MissManaged

I shall pop some fresh popcorn!

I would like to thank all who participated in this thread. I imagine as Baby said, it will not last long due to the spamming. It is certainly apparent that some here have proved my point with great ease. A quick glance at my.secondlife.com and the “Trending” tab verifies what I’ve seen. Wouldn’t it be wonderful if there were a “feed” version of the Corn Field?

Kylie Jaxxon wrote: MissManaged wrote: Many people write under a pen name, I am simply doing the same. Does it matter if I post as MissManaged or another name? I have been nothing but polite and friendly to all who have posted here. I see no need for rude behavior or hot words. If I have offended you as well, I offer my apologies. What do you mean by "how long must the charade continue?" Are you insisting I post another name here? If I may put my two cents in? The problem is that most think they know who you are and your association with a certain "camp." Of course, they are going to be on the defensive right off the bat... Hello Kylie, I see. Well, at least they are entertained.

Caitlin Tobias wrote: MissManaged wrote: Caitlin Tobias wrote: MissManaged wrote: Caitlin Tobias wrote: OK. What a load of.......BS. You are also a charactar in this show, by creating an alt and writing this piece of prose - meant to express your...what exactly? You too, even as socalled bystander and reader only, play your part in the 'show', the moment you hit enter on this post. Sure, you can focus on the drama, but hey....isn't that all depending on the list of ppl you choose to follow? I, for one, enjoy the feed immensly and mostly only see positive posts and pictures and people sharing places and experiences that enhance my overall second life. I do my best to return that cheerful favour and I think I manage. You on the other hand, seem to focus on the drama and darkness. It is a choice you know. Look at your friendlist and people you choose to follow, and then think. It may well be the company YOU keep that makes it your 'walk in the dar'k, as for many others it is certainly not. Hello Caitlin, Perhaps you misunderstood when I said I am not a character. I was referring to the “games” played in the feed. I am not a character in that game, though your point is in fact valid that by posting this, I have become somewhat involved. Apparently you feel I now belong in one camp or the other, as it were. Although it is difficult to determine in typed words, you appear agitated and somewhat hostile in your reply to this post in general. I thought it was implied that this post is simply my opinion. I certainly hope that you did not take serious offense to what I’ve written, as it is not my intention to offend anyone. I did not mean to disturb your sensitive nature. My sincere apologies if I have. I am pleased that you enjoy the feeds. It appears to me that others do as well, and as I stated before, they could be even more enjoyable sans the hostility, harassment, and animosity. So you know, it is not my friends who make the walk dark, they have nothing to do with this. It is those who choose to pounce on new individuals as they attempt to introduce themselves who darken this particular alley. While I value the opinions of all posters, I do not feel that what I’ve written is a “load of ……BS”. This was written to express my thoughts on my.secondlife.com, which again, I thought was clear. ETA: To fix a grammatical error LOL and thank you so much for this reply. I am sure you have no idea why I am thankful, but yeah it puts things in perspective now I know who I am talking to. I hope the reply to me did not cause you too much stress and anger, and....another walk in the dark. I do not play 'games' in the feed, I am sure you (as you are familiar with it) have seen my contributions and even you must see they are pretty clear and straight forward. I will leave the 'playing games' to others, like you, and will read it, then scroll and...smh..... Have a nice day! Goodness, you seem to really take this personally. There no stress or anger in my reply, and I must express apologies once again if you felt there were. I do hope you have a nice day as well. Oh no dearie, not at all. I am smiling and having a wonderful evening reading all this. Keep it up, you are a blast! Oh, and I am looking forward to your pics on the feed soon! Oh brilliant! This is what I would like to see for everyone! I’m well pleased that you are smiling and laughing. I am however, sad to say that I'm terrible at photography in SL, so there will be no photos from me any time soon.

Griffin Ceawlin wrote: MissManaged wrote: Apparently you feel I now belong in one camp or the other, as it were. It's quite obvious that you are in one of the camps. If you weren't, there would have been no need to post quite so... anonymously. How long must the charade continue? Many people write under a pen name, I am simply doing the same. Does it matter if I post as MissManaged or another name? I have been nothing but polite and friendly to all who have posted here. I see no need for rude behavior or hot words. If I have offended you as well, I offer my apologies. What do you mean by "how long must the charade continue?" Are you insisting I post another name here?

Caitlin Tobias wrote: MissManaged wrote: Caitlin Tobias wrote: OK. What a load of.......BS. You are also a charactar in this show, by creating an alt and writing this piece of prose - meant to express your...what exactly? You too, even as socalled bystander and reader only, play your part in the 'show', the moment you hit enter on this post. Sure, you can focus on the drama, but hey....isn't that all depending on the list of ppl you choose to follow? I, for one, enjoy the feed immensly and mostly only see positive posts and pictures and people sharing places and experiences that enhance my overall second life. I do my best to return that cheerful favour and I think I manage. You on the other hand, seem to focus on the drama and darkness. It is a choice you know. Look at your friendlist and people you choose to follow, and then think. It may well be the company YOU keep that makes it your 'walk in the dar'k, as for many others it is certainly not. Hello Caitlin, Perhaps you misunderstood when I said I am not a character. I was referring to the “games” played in the feed. I am not a character in that game, though your point is in fact valid that by posting this, I have become somewhat involved. Apparently you feel I now belong in one camp or the other, as it were. Although it is difficult to determine in typed words, you appear agitated and somewhat hostile in your reply to this post in general. I thought it was implied that this post is simply my opinion. I certainly hope that you did not take serious offense to what I’ve written, as it is not my intention to offend anyone. I did not mean to disturb your sensitive nature. My sincere apologies if I have. I am pleased that you enjoy the feeds. It appears to me that others do as well, and as I stated before, they could be even more enjoyable sans the hostility, harassment, and animosity. So you know, it is not my friends who make the walk dark, they have nothing to do with this. It is those who choose to pounce on new individuals as they attempt to introduce themselves who darken this particular alley. While I value the opinions of all posters, I do not feel that what I’ve written is a “load of ……BS”. This was written to express my thoughts on my.secondlife.com, which again, I thought was clear. ETA: To fix a grammatical error LOL and thank you so much for this reply. I am sure you have no idea why I am thankful, but yeah it puts things in perspective now I know who I am talking to. I hope the reply to me did not cause you too much stress and anger, and....another walk in the dark. I do not play 'games' in the feed, I am sure you (as you are familiar with it) have seen my contributions and even you must see they are pretty clear and straight forward. I will leave the 'playing games' to others, like you, and will read it, then scroll and...smh..... Have a nice day! Goodness, you seem to really take this personally. There no stress or anger in my reply, and I must express apologies once again if you felt there were. I do hope you have a nice day as well.

baby Kranfel wrote: The pools filling up it seems. I really don't understand why this post can cause so much uneasiness among some. I like the topic and the direction, for those that use the tool it is not odd that they would like to enjoy it without interference, just because. Don't you think? Hello Baby, This is an interesting point, and one that had not occurred to me until now. My post did not mention names, nor did it point fingers at one group over another. Yet some seem to have gotten rather defensive. I was simply indicating there is a problem with the website, stating my opinion. I’m quite sure I am not the only non-participant who has felt this way.

Caitlin Tobias wrote: OK. What a load of.......BS. You are also a charactar in this show, by creating an alt and writing this piece of prose - meant to express your...what exactly? You too, even as socalled bystander and reader only, play your part in the 'show', the moment you hit enter on this post. Sure, you can focus on the drama, but hey....isn't that all depending on the list of ppl you choose to follow? I, for one, enjoy the feed immensly and mostly only see positive posts and pictures and people sharing places and experiences that enhance my overall second life. I do my best to return that cheerful favour and I think I manage. You on the other hand, seem to focus on the drama and darkness. It is a choice you know. Look at your friendlist and people you choose to follow, and then think. It may well be the company YOU keep that makes it your 'walk in the dar'k, as for many others it is certainly not. Hello Caitlin, Perhaps you misunderstood when I said I am not a character. I was referring to the “games” played in the feed. I am not a character in that game, though your point is in fact valid that by posting this, I have become somewhat involved. Apparently you feel I now belong in one camp or the other, as it were. Although it is difficult to determine in typed words, you appear agitated and somewhat hostile in your reply to this post in general. I thought it was implied that this post is simply my opinion. I certainly hope that you did not take serious offense to what I’ve written, as it is not my intention to offend anyone. I did not mean to disturb your sensitive nature. My sincere apologies if I have. I am pleased that you enjoy the feeds. It appears to me that others do as well, and as I stated before, they could be even more enjoyable sans the hostility, harassment, and animosity. So you know, it is not my friends who make the walk dark, they have nothing to do with this. It is those who choose to pounce on new individuals as they attempt to introduce themselves who darken this particular alley. While I value the opinions of all posters, I do not feel that what I’ve written is a “load of ……BS”. This was written to express my thoughts on my.secondlife.com, which again, I thought was clear. ETA: To fix a grammatical error

Storm Clarence wrote: MissManaged wrote: Thank you Porky for your thoughts and suggestions, While I, personally, am not a character in this show, I have seen some who do walk away, yet they still seem to be listed in the credits. This is *your* show. This is *your* OP. Again, you can't have it both ways. If it is my "show" then I would imagine I could have it any way I pleased. However, I took Porky's reference of "show" to mean the feed, in which I do not participate, therefore, I am not a character.

Porky Gorky wrote: MissManaged wrote: Hello Porky, While I do agree that the drama is fabricated for entertainment purposes, I feel that it is unfair (I know, I know, what in this world is fair?) that just because one chooses to utilize this application they must be prepared to endure the harassment. You are hardly enduring it now are you? You are embracing it, You have a flair for the dramatic as evidenced by the prose of your OP, your character in this soap opera is the victim, but you are still choosing to play the role, rather than just walking away. You are embracing your character and your part in the drama by launching this spin off show on the forums in which you engage in "banter" with some of your tormentors whilst most onlookers don't really care or are too busy playing "guess the Alt". If you truly are a victim in this scenario then here is some advice, walk away from the feeds and never look back, disassociate yourself from your tormentors rather than just openly inviting them onto your spinoff show here. It's not fair, it's not just, but life rarely is. You have the power to extradite yourself from your current situation in an instance. Yet the show must go on, right? Porky, I revisited your post here, and while I do not totally agree, I do think you have something here. It involves the perception of power. Those who are the “victims” give too much power to the ones tormenting them. Perhaps the answer is a compromise. Not necessarily leaving the feed behind and never looking back, but what about simply carrying on without giving credence to them by refusing to acknowledge them or their slights? It seems to me that this would leave them “twisting in the wind” so to speak.

Porky Gorky wrote: MissManaged wrote: Hello Porky, While I do agree that the drama is fabricated for entertainment purposes, I feel that it is unfair (I know, I know, what in this world is fair?) that just because one chooses to utilize this application they must be prepared to endure the harassment. You are hardly enduring it now are you? You are embracing it, You have a flair for the dramatic as evidenced by the prose of your OP, your character in this soap opera is the victim, but you are still choosing to play the role, rather than just walking away. You are embracing your character and your part in the drama by launching this spin off show on the forums in which you engage in "banter" with some of your tormentors whilst most onlookers don't really care or are too busy playing "guess the Alt". If you truly are a victim in this scenario then here is some advice, walk away from the feeds and never look back, disassociate yourself from your tormentors rather than just openly inviting them onto your spinoff show here. It's not fair, it's not just, but life rarely is. You have the power to extradite yourself from your current situation in an instance. Yet the show must go on, right? Thank you Porky for your thoughts and suggestions, I am simply an observer, there are others like me out there, I have just made the choice to express my thoughts here. While I, personally, am not a character in this show, I have seen some who do walk away, yet they still seem to be listed in the credits.

ThoughtPOLICE wrote: idk why I'm weighing in, but . . . it always seemed to me that the point of my2L was to draw bandwidth away from inworld bandwidth. So people could continue their drama without logging in, for a start, and also save all the greifing that happens by throwing prims about when they can't control their rage. But I'm only guessing, it was just an impression I got and still have. I could be wrong but even so, I hope it has managed to go some way towards achieving that anyway. {^?^} do you think? yours, Thought POLICE Hello Thought POLICE, That is one possibility.

Griffin Ceawlin wrote: baby Kranfel wrote: Everything has checks and balances, the above mentality would not last in RL (liable is legal action), it would not last her in SLF because the mods would apply the ToS to correct it and the poster, but it does happen in the feeds because no rules apply. I'll assume you mean libel. You mean like... someone, completely unfounded, alleging that someone is a pedophile? Yeah. Utterly disgusting. Precisely why the feeds need to be cleaned up, would you not agree? I’ve seen some equally disgusting things stated. Some of those participants can get down and dirty with some pretty nasty comments made, often on topics that should be off limits.

Griffin Ceawlin wrote: Ah, the feeds. Where everything is black or white. Where who or what you "love" can get you shunned... or brand you a criminal. Where "loyalty" demands that one condemn those that they themselves have no issue with. Where reading a single post on someone's feed can equal "watching" or "stalking". Where mutes and unfollows are threatened and announced, and rescinded, daily. Where perceived association with someone labels you their "cheerleader" or their "attack dog". Where, if you don't like the way a discussion is going, you can just delete all of your comments. Where one's political affiliation can be used as a club in a discussion that has naught to do with politics. Where people who have their own feeds closed complain about other people having their feeds closed. Where you can blame your own bad behavior on alcohol or opioids or having a bad day or... Where cliques are bad. Unless it's your clique, of course. Where people whose friends just can't seem to "scroll on by" advise other people to... "scroll on by". Hello Griffin, That is an interesting list you’ve compiled. I see some of the behaviors you’ve mentioned here displayed by almost all who participate on the feed. Let me try to tackle this one line at a time. Everything is black or white~ Not necessarily. I think that there are levels of involvement; some are deeply entrenched and quite deliberate in their attempts at hounding and harassing, while others are causal observers who somehow get caught up accidently. Nothing is strictly black and white in this alley. Who or what you “love” can get you shunned ~ Context is everything. From my observations, I’ve learned that I would certainly be very cautious what I would or would not love for fear of offending someone I care about. We should keep in mind, however “You can please some of the people all of the time, you can please all of the people some of the time, but you can’t please all of the people all of the time”. John Lydgate via Abraham Lincoln “Loyalty” demands that one condemn those that they themselves have no issue with. ~ I believe there is a difference between condemning a person and condemning an action. I may like you, but I don’t have to love everything you say, nor agree with everything you do. I may, in fact, really thoroughly dislike something you say and do, and therefore feel a need to condemn your words or actions. Reading a single post on someone’s feed equal “watching” or “stalking”~ This one made me chuckle a bit. I suppose I myself could be deemed a “watcher”. I think you may cross the line into stalking when it becomes necessary to log in as an alt simply to view the feed of someone you dislike and then criticise them on your own feed for what they have said. This seems a bit like stalking to me, in a childish sort of way. I must say though, I have also seen someone be accused of stalking for simply being on the same sim as someone, when the accuser was not even online. As Storm said earlier, “perspective is everything”. Mutes and unfollows are threatened and announced, and rescinded, daily ~ Ah, yes. Some people seem to use friendship as if it were a leveraging device, while others who would be better off muting someone refuse to censor. This is a case of, “damned if you do, damned if you don’t”. While I believe those tools are useful, the announcement of using them is simply ploy for attention, as is the public announcement that you have been muted, unfollowed. Dynamics change, people move on, people become disillusioned with the actions of another, such is life. Perceived association with someone labels you their “cheerleader” or their “attack dog” ~ Again, I’ve seen both “sides” throw this one out. I would only say “Actions speak louder than words”. If you don’t like the way a discussion is going, you can just delete all of your comments. ~ I have seen this one. It seems that this can be a way to get at the OP as well as a means of self preservation. Given the nature of the feed in association with the muting practices, it seems one could easily mute someone and then carry on spamming their inbox in a thread they are now locked out of. In addition to this, some people simply tire of endless back and forth followed by back patting and withdraw their comments to avoid further notifications. I can see the plus side to this one. One’s political affiliation can be used as a club in a discussion that has naught to do with politics. ~ I think this goes for more than simply politics. I’ve seen the club wielded for many subject that have nothing to do with the OP. It happens here on the forum and elsewhere in life. “Your opinion doesn’t count because you’re wearing a red shirt!” People who have their feed closed complain about other people having their feeds closed. ~ This is a bit like a never ending circle is it not? You can blame your own bad behavior on alcohol or opioids or having a bad day or…~ the weather, or traffic, or your boss, or the dog, bad take out food… Cliques are bad. Unless it’s your clique, of course ~ this sounds a bit like a gang. Crips and Bloods? People whose friends just can’t seem to “scroll on by” advise other people to…”scroll on by”. ~ Interestingly enough, I saw this one yesterday in my daily perusing of the feed. Again, it works both ways. I would suggest to those who do that “practice what you preach”. Thank you Griffin for some interesting perspective.

baby Kranfel wrote: Does not good dancing result from both people dancing to the same music? If that's not the case then the result is only mayhem, I would think. Are we discussing the act of the dance or the environment? Hello Baby, Your comment here made me think of an interesting experiment that I must try at some point. I wonder how silly it would be to give two individuals an MP3 player with two different genres of music playing and ask them to dance together. I was discussing the environment.