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but are unhealthy - think of all that crap they eat - stick with gazelles...

Because they are average humans, not techies or accountants or lawyers, just plain humans who often get things wrong and behave surprinsingly predictable as a group.

The town hall was the wrong choice of medium to point people to for looking stuff up, it simply is: not structured not easy to navigate not legaly binding That is why everyone but the millenials prefers written documentation. The town hall was the right thing for LL to do in order calm down the folks... but now they will have to do some extra work to create a documentation.

I can only tell you about Germany. having identified your IP address is usual enough... having a record of ip address, date and violated intelecual property they can usuall get a court order for the ISP to hand over your identity for the purposes of a cease and desist order and/or a court case. While there have been court case rulings that IP adresses are not always clearly identifing users most cases are settled out of courts - before a judge can evaluate how good an evidence the IP address actually is. The fees for a cease and desist orders are so exorbitant high, some unemployed lawyers - not unlike the privateers of yore - offer their free services to content owners in exchange for the c&d fees - this has lead to a whole cease and desist industry by specialiced lawyers over here... and another specialiced lawyers industry defending against intellectual property C&D orders. Clever guys - those lawyers... In addition to this streamers might also need a broadcasting licence. However streams can be limited in maximum users to avoid the "technical ability to be percieved by 500 users or more" which might get you out of the requirements for such a licence. Why do I write conjunctive? Because there might be exceptions - we're Germans - we always ahve exceptions - I bet there will be exceptions in what exact cases as maller number of recipients requires a broadcasting license as well. TLDR: Internet broadcasting in Germany is only for students of law, nitpickers or those who like to live dangerous...

No we need court orders - but those court orders are a matter of minutes if the accusing party has sufficient proof.

Honestly I doubt that even matters AFAIK HL is a French collective - their non-profit status in France hardly matters in California. LL decides for itself who gets prefered treatment on their services - und under what circumstances. I am member of a non profit NGO as well - and we boost out finances by selling food at local community events - this does not challenge our tax status as non profit in any way as out total still is mostly donations funded. If however someone offers us to to get a booth at the community event for less because we are non-profit but only under the obligation we do not sell any food in that case. Well in that case we have to decide wether we want to sell food for charity at full booth price or use the no profit offer and just hand out flyers... Basically that is pretty similar to what happens here.

It depends on how balance is defined - yet another case for the nitpickers...

*headdesks* but everyone has a USD balance ... that's the whole point

but she would have never accepted the Tilia TOS even though she had an account... duh

Sadly it didn't, they are still around. Legalese does not care wether a balance is positive, negative or balanced - that would be 0.00 - whatever it is - it still is a balance. If the terms of use are that everyone with a balance gets a Tilia accout without exceptions for 0.00 balances, the 0.00 balances will be affected. But of course that is only the reasoning of the "stupid people", right ? Be careful, Talligurl, be very carefull - one day the "studip people" like lawyers and judges might have a get on you because once again you will have assumed something that just was not layed down in the legalese at all. There is a good reason lawyers and businessmen are so nit picking ...

That was their respose for their own little funny corner of the earth - as mentioned before however public internet streaming is international and therefore local rules apply. A German would have to consider German regulations, a Mexican would have to look up Mexican regulations and so on - more legal fun to ensue in cases where the streaming server is not within the same legal admistrative area as the streaming person. My 5 cents on a DJ career in SL? Migrate to Sealand!

Some folks call them the "art" industry over here with art put in paranthesis on purpose. What constitutes as art? What is acceptable in art? What is the bare minimum of art? What is the purpose of art? Who decides on art? What is good art? Anyone offering a simple solution on any of the above propably might not be suited to answering them in the first place.

I never understood why people would listen to live recordings anyways - with rare exceptions like for exmaple Arlo Guthrie it usually just is worse - doesn't stop people liking it however and thus requesting it from DJs - which brings us back on topic ...

I guess it is a language barrier thing. People don't get the difference.

Every stream in SL is public - there is no soch thing as "streaming just insideSL" once people know the stream's URL they can listen to it outside of SL - I often do as it is less buggy than listening through the viewer.

Live recordings are not live music... not anymore - they were at the moment of recording.

Your lack of considering perspective is remarkable - given the fact you came here to defend an artist

They get granted the same chance as everyone else. Who decides who's art is superior than someone other's? This thread started with a lot of positive attitude and goodwill towards HL - but sadly the Hangarians do a good job of slowly eroding it away.

Yeah right - there is absolutely no possiblity this might backfire and anger the resident enough to turn their back and never return.

Report it - the fact that they even called it "spite wall" might help you in getting it removed with an Abuse Report. Just fill in as much detail as possible. No, sadly SL viewer cannot blacklist rendered objects.

Btw. if you play live music you are a performer not a DJ anymore. DJs always play canned music per definition - they might however play live recorded music - which was live music at it's time of recording but now is no more. Sorry for the nitpicking but there are legal matters involved so concise definitions are inevitable.

As you cannot confine streaming to listeners in SL only every streaming you do can be considered a public broadcast depending on your local legal legislation and the legistaltion of the server's physical location. Lots of DJing in SL is done under the radar - but that does not make it right.

Those two webpages do: https://slhunts.wordpress.com https://huntsl.com

Hey to be fair please admit that goes for all tantrums - also those from your side

Over there the closing still seems to be a threat - in the discussion over here it seems a sure thing - but thanks for the rest if the insights.