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I sometimes trawl through MP looking for new full perm clothes as I like to re-design for my personal use to wear rather than sell, and I have noticed in the last year that very few designers are now coming up with new designs its as if the production has grounded to a halt over the year even from the top 5 mesh template clothes designers I only seen a drip feed come onto the market placed whereby in the pasts it was vast. Does this mean that " the river is drying up"? sorry for the metaphor.

Would never say SL has a bad reputation, years ago it was a new thing, most now would except it as a norm, it may have become stale and needs an injection of life.

Seems your rant is little too hysterical, blaming the customers is a sure way of a failed business mind,

Then maybe you can explain why the figures of SL membership have gone down, and really from a business perspective, I would be asking why people are leaving and not joining up and ask myself how can I change it.

I'm actually spending less and less time in SL, Its really needs an injection of something if it wishes to continue and not lose members I would have thought I see the day that I would not miss being in sl.

You make no sense in your reply, try expanding what you're saying so I can engage a debate with you. I'm not versed in morse code.

You make no sense in your reply, try expanding what you're saying so I can engage a debate with you. I'm not versed in morse code.

You have not got a clue about how things work, " Value for money" this is not about personal greed you idiot,( should not assume) it's about me paying for a service that over the years has deteriorated but the prices have steadily gone up, am not the only one complaining about prices, why do you think many land owners have walked away from thier land parcels or left SL, some because thier bored with sl but most is they cannot afford it anymore or is no insentive to stay.

I not sure how much abandoned land there is but LL need to look at retaining the existing landowners and either reduce the Tier prices or give more land for the same price, as it stands global recession is having to make choices on what to cut down and what is a necessity or not in life.

its mesh mate, appliers same as clothes, if you know nothing about creating then suggest you ask rather than be a smart A

Personally, I have given up making tattoos for mesh the time and effort and what one gets for resale is not worth it, I now just make one-offs for personal customers.

I not dodging the mesh bodies because my article was not about that, I am happy to discuss with you mess that LLs caused allowing creators make the mesh bodies and causing all types of grief, I know mesh clothes creators that have to create loads of versions for all the mesh make bodies out there, no mean feat , The meshprojectbody I now been waiting for ages for them to give creators the platform to add tattoos to thier mesh bodies, they not even created the appliers yet . so there is an example.

we slightly gone off the beaten track here, so let's get back to the crux of the article, we can argue till the cows come home about mesh, the underlining issue is what is going to happen to SL.

What are you talking about ???? a base model mesh avatar no one said a body that costs L$1000s who said that???? am talking about a standard mesh body that people get, then if creators want to create new skins modify it and sell, then so be it, but at least it would all be interchangeable and no need for this stupid incompatibility

What gives sl its beauty is its reality to be a second life, and it has the ability to create a generic mesh avatar but maybe now its too late as Sansar is the to them the new kid on the block :-( They have invested in this Sansar and normally investment is drawn away from other projects, I am sure this has been SL.

My point was that LL should have made a generic mesh body that all creators can work with and create their own designs but most importantly all be compatible with each other, Look at the end it's up to LL what they wanna do, keep SL or sell it or do away with it. we can only give our views, All I'm saying I spend lots of money in SL others spend loads more, and if they feel they wasting their money they are going to walk, it like any business it depends on the customers and right I feel they are in decline. Its up to LL now.

One has to respect your views some nice info in what you say and sense too, but I do not think its too late to inject new life in sl, I would think to fix the problems members are fed up with and also good advertising and marketing, they still have a massive database, it's not as if they are starting new, there have been some well stupid mistakes, like allowing creators to make their own exclusive mesh avatars that are not compatible with each other, that was stupid. The doubling of prims to landowners was a great move, maybe now give people more SQft for their tiers or an incentive to keep existing members and landowners. I do think they can steer LL back, sansar I think will not work, but I might be wrong. time will tell for both LL and sansar.

Alwin , I think you do you not have a clue , I now stopped but at one point I was a very successful dj in sl, I never had a problem making 10k a week in tips and payment, everything I have in sl been bought from my work and creativity and marketplace, so "Virtual worlds are always a bottemless pit, " is rubbish, been in sl for around 8 years, so I not talking as if amI wet behind the ears, you only been in sl for 4 years,

I do not have access to LL info, but your right, Sl is in decline and if Alwin is cannot see that, then he needs to speak to members and landowners, am sure they collaborate what am saying, I not interested in Sansar, I have invested £££ loads in Sl, if Sl goes under or gets to the point when I pumping money in a bottomless pit then I will cut my losses and walk away,

Well you seem to think the opposite where is your proof, its well-known people are leaving sl or scaling down, and most of these are the members,

Well it be very stupid for LL to close or neglect SL, just for sansar as that is not 100% to be successful,

is this inside information or your own thoughts?

The persons that are the income to LL's need to be enticed to stay, the landowners to the creators, am hearing members leaving or scaling down to save money, I want to know what LL's is doing about this, Its like the overdue bill that one keeps ignoring, it will come to ahead when you have to confront it, but by that time it will be too late.

I would love to expand my project for people, but their is no way I paying for more tier land at the price, LL's must know that their is a limit to what people can afford, lets not forget its server space, and used or not its sitting there, how much land is LL sitting on that will never be bought?

sorry I might have miss understood what you wrote, I thought you said "Thinking about a standard mesh "avi horrifies me