Storm Clarence Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 MissManaged wrote: Thank you Porky for your thoughts and suggestions, While I, personally, am not a character in this show, I have seen some who do walk away, yet they still seem to be listed in the credits. This is *your* show. This is *your* OP. Again, you can't have it both ways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissManaged Posted February 21, 2013 Author Share Posted February 21, 2013 Porky Gorky wrote: MissManaged wrote: Hello Porky, While I do agree that the drama is fabricated for entertainment purposes, I feel that it is unfair (I know, I know, what in this world is fair?) that just because one chooses to utilize this application they must be prepared to endure the harassment. You are hardly enduring it now are you? You are embracing it, You have a flair for the dramatic as evidenced by the prose of your OP, your character in this soap opera is the victim, but you are still choosing to play the role, rather than just walking away. You are embracing your character and your part in the drama by launching this spin off show on the forums in which you engage in "banter" with some of your tormentors whilst most onlookers don't really care or are too busy playing "guess the Alt". If you truly are a victim in this scenario then here is some advice, walk away from the feeds and never look back, disassociate yourself from your tormentors rather than just openly inviting them onto your spinoff show here. It's not fair, it's not just, but life rarely is. You have the power to extradite yourself from your current situation in an instance. Yet the show must go on, right? Porky, I revisited your post here, and while I do not totally agree, I do think you have something here. It involves the perception of power. Those who are the “victims” give too much power to the ones tormenting them. Perhaps the answer is a compromise. Not necessarily leaving the feed behind and never looking back, but what about simply carrying on without giving credence to them by refusing to acknowledge them or their slights? It seems to me that this would leave them “twisting in the wind” so to speak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Czari Zenovka Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 Keriwena wrote: I have yet to wander into that dark alley, but I shall heed your admonitions. Mostly, I just wanted to say that post is a marvelous piece of prose. Same here - on both points, although I have no intention of entering the dark alley; I take the same precautions online that I do offline. To echo Keriwena - excellent piece of writing!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griffin Ceawlin Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 MissManaged wrote: “Loyalty” demands that one condemn those that they themselves have no issue with. ~ I believe there is a difference between condemning a person and condemning an action. I may like you, but I don’t have to love everything you say, nor agree with everything you do. I may, in fact, really thoroughly dislike something you say and do, and therefore feel a need to condemn your words or actions. Oh, but in that dark alley, no "fence-sitting" is allowed. You're either on "our" side or "theirs". So sorry. Reading a single post on someone’s feed equal “watching” or “stalking”~ This one made me chuckle a bit. I suppose I myself could be deemed a “watcher”. I think you may cross the line into stalking when it becomes necessary to log in as an alt simply to view the feed of someone you dislike and then criticise them on your own feed for what they have said. It needn't even be as an alt. In fact, little to no previous interaction with the accuser is required. A simple reference to having read something, not even something that they themselves wrote, on their feed is all that's needed. (I have recent personal experience in this area.) If you don’t like the way a discussion is going, you can just delete all of your comments. ~ I have seen this one. It seems that this can be a way to get at the OP as well as a means of self preservation. Given the nature of the feed in association with the muting practices, it seems one could easily mute someone and then carry on spamming their inbox in a thread they are now locked out of. Yes, I know of people who've placed one comment on a feed post who woke up to find their Inbox full. One has to wonder whether the SPAMmers have nothing better to do. Some will even go to a months-old post to deliver their "payload". One’s political affiliation can be used as a club in a discussion that has naught to do with politics. ~ I think this goes for more than simply politics. I’ve seen the club wielded for many subject that have nothing to do with the OP. It happens here on the forum and elsewhere in life. “Your opinion doesn’t count because you’re wearing a red shirt!” Some will go about this in the most underhanded way, though. "You're a Libertarian? You must be an Ayn Rand fan. Did you know that an axe murderer and child rapist was to be a model for a character in one of her unfinished novels? You must support child murder and rape!!!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissManaged Posted February 21, 2013 Author Share Posted February 21, 2013 Storm Clarence wrote: MissManaged wrote: Thank you Porky for your thoughts and suggestions, While I, personally, am not a character in this show, I have seen some who do walk away, yet they still seem to be listed in the credits. This is *your* show. This is *your* OP. Again, you can't have it both ways. If it is my "show" then I would imagine I could have it any way I pleased. However, I took Porky's reference of "show" to mean the feed, in which I do not participate, therefore, I am not a character. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laetizia Coronet Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 Being muted means that someone doesn't want to talk to you anymore. Whether that's Criffin Ceawlin or GriffinsAlt Resident (this is an example I made up - 'scuse me if the account actually exists) should not make a difference. In other words, if you use alts to hammer your little point home despite being muted, you're already harrassing. Use two alts and you know you have a problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Storm Clarence Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 MissManaged wrote: Storm Clarence wrote: MissManaged wrote: Thank you Porky for your thoughts and suggestions, While I, personally, am not a character in this show, I have seen some who do walk away, yet they still seem to be listed in the credits. This is *your* show. This is *your* OP. Again, you can't have it both ways. If it is my "show" then I would imagine I could have it any way I pleased. However, I took Porky's reference of "show" to mean the feed, in which I do not participate, therefore, I am not a character. Yes you can. But don't try to convince the audience that you are NOT a character in the show (or a dancer in the dance) when it is *your* show and *you* are playing the lead part. Many a show has collapsed because the audience was NOT fooled... or do you just think that no one is paying attention to what you are presenting? There are too many contradictions in your posts... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griffin Ceawlin Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 But then they continue to respond to them on the feeds, or "talk" to them on Twitter, etc. It sends a very confusing message... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griffin Ceawlin Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 MissManaged wrote: ... the feed, in which I do not participate, therefore, I am not a character. I'm sorry, but I find this very difficult to believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laetizia Coronet Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 If you can't handle a bit of confusion then maybe the telephone is your social medium of choice - but stay away from conference calls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Storm Clarence Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 Laetizia Coronet wrote: ... In other words, if you use alts to hammer your little point home despite being muted, you're already harrassing. Use two alts and you know you have a problem. I absolutely 'LOVE' this^^ post. Looks around at the majority of participants to this thread. PS One 'r' in harassing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griffin Ceawlin Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 Laetizia Coronet wrote: If you can't handle a bit of confusion then maybe the telephone is your social medium of choice - but stay away from conference calls. Actually, I very much dislike talking on the phone, and don't get me started on conference calls... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laetizia Coronet Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 I disapprove of this use of alts 95% of the time. I make an exception for people who are almost forced to use alts because their opponents swoop in on everything they say as their main account. But that's a different story. PS, participants "in", not "to". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griffin Ceawlin Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 Laetizia Coronet wrote: I disapprove of this use of alts 95% of the time. I make an exception for people who are almost forced to use alts because their opponents swoop in on everything they say as their main account. But that's a different story. PS, participants "in", not "to". So, you've never been there cheering on the use of griefer alts, Tish? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laetizia Coronet Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 "Griefer alt" is not a term I'd use in this case, but not that I know of. Why do you ask? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griffin Ceawlin Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 I seem to recall you "loving" the feed posts of an alt that was created for the purpose of helping to disseminate the RL info of someone. Correct me if I'm wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Storm Clarence Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 Griffin Ceawlin wrote: Laetizia Coronet wrote: I disapprove of this use of alts 95% of the time. I make an exception for people who are almost forced to use alts because their opponents swoop in on everything they say as their main account. But that's a different story. PS, participants "in", not "to". So, you've never been there cheering on the use of griefer alts, Tish? Or, it's not like one is threatening to "kick your teeth out" or anything like that. I have tough time understanding the definition of "almost forced". Is it something like: "I don't agree with you and I don't like you, and you don't like me, so I am almost forced to use an alt to hammer home my point." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baby Kranfel Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 It's a good idea to back away from this thread and let it cool off. I would hate to see it deleted there are to many good points posted. Wonders if c/p from feeds is cross posting..Oh well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laetizia Coronet Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 I think my words have been clear enough. I don't see why you think it is necessary to doubt them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griffin Ceawlin Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 Because there is often a disconnect between what people say and what they do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laetizia Coronet Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 Not quite. I mean when someone for example uses an alt to start a topic, in order to avoid that her "enemies" or "trolls" or whatchamacallit come down to ruin any sensible discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laetizia Coronet Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 Word. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griffin Ceawlin Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 baby Kranfel wrote: It's a good idea to back away from this thread and let it cool off. Who appointed you hall monitor? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted McGregor Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 MissManaged wrote: Linden Lab would do well to take a closer look at their alley and the ever growing sewage spill that may well end up lowering the property value. I hope that Linden Lab decides to clean up the alley, it's beginning to stink. Why, oh why, did you open the sewer's lid ? :robotsad: Goddemmit ..... :robotmad: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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