Peggy Paperdoll

You have shadows enabled. Or maybe some really harsh face light.

I'll try it..........not holding out much hope though. It's mystery, I tell ya. Oh sh**, how do you test this draft thing? If I post it, it's not a draft. Phooey.

Linden Lab refuses to be "innovative"? Are you sure about that? Perhaps you should read this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Life Everything Philip Rosedale (the founder of Linden Lab) did was "innovative". Who did it before? Tell me, who thought of and put those thoughts (or ideas) into play before Linden Lab? What company is the first and last company when someone mentions virtual worlds that is user created? Is that EA sports? Maybe Blizzard Entertainment? Who? LL was built and continues to survive on innovativeness. You need to get some more information before you make such statements. Will the ads be SL's demise? Maybe.....only time will tell. But, let someone who's been reading crap like your post for years, history is not on your side. LL will survive or die on their decisions............but some amateur with no knowledge making statements like "But then again they never been too bright, there are many ways LL could make more money and make sl better but they refuse to be innovative!" is absolutely beyond ignorant. You don't like the ads..............so what? Actually, neither do I but I know enough about life (real life which is what LL's decisions are based upon) to know someone made a decision based on some research and facts. Especially if that someone has made decisions in the past that have advanced the company they are making the decisions for. Since SL has advanced over the years and is still a viable (and, apparently) profitable company those decisions have been sound and good. LL not innovative? Probably one of the most stupid statements I read in years.

I would agree about the ads being Second Life related........that's a pipe dream though. Since practically everything (I would venture to say 99%) in SL is user created that would require the users to pay for those ads. Specifically, the merchants who would profit from such advertisements. With all the whining and crying about how much the merchants put up already (which, in itself, is a crock, in my opinion........unless you are counting only the time involved in producing the content) I highly doubt a single merchant would pay even half the going rate for advertising on the Internet (which is far cheaper than advertising on other media........TV, radio, print, billboards, or other real life methods of advertising). The realities of life do play a very significant part in why LL might have chosen the way and type of ads displayed. When something is not possible, it's futile to argue in favor of that something. Just give it a little thought before you advocate something. Linden Lab "hides" everything for much the same reason I might hide everything. It's not anyone's business how much money I make in real life (not even in SL). I keep it private (in fact I guard it dearly). I don't want you to know it and you have no right to know it. Am I curious? You bet I am. Do, in any way, think LL should tell me? Not on your life. LL is a private company and, just like a private citizen, they have a right to privacy. Are the ads worth it? I don't know. Time will tell. But, despite many who say LL is stupid they have a track record of making money..........if they didn't then explain why they are still in business after 11 years. That's a pretty long time in the tech field.

we're both redheads, after all. **Only uploaded images may be used in postings**://secondlife.i.lithium.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif" border="0" alt=":smileywink:" title="Smiley Wink" /> ----------------------------------- Though that is true (at least on my end) I honestly don't remember ever saying that on the forums. Not to say I didn't......just that I don't remember.

Czari, I know you were not referring to me directly. But I still think you are a little off base in your assumptions about the reasons people might "support" the ads..........and I simply use my personal stance to demonstrate some of the reasons. I think you know by now that I almost never take anything personal on the forums (about the only time I do is when I'm called out personally). I just disagree with your statement in general. I can see now that you were mostly talking about the different general posting between the two sub-forums......I didn't pick on that before. If you will, I'll say why I think there's the difference. The posters on the Marketplace forum have a larger stake in the Marketplace site than us in the general population. Call it a "special interest" group. But a lot of what those merchants are saying is just not true. The ads they see on their pages are ads that are targeting them..........and their customers are seeing different ads. Who knows, the ads those customers are seeing might just enhance the experience and generate more sales for the merchant (not likely since most people don't like ads at all......good or bad ads..........but it's possible). Some of those merchants probably do feel that LL is providing unfair competition........but I would put that in the category of ignorance (a real life ad for JC Pennys is, in no way, competing with Suzi Avatar Clothing Apparal).. And then there's the ones who are screaming that LL should put the merchants ads up instead of the ABC Bail Bonds ads.........I bet LL would do exactly that if the merchant forked over the real dollars for the ads (and I wonder how many would pay for such advertising.........especially since a lot of those merchants pay LL nothing but the 5% commission for each sale). A lot of screaming from people who have only an emotional reaction.......no thought beyond that the don't like it (and the excuses why they don't like it).

I'm sure LL has some level of control.......that depends on how any contract is drawn up with whoever it is that is supplying the ad streams. Despite your contention that I may not know what I'm talking about I do understand how targeted ads are delivered.........and the ads seen on the Second Life sties are targeted ads. Though it's probable that Google is the one LL chose for the ads, that is not something you can say with certainty (Google, undoubtedly has the largest browsing profiles on the Internet so that assumption is a good one.....just not a perfect one). You mentioned in another post that there doesn't seem to be a "need" for revenue on LL's part......but you did qualify that with a "yet". It doesn't matter if LL "needs" revenue to survive..........they certainly do need revenue to progress. Any company who ignores revenue and does not strive for continued revenue streams (and, yes, that includes developing more revenue streams) is destined to cease to exist. Everyone thinks become the millions of dollars LL brings in with Second Life that they don't need more..........are energy costs going up or down in the United States? Are insurance costs going up or down in the United States? Are taxes going up or down in the United States? Your revenue stream remains flat then you are going out of business......very soon. Plus I would love for one of those economics experts that so often spout this junk about LL makes enough to give some overhead costs for an operation like SL.....how much per month for energy? Bandwidth? Hardware? Software? Rent or lease? Taxes (city, county, state, federal)? Manpower maintain the equipment? Payroll? Those costs are never mentioned..........partly because LL doesn't publish them but mostly because it's inconvenient to the argument. You simply don't know if LL "needs" the revenue or not.........and since you don't know you certainly cannot argue otherwise (even with qualifications). If a company has a cap on what it wants to earn then maybe a company can get to a point of not "needing" revenue. But, I don't think Linden Lab (or Linden Research) is such a company.

In three posts you have implicated that you have some level of expertise in marketing, Internet security, privacy, and ethics. That might lead some to think of you as some "professional". Professionals do not make statements like "I'm sure the people saying that are ethically-challenged marketing pimps in RL who should wash their mouths out with soap before discussing (much less judging) anyone else "cheating"." People who don't see things the way you see them are ethnically challenged and marketing pimps? That's always a sign of someone who does not know what they are talking about (maybe they do but are out of legitimate arguments). Professionals don't act that way. Professionals present their arguments without resorting to name calling or degrading the people who are arguing a different point of view......you just lost your argument. I do think Czari is a little off base in her assessment of the people who don't see the ads as a problem (I'm one such person myself). I've never said (or implied) that use of ad or banner blocking software is cheating anyone. I don' think I even mentioned ad-blocking at all. Use the software if you want (I actually do use such software......but it's the Windows ad-blocking which is not very robust). The ads don't bother me and because of that the ads don't "cheapen" the sites who use such advertising..........it's a method for the owners of the sites to pay the bills without charging me to use the site (I actually would not opt to pay to visit any site that does not have a product that I feel worth paying for.........Marketplace is one such site that is simply not worth a single penny of my money to visit. There are very few sites I would even consider paying for....if it's not free to visit and browse then I don't want to be there. Ads keep things free........and I have no issue with any company using them because of that. I can "opt out" of the ads by using an ad-blocker.......as can anyone else That's not cheating and I never said it was (nor did I even think of the word "cheat" when the subject of ad blockers were mentioned). I've also never said (or implied) that if someone doesn't like it, get over it or don't visit the site........but I will admit that that thought has crossed my mind (it amazes me how people can complain about how much it hurts to pound their head against a brick wall, yet continue to pound their head against the brick wall). I can only speak for myself but since I have been participating in the "General Discussions" thread on this subject I just wanted to say I don't think Czari is quite right in her observations of what "proponents" of the ads have said...........I've seen very little support for the ads and what little "support" I have seen is much like my "support". I'm no lover of pop-up ads, targeted ads, or ads in general but I do see their purpose and, to a fairly large degree, their necessity.........I also don't like TV commercials but I'd much rather "suffer" through those idiotic advertisements than have to pay to watch "Dancing with the Stars". Small sacrifice in my mind. However I didn't even jump into this discussion about ads on Marketplace to voice my objections or support one way or the other. I jumped in because some people where all "up in arms" about the type of ads they were seeing. Somehow some were seeing "smut" and it was Linden Lab's fault because they were pushing porn to the users of Marketplace....."cheapening" the merchants products. If anyone has been on the Internet more than a few days they have a profile......Google and Facebook are the biggest profile producers on the Internet. They don't develop those profiles for the fun of it. The build those profiles to sell to advertisers.........to make money. The money they make is from advertisers letting the users have free access.......but the users get the ads (pop-ups, banners etc). The profile shows the users' web browsing habits which, in turn, shows the advertisers which user might be more interested in the product they want to sell......that's call targeted advertising. That profile is sold (without any personally identifiable information).........and the marketer presents and ad that will fit that profile. You browse gardening sites you get "Miracle Grow" ads. You browse new car sites you get "Ford F-150" ads. You browse adult sites you get smut. LL has nothing to do with the ads your see.......your web browsing habits have everything to do it. That's "data mining". There's nothing you can do to prevent it as long as the Internet is free.......you are being profiled and will continue to be profiled as long as you access the Internet. You will be targeted by advertisers because of that profile. Even with ad-blockers you will be profiled. You can delete cookies, you can block cookies......that will not prevent you from being profiled (it show it down but the public IP address is still being logged and a profile is being developed). There is nothing inherently sinister in "data mining" as long as not personal information is obtained. There is only one way to prevent being profiled (or "tracked").........get off the Internet (smart phones, tablets, computers, smart TV's, those fancy network security systems......stop any digital activity) And that is pretty much impossible. You're defense is being smart.........keep personal information encrypted and protect it with your life, think what you are doing, pay attention to the site you are on (if there in no "s" at the end of http then it's not encrypted and not secure). Common sense. And never, ever, think that you are "safe" because you know better.........you don't know better (no one knows better.......someone is always going to out smart you no matter how smart you think you are).

It didn't work. Ahhhh.........there goes my theory.

Oh boy, chocolate chip!!! Who needs more compensation than that.

Did we all get promoted (or hired)? I mean I've never been addressed as staff here in Answers. But to your question. Yes, I have seen that phenomenon a couple times before (well, maybe only one time that I can remember). I spent a few minutes looking in all the permalinks for that phantom post.........never found it. I wrote it off to someone posting something (possibly as a permalink comment) and then came back and deleted it. That was my guess anyway.

It's not an SL problem nor a viewer problem. It's a connection problem. The first step in resolving a connection problem is to reboot your modem and router (unplug them for 3 to 5 minutes, plug back in, reboot your computer and try SL again). That's only the very first step which fixes about half the issues.......so it that does not get you back running properly come back and give us a little more to work with (like some computer specs, how you connect to the Internet and what SL viewer you use). No one can help much without some information.

You are dreaming. Yeah, you can limit who might track you or make it more difficult to be tracked but you cannot, without a doubt prevent being tracked. The best you can do is make sure what information about you is revealed is benign (no personal information). But your IP address that is assigned to your account by your ISP is public information. The IP is assigned to you by your ISP for a specific time frame if your IP address is dynamic (which most home accounts are). As long as that IP address leads to your ISP your ISP will direct the cookie to your computer......you can block it and/or delete it from your computer so that it is not stored (which means it will not report back to the site that placed it, but it's still has the address and your ISP will continue to route the cookie to you). Changing your IP address will prevent further "tracking"......until you visit that site again (then it starts all over again). You're just fooling yourself if you think you can browse the Internet and not be tracked. Stop lying to yourself and understand what is going on and you'll be so much safer than declaring "Um no, the people who try to track me are my worst enemy, not myself!"

You know I wondered for weeks why I got oil change coupons ads when I was visiting some sites (and even a few in my email..........I don't filter my email. I deal with it on a case by case basis). I never visited any auto repair site (nor did I search for one). I never visited any "how to" site about oil changing (I already know how to do that). But here I was getting all these pop-ups about oil change coupons.........where the heck were they coming from? I figured it out. I did search Auto Zone to get the price on full synthetic oil the last time I needed to change my oil for my car. That's all I did........I searched Auto Zone for oil. It doesn't take much to get on someone's list. You're browsing habits have everything to do with ads you see on the Internet (and in your email). It's a science that marketers are very good at. Browse sexy sites you get sexy ads.........it's that's simple.

Bingo once again. Y'all just don't understand the ads are keyed off your personal browsing habits. You don't like sexy ads or get of out jail ads then browse better sites. If they don't bother you then what's the beef? Everyone is their own worse enemy on the Internet. I would think you would know that by now.

anytime I've deleted anything that I owned it always went to the trash folder....no matter where it was when I deleted it (in-world or in inventory). I also wonder if the OP meant derender instead of drezzed?

It's a little hard to say when SL will "recognize" any new video card that comes on the market. I would say somewhere between 6 months and a year.......or however long it takes for the tech folks at Linden Lab to actually test the card on SL. It's not, at all, unusual for software developers to lag behind the hardware manufacturers. Just ignore the message and log in anyway. There should be a box to check to "don't show this message again" if the message bothers you. I always get that message when I get a new card that is in the newest series. Just make sure you have good drivers and you're good to go.

Bingo.

Are you in-world now?

You "talk" to support via the "Support Ticket". Other than billing support, that is the only way to "speak" to anyone in support. You can try the published number (not toll free) but you will get no where. Read the note in the blue field http://lindenlab.com/contact

XCF is GIMP's native image file format just like PSD is Photoshop's native image file format. When you save your image in GIMP, unless you specify some other format, it is saved as an XCF file. That preserves all the layers, guides and templates you might have used to create the image/texture. Using that saved copy you can go back to your creation later and have all the layers and tools available to you just as you had when you saved it.......that copy is not meant to be the "final" copy for distribution. You wouldn't want to use XCF as the image format for some wedding picture you took for a friend and send it to her/him so that they can view it every anniversary as some slide show on their big screen TV........you must us a format that that the viewer of the image has the capability of viewing (unless the viewer has GIMP they won't be able to open it.....well maybe Photoshop can open an XCF file but I don't know for sure). For SL you must use one of 4 formats to upload. BMP (for Windows only), PNG (cross platform), TGA (cross platform) or JPG (widely used for web content and universal). BMP, PNG, and TGA are lossless formats (they are not compressed and consequently large files). JPG is a lossy format (compressed which reduces resolution or clarity and are smaller files). Every texture/image you upload to SL is converted to JPEG2000 format which is a compressed or lossy format......that is no matter what format you upload. For the best possible resolution and clarity you would want to limit the compression so uploading an uncompressed image/texture would be the way to do that........only the single compression that the SL software does (the one you cannot control in any way). Uploading a JPG is uploading an already compressed file only to be compressed again.........you will see a significant reduction in the quality of the graphics. Of the lossless formats BMP is the only one that does not support transparency (for the geeky, that's the alpha channel). For a simple image that contains no transparency BMP is really a good format. For any image/texture with transparency you must use either PNG or TGA for uploading to SL. Both TGA and PNG can also be uploaded without transparency but you must make sure the alpha channel (or transparency) is removed before the final save for upload. I recommend TGA for all textures or images to uploaded to SL (but if there is no need for an alpha channel then make sure you remove it before hand). PNG format can be sort of tricky about removing the alpha channel which is why I recommend TGA.

You've got to be kidding me. After reading Elona's post I see you are out all of 16 L$........or less than 7 cents USD!!! The way your post read it would lead someone to believe you actually spent some real money (yeah, 7 cents USD is real money but you likely spent more than that in energy cost fuming over that "scam" for 8 hours. I think you owe Elona an apology for calling her out and accusing her of running a scam. And people wonder why I have so little patience with some of the posters in Answers.:smileymad:

Another point. A router is not required for an Internet connection. A router is necessary for a network to connect to the Internet but if no network exists then a router is completely unnecessary. That's for cable or DSL. A router routes traffic for a network (besides a router often being used to facilitate a wireless connection that's all the do.......route data in a nework). By passing the router in a network is a valid troubleshooting step to rule out (or in) that device as a source of the problem. Restarting your router does not generally give you a new IP address........that depends entirely on your ISP if it does or does not. Restarting a router (and/or a modem) does exactly the same for you as restarting your computer.....it dumps memory that may have not been released over time (that is the main reason restarting the device clears up problems.........it's not the new IP address that does that).

The message "Second Life cannot be accessed on this computer" is a message that is almost always associated with a ban. You should have recieved an email from LL advising you of the ban and what you must do to appeal the ban.........you absolutely need to follow the advise for appealing in order to get the ban lifted (if LL decides to lift the ban). Check the email you associated with SL when you signed up.....it may have been sent to your email's junk or spam folder depending on how you have the email account setup.

It might be related to your use of two avatars if you haven't moved one of the avatar's cache location on your computer (even using different viewers I've seen some interaction between the caches if they both are left in the default location). I've been clearing my cache each launch of the SL viewer for years and I have not had a single cache problem since. I do that by clicking the "clear cache" button in preferences before I log in each and every time I load up SL (that clears the cache the next time I launch it.....it's a habit now and only takes a few seconds both to do and for everything to rezz at log in).