistleblowers’ to submit tips". https://www.unilad.co.uk/news/bounty-hunters-were-using-an-online-forum-to-track-down-people-assisting-abortions-in-texas/ GoDaddy took the website down, but Texas Right To Life claims they'll put it back up: “We will not be silenced. If anti-lifers want to take our website down, we’ll put it back up. No one can keep us from telling the truth. No one can stop us from saving lives. We are not afraid of the mob,” Texas Right to Life director of media and communication Kimberlyn Schwartz said in part". lol...they say they are not afraid of "the mob" -- what about their mob coming after women and citizens of the U.S. who aid their abortion efforts ? https://www.kvue.com/article/news/local/texas/godaddy-texas-right-to-life-abortion-tip-website/269-3dc9eb2f-75cd-424d-8897-67aa9ebeed52 Edited October 10, 2021 by Luna Bliss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finite Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Nick0678 said: No condom = no sex .. that's the way i was taught since i was a young boy. Yes we were all taught that. Apparently, it hasn't worked. Hence why some places are trying out new things instead of sticking with the old. Edited October 10, 2021 by Finite 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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