Selene Gregoire
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A thought just occurred to me. Is LL trying to recoup its losses on Sansar by these changes and rate hikes? Could be a very strong possibility. Make us pay for not transitioning over to Sansar. I mean, I know LL can be nefarious at times but damn. That would really take the cake.
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2 minutes ago, RaeLeeH said:
It's probably not intended that way, and I don't want to step on anyone's toes at all, but I have a minor store on the Marketplace and no in-world store. I pay for a premium account but the only land I own is Linden Land in Bellisseria. It would be good to earn enough from my store to be able to purchase and rent additional land in order to have an in-world store for customers such as yourself who only purchase in-world and not on MP; but it's not always viable. And certainly not for small-time merchants like myself. Yes, I could give up my LH and rent a mainland parcel big enough to accommodate both a retail space and a private section for my "home" but if sales aren't great I'm spending more than I earn. There's no profit in that.
Please re-read my post. I did NOT say I never purchase from the MP. I do make exceptions. Just not very often and it has to be something that I can't substitute some thing else for.
I don't even know what you sell so it may be that your products aren't something I would purchase. I'm not saying that to hurt your feelings or make you angry. Send me a link to your store, please, and I'll be happy to take a look and maybe purchase something (will have to be no more than 50Ls since that's all the stipend I get each week). I do believe very strongly in supporting "local" businesses when I can.
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35 minutes ago, Gadget Portal said:
Still 229 for a full region.
I can rent an entire server, 3+ GHz, 8 cores or more, with 96 gigs of RAM, for less than that. I guarantee we're not getting that much hardware dedicated to our 229 sim. At best we're getting a VM that's running on a server already hosting others.
And being premium still doesn't offer a lot for the cost when regions are still that expensive.
High membership cost, high L$ cost, high land cost... I'll just go play an MMO that makes me pay one reasonable price and gives me access to everything. Or for the same price as being a member of SL, I'll host an entire MMO for 600 people.
There are some rumors flying around that there are several groups of people who are working in Unity to create virtual worlds that are supposed to be far better than SL. I don't know if this is fact or not but I have seen signs that it is true. So maybe those of us who are slowly being forced out of SL will have a place to go in the fairly near future. I hope.
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4 minutes ago, Ginger Xuisse said:
Agreeing with Nextio and also adding that a lot of basic members do things in SL , for example DJing, promoting stores, blogging and the list goes on. Some just live on pure social lives belonging to multiple social and gaming groups. I mean, having 32 groups would've been nice if it was the only thing everyone knew but giving people 42 to then take it away is a crappy thing to do. If you are not going to make it better then leave it as it is.
My real life other half is a DJ in SL*. He is also basic. He's not happy about the group thing either.
*He was a professional DJ in RL way back in the day and he's damn good at what he does in SL.
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On 5/28/2019 at 3:15 PM, Jerilynn Lemon said:
Bells flared out a bit wider than straight legged jeans. I believe these are elephant bells (yes, ELEPHANT bell bottoms).
Joe Walsh doesn't. He's on record saying such.
Somehow I missed that last line yesterday. It's true. He doesn't remember much. But you know who remembered even less? Jerry Garcia.
RIP Jerry.
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41 minutes ago, IvyLarae said:
Wait what happened to Phil?
Like Rolig said, he flounced gracefully when his premium ran out. Not sure how you missed that when he tended to mention it almost every other post. lol
I am teasing. I probably would have missed it, too, if he hadn't told me directly.
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1 minute ago, Lindal Kidd said:
We all know how you feel about subscribos, Selene! And I agree with you that no one should be added without their consent. But a properly set up subscribo is a good alternative to a traditional store group.
Well... not all of you know. lol
Even the properly set up ones can be a major PITA, especially with the reduced offlines. That right there is the showstopper for subscribos. Reduced offlines for basics. How would you compensate for that? Other than email, since that isn't always an option for some. Granted a very small percentage of the SL population but shouldn't their voices be heard along with everyone else's?
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10 minutes ago, Lindal Kidd said:
Well, I can't say I am happy about the Premium price increase. But really, it should not have come as a big surprise to anyone.
- There have been NO Premium increases for the 12 years I've been in SL. In fact, last year they CUT the monthly Premium rate.
- LL has made no secret of the fact that they are re-balancing their income streams...decreasing the cost of land, while increasing other types of fees
- There have been a lot of Premium benefits added over the last couple of years, with no increase in price until now.
If you think $99 per year is bad...try getting a subscription for Adobe Creative Cloud. Now THERE's a bunch of money-grubbing so-and-so's.
The decrease in group slots for Basic members is also a pretty reasonable move on LL's part, despite the teeth-gnashing from Basic residents. Groups take a ton of back-end resources to support. By taking away groups from Basic accounts and giving more to Premium ones, LL can get away with not having to pay for more resources to support more total groups/group members. At the same time, they increase the perceived value of a Premium membership. For store owners, subscribos have always been a way to get around the "I don't have enough group slots" problem. And we all managed to get by, somehow, with only 30 slots in the past.
lol That's who I was doing customer service for when my job got outsourced. Adobe.
And the company I worked at was Stream, now owned by Convergys.
All three of them suck when it comes to customer service, including LL.
Subscribos... no. Not after the hell I went through being put on a few, without my consent, and trying to get the content creators to remove me from their spam lists. My IMs were capped every. freaking. day. for. months. on end because of ONE that I never subscribed to. Thing is, I have never subscribed to anything in SL so I knew, without a shadow of a doubt, I had not signed up for it.
Some stores have these welcome mats that are scripted (there are other methods less easily detectable) and that is how you get added without your consent by simply walking through the door.
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4 minutes ago, Malin Sabra said:
Mainland will be a post apocalyptic desert.
You have a last name so I have a good idea of how long you've been in SL. In all that time you never noticed Mainland has been a wasteland for... must be getting close to 10 years now?
Shirley you jest!
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There are already three threads covering the subject. In case you didn't notice.
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8 minutes ago, Chic Aeon said:
or maybe just be quiet.
Telling people to sit down and shut up isn't going to cut it either. No, those weren't your exact words but that is what you are saying. Sorry, but in the US we do have freedom of speech and on this forum only LL has the authority to tell someone to sit down and shut up.
What I'm getting at is don't be surprised if you get pushback for that comment.
As for a business plan... that's going to take a while. I've had a bit of experience in starting up a business or two in RL and good business plans aren't hashed out overnight. They can take months to research and write up. I was lucky and able to do mine in a few weeks. For a company the size off LL it will take a good bit longer.
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6 minutes ago, Frankie Antonioni said:
While I do have stuff on the marketplace, I think we should buy less on the marketplace. Or even stop buying on the marketplace. Do this for 90 days. Perhaps more. Merchants would make less money, but LL would also make less money. If you plan to boycott the marketplace, then email LL. Tell them that you are going to boycott the marketplace until LL reverses its policy.
Just fyi, many of us use the MP as a catalog and make our purchases in world. For me, personally, no inworld store? No sale. The exceptions to that rule are slim to none.
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15 minutes ago, CoffeeDujour said:
support via groups has really too low a participation
You should hang out in the FS support group for a couple of days. It's almost always busy with people needing help of all kinds.
I promise I won't harass you. Much.
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16 minutes ago, Frankie Antonioni said:
About OpenSim. What OpenSims are there? I think Avination shut down. So I don't know what OpenSims still exist. Do any of them allow camping? If an OpenSim were to allow camping, but not bots, then more people might join OpenSim.
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7 minutes ago, WillowTenage said:
When I log into Open Sim, I imagine that must be how it once was.
OS if far better now than SL was 15 years ago. Back then, it really was "our world, our imagination". Now? pffft.
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6 minutes ago, steeljane42 said:
Private estates number didn't change at all for this past year after the 15% price decrease. It even did show a small YTD growth around autumn-early spring, but seems like it did bounce back to zero this month. I guess we'll see in a year, was another 8% price cut enough to make it grow a bit or were other negative parts of today's annoncement more important to people and some more will move on completely or stop bothering land at least.
Might help to include a link to Tyche's site.
ETA: I had to look.
Quote- Monthly Tier Estimates - Private Estates c.US$2.970 Million, Mainland c.US$0.704 Million
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9 minutes ago, CoffeeDujour said:
Nothing lasts forever, and there is almost nothing online now that was online when SL started out. No really, I can't think of anything I was doing online in 2003 that still exists.
I can. Active Worlds. And it's been going for almost 25 years now. And in case you don't know what AW is, it's SL's predecessor. No, it's not as graphically pleasing as SL but at least Enzo knows how to keep the doors open without running off more than half the customers.
There used to be an AW refugee group in SL. I don't know if it still exists but at the time (2003-2004) most of the SL residents were AW refugees, myself among them.
Thought you might like to know that some things do last a long time, just not forever.
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17 minutes ago, IvyLarae said:
Sadly thats how its always been viewed, online and RL. The poor are viewed as dead beats who live off the government and the rich are usually the ones imposing that view
I'm poor. I don't get SNAP benefits or welfare or any of those government programs. I don't qualify. Why? I'm either too old, too young, nor do I have children young enough and living at home. All 6 of them are adults, the oldest is almost 45 with the youngest being 25. My point is, just because someone is poor does not mean they get any kind of help from the government agencies OR the churches. I'm just one of hundreds of thousands in this boat.
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5 hours ago, Love Zhaoying said:
I miss Phil.
You know, before the price gouging announcement today, I didn't miss Phil. Now, since the announcement, I do.
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Just now, mehllama said:
And yet, they seem to think free users are like deadbeats or something. It's very irksome.
A "war" I've been fighting against for more than a decade. They've finally worn me down to the point where I'm about ready to say eff it all.
The one thing I won't do though? Go back to Active Worlds. lol
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2 minutes ago, Malarthi Behemoth said:
Erm, they literally just dropped $240/year off the upkeep cost of a full region if I read their little chart right. That's not a tiny thing by any means.
Must be nice to be able to afford $2748 USD a year for a full region once the new rates kick in. Most of us don't have that kind of cash to spare.
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5 minutes ago, Frankie Antonioni said:
The reason that LL is increasing prices, is because they are located in California. California has high taxes, and San Francisco has high rent. LL needs to move out of California. Move to Texas, or Nevada. Texas has no state income tax, and Houston has lower rent. Nevada has no state income tax. And rent should be cheaper in Las Vegas, than in San Francisco. Taxes are only going to go up in California. The same goes for rent in San Francisco. If they own their building, then they will see higher property taxes. LL should also off shore some of their work force to other countries. I suggest India. This would be for something like the old G team, and for support.
I have been talking to some people in different groups in SL. Some are talking about going basic, or stop playing. On this page, I see the same thing being said in SL. I'm not sure what I will do. I do think that everybody should email LL, and tell them what you think.
They wouldn't even have to move that far. Oregon does not have state income tax.ETA: Sorry. I know better since I live in Oregon. Too much has happened today and my brain is rebelling. TBI sucks.
Outsourcing? They did that before. Didn't work out so well. And India? No thank you! for a number of reasons, one of which is I lost a decent job to outsourcing and my life has been hell ever since. I won't get into the incompetence and other things. I'm already ticked off.
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Thank you for clarifying. I wasn't sure.
I still would like to see your products.
Aw shoot. It's the other forum that has the peace sign. This will have to do. ✌️