OK, How do I find saved IM,s on my comp?

[HarleiQuinn]

I FORGOT!!! need to find where and How I find chat log. HELP!

[Innula Zenovka]

You don't say what OS you have (Windows, Mac, Linux).   In Windows 7, the chat log is normally in a hidden folder called C:\Users\<Windows Username>\AppData\Roaming\SecondLife, but you can easily check by looking at Me>Preferences>Chat

 

[Carl Thibodeaux]

Becareful not to share them with anyone for that is not allowed on SL.

So, just look them over and hope you find what your looking for.

[TristanMercer]

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Carl Thibodeaux wrote:

Becareful not to share them with anyone for that is not allowed on SL.

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Shariing of personal information, chats, IMs is not allowed within Second Life, but that is where the ToS ends at. I can post whatever is said to me anywhere else and there is nothing that anyone can do about it.

[Sassy Romano]

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TristanMercer wrote:

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Carl Thibodeaux wrote:

Becareful not to share them with anyone for that is not allowed on SL.

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Shariing of personal information, chats, IMs is not allowed within Second Life, but that is where the ToS ends at. I can post whatever is said to me anywhere else and there is nothing that anyone can do about it.

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I often see this quoted that "there is nothing that anyone can do about it" but there is.  Your Second Life account can be terminated for many reasons and who are you going to complain to?  "Lindens" by the very obfuscation that exists, are mostly faceless to the residents of SL.

In other words, should one of them choose to ban you, good luck complaining to Faceless Linden about Random Linden who told Slopeyshoulders Linden to delete your account for a laugh for posting something nasty about whatever that was dug up on some other website.

 

[TristanMercer]

Linden Lab Terms of Service is a legal document that DOES NOT extend beyond their servers. That is fact.

 

[Sassy Romano]

Be very careful with your comprehension.

I didn't say that they extended beyond Second Life, what I did say is that they very much can do something if they wish to and there's not much that YOU can do about it.

[TristanMercer]

Linden Lab cannot punish you for something said about them, another resident or anything of the sort outside of SL servers.

They is inviting a lawsuit that would surely be won by the complaintant.

[Freya Mokusei]

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TristanMercer wrote:

They is inviting a lawsuit that would surely be won by the complaintant.

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Nope. Read ToS, LL can ban users for any reason at all (or no reason) and there is no legal recourse to this.

LL don't typically ban people for dumb stuff they post on other servers = TRUE.

LL can ban people for dumb stuff they post on other servers = TRUE. (I would go so far as to say that they have banned people for this, but I'd be unable to name cases. Suggest Google.)

Don't mistake correlation for causation. And don't take legal advice from anyone who uses the word 'complaintant'.

[Sassy Romano]

Let me ask you this, what legal right do you feel you have to use the service provided by Linden Lab?

See, you keep editing, i'm not saying they do go around banning for things being said on third party sites but they can if they choose.  Not much you can do about it if they do.  You have no legal given right to access Second Life, at all.  None.

 

[TristanMercer]

Just the same right as you do. Don't go getting your panties all twisted into a knot.

[Kwakkelde Kwak]

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TristanMercer wrote:

Linden Lab Terms of Service is a legal document that DOES NOT extend beyond their servers. That is fact.

 

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Why is that "fact"?

[TristanMercer]

I am not going to explain the legality of the Terms of Service. Consult Google or your attorney.

[Sassy Romano]

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TristanMercer wrote:

Just the same right as you do. Don't go getting your panties all twisted into a knot.

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Exactly.  No right at all.  I'm not getting anything twisted, just correcting the commonly and incorrectly held assertion that there's nothing LL can do.  They can deny access for any reason at all, you found that part yourself.

They can, really they can

[Kwakkelde Kwak]

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TristanMercer wrote:

I am not going to explain the legality of the Terms of Service. Consult Google or your attorney.

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Or are you not going to explain because it's a load of nonsense?

[Freya Mokusei]

Maybe just because it's difficult to defend points made without supporting evidence.

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TristanMercer wrote:

I can post whatever is said to me anywhere else and there is nothing that anyone can do about it.

Linden Lab Terms of Service is a legal document that DOES NOT extend beyond their servers. That is fact.

Linden Lab cannot punish you for something said about them, another resident or anything of the sort outside of SL servers.

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 These are all lies. This is a fact.

Now we're even, right?

[Kwakkelde Kwak]

Good to know, I was just about to get some top-notch legal advice from google.

[Freya Mokusei]

I tried Google, but it just links me to this:-

SL JIRA: ARVD-38

No idea why...

[Blaze Nielsen]

I think what a lot of people are unaware of are various state laws in the US regarding privacy rights. I believe in about a dozen states if you record a private conversation and reveal it, you can be in for a world of legal hurt. This has nothing to do with the Linden Lab TOS. If the damaged party chooses to pursue a case, they subpeona your rl name and information, then take you to court.

[Beauty Haramori]

I looked there and there is NOTHING listed.  How do you find CHAT logs when nothing is listed?

[Perrie Juran]

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Beauty Haramori wrote:

I looked there and there is NOTHING listed.  How do you find CHAT logs when nothing is listed?

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First, do you have 'save log & transcripts' selected.  If not, nothing will be saved.

Second, the destination folder will only appear when you are logged in.

[Innula Zenovka]

As Perrie says, you won't find anything unless you have the viewer set to record chat and logs.

Also, by default in Windows, the logs get saved to a sub-folder of .appdata, which is itself, by default, a hidden folder.    So if you mean you can't find .appdata, follow the instructions here: http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/394-hidden-files-folders-show-hide.html