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Sounds like one of the little Ryzen APU laptops, of which there are many. Should be a good choice for SL, see if you can find a similar one on sale anywhere because they tend to frequently go on sale and drop below the $300 mark. Any of them with the Ryzen 3200u and 8gb of ram or better will do just fine.

Don’t bother referencing the system requirements page, it’s absolutely useless. For a kinda base line on what will play SL well, anything with Intel HD 620, try to get an 8th gen Mobile i5 quad core or better processor. Look up the processor names on google and check the Intel Ark website to see the details, i5-8xxx, look for quadcores. HD 620 being the common integrated graphics for these mobile processors, it’s good enough, it’ll handle the graphical side of SL decently well. 16gb of ram is ideal but 12 or 8 will still work, just with 8 you might have some difficulty multitasking or running multiple viewers at once. If you’re looking into something with a dedicated GPU, you won’t find many AMD mobile gpu options that aren’t Apple or some rare few mobile workstations anyway, and the dedicated gpu options for AMD are kinda out of date. There’s a little bit more going on there, but the reason say a Radeon 540 mobile gpu exists is not for gaming performance but for things like gpu acceleration in 3D rendering. It’s better at a task like that, but otherwise those mobile RX video chips aren’t that impressive. On the Nvidia side you’ll find the more common options, anything with a Mobile GTX 1050 or better, that will vastly outperform Intel HD620 on the graphical side, might not be a necessity though and depending on your budget, a dedicated gpu in a laptop tends to increase the price a lot. Avoid the MX110/130, don’t get a 940MX, a GTX 1650, 1660 or 1660ti are good options. tl;dr look for anything with a quadcore 8th gen i5 or better, 16gb of ram, HD 620 or a mobile GTX 1050/1650 or better for the un tl;dr if you want to get really picky, IPS 1080p displays only, don’t buy anything you can’t upgrade the ram in, don’t buy anything with a mechanical hard drive, read customer reviews extensively to find if there’s a common problem with whatever laptop you go with

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If You just want “playable” on the super cheap, pick up anything newer than 2nd gen Intel. Old business laptops are dirt cheap. Thinkpad T420 (14” size), T520 (15”), X220 (13” small), or W520 (giant ass workstation). Theyre all 2nd gen mobile i3/i5/i7. With Intel HD3000 graphics. Nothing impressive, the machines are from 2011. But they cost about 100$ tops all ready to go and will make SL more playable. Nothing where you’re gonna be maxing settings and seeing 60fps, but medium/low settings to get 15-20fps in most places. They’re abundant on eBay, there’s an endless supply of off-lease business laptops. Anything newer as well, the naming scheme for Thinkpads goes with the generation. T420 is 2nd gen, T430 is 3rd gen, T440 is 4th gen, etc. Performance only goes up with each generation but sandy bridge 2nd gen is the base line. For comparisons sake, your current laptop is in the Late Core2duo generation and it’s on the low end, late 2000’s type of stuff. It only runs SL on a technicality, as in it will technically run. But it’s not gonna be a great experience. I ran SL on a similar age laptop but a generation back, mid Core2duo era stuff with a slightly weaker integrated graphics chipset, saw maybe 2-3fps on a good day in the majority of places on the minimum settings.

SL does utilize your gpu, just not well. 2gb is plenty and doesn’t cause texture thrashing in I would argue the vast majority of places, I rarely top 700mb of vram usage in this game but I don’t hang out in super detailed places all day. Again with this generalization, I’m not even gonna be nice about this because it’s just outright misinformation, where is this hard line at “GTX 600 series” coming from? You know the 700 series stuff right after it doesn’t start straight after GTX 680 performance? If all you need is a 600 series card, better not get a performance equivalent part for a cheaper price. Why get a 1050ti if you can get a 680 which performs the same but at like three times the wattage? That’s dumb. The point here is not what a person needs, if that was the case Id tell them to buy an i5 2400 and a 560ti for a grand total of 100$. It’s a matter of the parts being new and common. Nobody is selling a GTX 6xx brand new, there is no point in mentioning them at all because they are irrelevant to the discussion of a pc purchase for SecondLife in the year 2020. Heres whats commercial relevant for consumer computers right now: Ryzen 2nd and 3rd gen, Intel 8th and 9th gen, Nvidia Pascal and Turing, AMD Polaris and RDNA. On the hard drive thing, similar issue. It’s 2020, they are dead. Welcome to the god damn future, any newer pc these days is running nvme, it’s been a consumer norm for a few years now, your mass storage is relegated to sata solid state drives, usually older tech ones. The only thing a mechanical hard drive is for these days is if you have a massive amount of crap to back up. Its not a matter of SL not needing, which it does anyway, it’s that it’s no longer a relevant technology.

There’s nothing to do with this tbh, it could play SL but you’ll need to run Linux or Windows 7 at the newest just for the sake of video drivers. SL will run on it and ive run it on lower end hardware even, but it’s barely playable. Even if you got SL running on this laptop it wouldn’t be a pleasant experience. There are no upgrades to do, no cpu change or more ram or whatever is going to make it playable. Look into a new laptop.

Cache, whatever SL sets up its cache file on will affect load times for previously saved content. Regardless mechanical hard dives in 2020 are exclusively for bulk storage, and even then it’s usually worth it to get a sata SSD at least. nvme is the only way to go if building or buying a new pc To touch on the other subjects, vram is a terrible metric for gpu performance, as is raw generation generalizations. A 2gb GTX 960 will still do fine and will outperform a 4gb 1050ti. Just the same a 3gb 1060 would beat both or the 4gb variant of the 960. Anything over 1gb wont see many texture issues from my experience unless you’re at extremely high draw distances. About the minimum you can even get anymore is 2gb anyway but don’t go out and buy a Polaris radeon pro duo because 32gb of vram = more good. To detail the Ryzen 5 stuff more, the 1600AF is like 85$ usually and performs like an R7 2700, it’s a 2nd gen die with a 1st gen name sold in gen 3 for some reason but they’re dirt cheap 6 core processors and if you can find one, get one. Their downside is that they’re made out of B stock dies, and aren’t made often, so when they show up and amd sells them, retailers go through them fast. There are other things to consider in a desktop as well but it’s more of a concern if OP would want to build their own. Otherwise, Ryzen 5, gpu for your choice of resolution and settings, 16gb of faster ddr4, NVMe SSD. Details on a laptop have already been mentioned and they posted another thread about that as well.

For price to performance, yeah. A desktop is optimal for that and you can tailor it a bit more to your needs a laptops price increase comes in the form of portability, raw specs wise a 1000$ current gaming laptop would be blown entirely out of the water by a 1000$ desktop, but you can’t carry around a desktop that easily Parts wise for a desktop is a different mater. The kinda goto right now is any Ryzen 5 processor + 16gb 3200mhz or faster ddr4, and then whatever gpu fits your graphical needs. 1080p don’t bother with anything above a 3gb GTX 1060 or even a 1050ti. For 1440p look into an RTX 2060 super or 1660ti, for 4k go for an RTX 2070 super or radeon 5700xt or better. Everything else pretty much stays the same, because a Ryzen 7 processor is just a 5 with more cores, which most stuff won’t need and definitely not secondlife. Ryzen 5 3600 + 1660ti, check for that combo or anything similar, R5 2600, R5 1600AF (not a regular 1600 though). On the lower end, Ryzen 3 3200g + GTX 1050ti or RX 560 or anything similar, 2200g, R3 1200. Gpu wise there’s also the 3gb 1060 still or the newer Radeon RX 5500xt Intel cannot compete at the moment and anything other than the i7 9700k on team blue is a terrible choice as amd is outperforming with lower wattage and cheaper processors at every other price point.

I quote Lilith here to answer her as well. While certainly anything with Intel HD620/630 or any of the current Ryzen mobile APUs will handle SL just fine and dandy, 1080p normal settings, might drag a bit with a lot of people but otherwise fine. It would still be preferable to have a system with a dedicated gpu. At the minimum that’s a mobile 1050 and mobile i5/i7. That will do whatever you want in SL without issue, handle more complex stuff and is a good buying guideline. However the current all purpose gaming laptop without getting into super high end stuff involves a mobile 1660. That’s what you get. And nothing with a mobile 1660 will have less than a quadcore i5, 8th gen maybe, 9th gen most commonly. You’re not gonna find a lower end option that’s actually worth buying, anything with an MX110 is barely better than HD620, an MX130 is just a mobile 1030 and it’s not a good value choice. I know what can and can’t play SL well. If the goal is just “it runs”, buy a Thinkpad T420 with Hd3000 and at least 4gb of ram. It’ll run SL, it’ll run ok at best, and it’ll cost about 80$ and last another decade on its already 9 year life, but it’s not the best choice overall, just economically.

Anything that comes with a dgpu to begin with is probably already an adequately specced laptop otherwise. Wont find a mobile GTX 1050 paired with a dual core ULV Pentium and 2gb of ram. To make a more specific suggestion for OP, read reviews, don’t buy anything with a mechanical hard drive, quadcores are the bare minimum. A mobile GTX 1050 is about as low as you can go reasonably with a gaming oriented laptop anyway, and it’ll do SL fine. Right now the popular entry level option with a slightly newer mobile gpu is anything with a 1660ti and 9th gen i5/i7. Nvme ssd’s ideally, look for ips displays in whatever size you’d prefer. If I had to suggest a very specific model, get a Gigabyte Aero.

The math is more complicated but in simple terms what it does is run a script that randomly selects a number, usually a high range of numbers. say 1-1000, 1-600 or so will net a common roll, it rolls again and the number will then correlate to an item in the common list. So you roll 550, then 230 or something. If there’s 4 items then 1-250 is item 1, 251-500 is item 2, 501-750 is item 3 and 751-1000 is item 4. On the first roll it Works for each tier with a smaller and smaller range of numbers for each tier of rarity, a common may be 1-600, uncommon could be 601-850, rare could be 851-980, and then the ultra rare would be 981-1000. Then as above, it rolls again for the specific item as whatever numbers correlate to it. There are other things that make the items limited sale, won’t copy after a certain amount of wins or only stays around for a limited time, so there’s a finite supply. Its a lot more complex than that but that’s basically how most of them roll an item you win. With this being SL, if there’s a problem with the scripting then you might not get anything, machine borked. If there’s a recorded item pay out history then the owner will be able to check the transactions and times and see if you did or didn’t get an item, they can refund you or potentially give you what you won if the script for the roll worked and the payout didn’t.

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I’ve already done this. idk why people are so specific over a username, it’s not that important

To simplify my posts, the audience for SL is there, people want a casual creation game where you can do whatever you want. But SL is archaic in its implementation. The creation features need to be changed, the monetization aspect of the game needs to be changed, the engine of the game needs to be changed. Because content creation is too complex for a casual user to figure out easily, everything requires L$, and the game runs like complete ass. Change the game to be more friendly to that audience, advertise directly to that audience, and SL will receive that audience. What does SL sit at every day, 50k users under peak hours? Slice off even a tiny portion of Robloxs daily user base, provide the older users with a more detailed creation platform, there’s a lot to take from 20 million active users at any given time. Add that to hobbyist modelers, aspiring game designers, even just people looking for a virtual platform for artwork. Properly advertise to the right people, via the right YouTube sponsors, advertisements or twitter and google ads, plenty of people will play SL.