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AMD GPUs do not work as well in SL. I had my fill approx. 1 year ago of Linux-AMD drivers causing unstable distro issues along with mesh rezzing problems. On the other hand using W/10 and Linux I have no issues whatsoever with Nvidia graphics. Nvidia cards perform better in SL, Although your CPU is a little weak I have a neighbor/SL resident using an Intel LGA 1155 socket G1620 dual core 2.7GHz Celeron in his desktop and works fairly well. Some AMD GPU owners using SL have had fairly good luck with Singularity viewers. Here is their latest Windows offering Build 6915: http://alpha.singularityviewer.org/alpha/ "I Love Simplicity"
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32GB RAM guy: roflmao when I read your ill advised SL pc component requirements; especially your varying RAM requirements for SL. Your posted criticism of my combo builds show just how little valid pc knowledge you have & how little respect you have for those who sought that accurate advice; especially those on a tight budget.. Of course, you are "assuming" Psensor (Google it since you apparently have not a clue) is inaccurate?? Hardware/Resources monitoring programs are not inaccurate; unlike your pc component Forum advice. There is a huge difference between you & I: When I am asked a question in this Forum & I do not know the answer my ego does not get in the way of me saying "I don't know." On the other hand, you just wing it based upon "stuff" you post in this Forum. Obsessing over your ridiculous varying SL RAM requirements, no but you've brought a multitude of laughter in to my life. A self-proclaimed over 15 year pc builder. LOOL Fact over Fiction
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Hello 32GB RAM guy: yes I fully recognize how you have "helped" people. I can only speculate on how many took your fictional amount of required RAM for SL as fact & wasted their money thanks to you. Fact over Fiction
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32GB RAM guy: what a childish comment. Fact over Fiction
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Welcome to SecondLife where you can be banned from any sim by any sim owner, or empowered group member of said sim(s) without any justification whatsoever, or Linden Lab intervention. I sit here asking myself is there any contribution/connection between this "policy" & currently soooo many empty sims??? You always want to stop think about what you post & do in a sim (or this Forum) ; due to the fact there are always those who will attempt to use some simplistic minded psychological ploy to entice/provoke you into posting/saying something irrational in the hope of you getting you banned from a sim, or even this Forum. 0-o Sorry that is enough of my Intro to Psychology course :manlol:
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I am just here to help & sift through the *censored* Have you ever asked why you are not attempting to help someone in this Forum; instead of this??? Sorry, all the attention you get-deserve from me.
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Yes they still do. FYI rpm stands for revolutions per second LOL. While in college I wrote an MLA essay entitled: "You Get What You Pay For" ; thus the cheap price on it.If you had paid more attention to the price range of the original purchase/brand it is self explanatory: "Speed costs money & how fast do you wish to go?" https://www.amazon.com/Asus-GL702VM-DB74-G-SYNC-Gaming-i7-6700HQ/dp/B01KB0X0OQ/ref=sr_1_27?m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1481226551&sr=1-27&keywords=gaming+laptop&refinements=p_6%3AATVPDKIKX0DER My BFF: Derek....... LOL Happy Holidays
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UPDATED: 12/6/16-Yes, Amazon does ship internationally & here are links that may help some of you: https://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=201214790 https://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=201074230 If you do not have a credit/debit card you could use a Visa or MasterCard that you can preload money onto, so as to order from Amazon. Here is just one example (always read the fine print on *FEES*) : https://www.netspend.com/prepaid-debit/how-it-works/fee-plan/ I hope this helps!!
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Hi there, you'll get more bang for your money purchasing a desktop. I only buy from Amazon & or Bestbuy unlike Newegg they take care of customer problem(s) quickly. Currently this desktop is a good deal & is close in specs you desire: https://www.amazon.com/iBUYPOWER-AM600i-Gaming-Desktop-i5-6400/dp/B01KW42TSY/ref=sr_1_6?m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1480836343&sr=1-6&keywords=cyberpower+gaming+pc&refinements=p_6%3AATVPDKIKX0DER%2Cp_n_feature_four_browse-bin%3A2289793011 Need to replace included cheap power supply : https://www.amazon.com/Thermaltake-Gold-Power-Supply-PS-TR2-0500NPCGUS-G/dp/B00TQIA8B8/ref=sr_1_2?m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1480836769&sr=1-2&keywords=power+supply&refinements=p_n_feature_keywords_two_browse-bin%3A6906984011%2Cp_6%3AATVPDKIKX0DER%2Cp_89%3AThermaltake If I were to buy a laptop/notebook: https://www.amazon.com/MSI-GP72-Leopard-NOTEBOOK-i7-6700HQ/dp/B01IA9HBUY/ref=sr_1_39?m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1480836999&sr=1-39&keywords=msi+gaming+laptop&refinements=p_89%3AMSI%2Cp_6%3AATVPDKIKX0DER If you want to save money & still have a great desktop: https://www.amazon.com/CyberpowerPC-Gamer-GUA3400A-Gaming-Desktop/dp/B0111MU5ZA/ref=sr_1_3?m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1480837284&sr=1-3&keywords=cyberpowerpc&refinements=p_6%3AATVPDKIKX0DER Replace included cheap graphics card: https://www.amazon.com/EVGA-GeForce-Support-04G-P4-6251-KR-Rodgers/dp/B01MEFABEL/ref=sr_1_4?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1480838434&sr=1-4&keywords=gtx+1050ti+4gb Replace included cheap power supply: https://www.amazon.com/EVGA-BRONZE-Warranty-Tester-100-B1-0450-K1/dp/B01F5LX55K/ref=sr_1_3?m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1480838647&sr=1-3&keywords=power+supply&refinements=p_6%3AATVPDKIKX0DER%2Cp_36%3A1253504011 For SL currently you need at least 8GB RAM, a quadcore CPU & a decent graphics card. Always when needed make sure you buy a name brand power supply! The decision is yours
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Looking to build a new PC specifically for SL.
LinuxGod4u replied to VincentDiveccio's topic in Second Life Viewer
UPDATED: 1/30/17.. I know this thread is not recent; however it is a commonly asked question. A pc to run SL smoothly on a budget does not mean buying an expensive Intel i5 (borderline overkill for solely SL use), or using a $400-$500 dollar graphics card, or even a huge hard drive when we are discussing a budget pc solely for SL use. I have recently tested the latest Phoenix Firestorm & Singularity (2017) viewers. On Linux & W/10 x64 I found the latest viewer offerings from Firestorm (2017) to be bloated, sluggish & a system RAM hog. On the other hand, I found the latest Singularity (2017) Linux & W/10 x64 viewers to be faster, lighter on pc resources & require less RAM. I have upgraded system RAM requirements based upon my testing of both viewers to a min of 10-12 GB for prolonged login sessions in SL; thus why in this "budget build it uses *12Gb RAM. In addition, since this combo is built solely for SL use & will be using Linux- Ubuntu 16.04 LTS x64 a 120 GB SSD is more than enough storage space. After adding all necessary programs, etc you'll only use a mere approx. 8 GB of SSD storage. Furthermore, as to avoid mesh rezzing issues/AMD - Linux driver problems the below "budget" build uses a Nvidia GTX 1050 DDR5 2GB This combo uses an used AMD Phenom II x3 720 triple core CPU with a L3 cache of 6MB & is currently sold by a 3rd party Amazon seller: haneehanee11 along with a high perf CPU fan/heatsink. The heatsink has two copper heatpipes & a copper base, so as to help keep the CPU cool during prolonged usage of SL. Please bear in mind I do have *one* pc on my home network running W/10 Home x64, so the above posted info is accurate. Total cost of this "budget" build soley for SL use excluding keyboard,mouse & monitor is currently approx. $382.49 Based upon my recent testing of both listed above viewers it is impossible to build a dependable desktop that will run SL adequately/smoothly for $300.00 or less. ALL components are off amazon.com & not Newegg. Newegg is a great place to shop, UNLESS you run into a DOA, defective item(s) or especially if you require a prompt refund. Although Newegg has an A+ BBB rating they also have over 1000 valid BBB complaints logged against them to date. I can tell you any & all issues I ever had with Amazon purchase(s) ALL were resolved within *48 hrs to my satisfaction. Let's dive into this "budget" build: https://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B00DXHHCZS/ref=dp_olp_0?ie=UTF8&condition=all&qid=1485815293&sr=1-6 https://www.amazon.com/MSI-CrossFireX-Motherboard-760GMA-P34-FX/dp/B00EASJ2JI/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1485821714&sr=1-1&keywords=msi+760gma-p34+fx https://www.amazon.com/ZOTAC-GeForce-DisplayPort-128-bit-ZT-P10500A-10L/dp/B01M4MIU94/ref=sr_1_8?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1485817078&sr=1-8&keywords=gtx+750+ti https://www.amazon.com/PNY-CS1311-120GB-Internal-Solid/dp/B019H3B3P6/ref=sr_1_2?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1485817236&sr=1-2&keywords=pny+ssd https://www.amazon.com/Kingston-HyperX-FURY-1333MHz-DDR3/dp/B00J8E8YKC/ref=sr_1_3?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1485817296&sr=1-3&keywords=kingston+ddr3+1333+4gb https://www.amazon.com/Kingston-HyperX-FURY-1333MHz-DDR3/dp/B00J8E8YWA/ref=sr_1_3?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1485817296&sr=1-3&keywords=kingston%2Bddr3%2B1333%2B4gb&th=1 https://www.amazon.com/Rosewill-MicroATX-Tower-Computer-FBM-01/dp/B005LIDU5S/ref=sr_1_9?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1485821850&sr=1-9&keywords=pc+case https://www.amazon.com/EVGA-Warranty-Power-Supply-100-N1-0400-L1/dp/B00LV8TZAG/ref=sr_1_3?m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1485822165&sr=1-3&keywords=power+supply&refinements=p_36%3A1253504011%2Cp_6%3AATVPDKIKX0DER https://www.amazon.com/LG-Electronics-Internal-Optical-GH24NSC0B/dp/B00MOUBYDQ/ref=sr_1_1?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1485818202&sr=1-1&keywords=internal+dvd+drive https://www.amazon.com/AMD-Socket-Copper-Heatpipes-Connector/dp/B0044FHFJQ/ref=sr_1_29?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1485818296&sr=1-29&keywords=am3 Operating system: Linux-Ubuntu 16.04 LTS x64 *FREE* Above suggested components I chose are based up CPU, GPU, & RAM monitoring software while recently logged into SL, so as to avoid any "weak" performance in this combo. I have a neighbor/SL resident even using an Intel LGA 1155 G1620 dual core Celeron CPU @ 2.7GHz running SL smoothly. When building a pc it is all about the combination of parts you use & not how much money you spend on a pc build. 2017 Singularity Linux x64 bento compatible viewer: Singularity 1 8 7 6915 x86 64.tar.xz http://67.170.30.149/ 2017 Singularity Windows viewers Build 6915 http://alpha.singularityviewer.org/alpha/ Latest Firestorm Linux viewers http://www.firestormviewer.org/linux/ Latest Firestorm Windows viewers http://www.firestormviewer.org/windows/ "I Love Simplicity" -
A graphic card for SL
LinuxGod4u replied to DorianDiaz's topic in General Second Life Tech Discussion
UPDATED 2/1/17: A decent running custom built desktop relies on the combo of parts you choose to purchase whether ir runs SL fast, or sluggishly.. It is like building a high performance drag car engine its horsepower output depends on the combo of parts you chose to use.. For example, I could say you need a Nvidia GTX 1080, BUT it'd be severely bottlenecked by your CPU, etc. PNY has released a new Nvidia GTX 1050ti sold only at BestBuy. I'd recommend it with a resident currently using an Intel i3 CPU for SL use: http://www.bestbuy.com/site/pny-xlr8-nvidia-geforce-gtx-1050-2gb-gddr5-pci-express-3-0-graphics-card-black/5711723.p?skuId=5711723 Also, after recently testing both (2017) Singularity & Firestorm viewers on W/10 Home x64 & current Debian Linux x64 distros IF you plan on prolonged sessions in SL you'll need a min. of 10-12 GB system RAM; especially using the latest Firestorm x64 viewers. FYI I am fully aware its an older thread, BUT it is also a commonly asked question too! "I Love Simplicity" -
Lag in SL & it might be LL's fault. OMG! There might be issues with WIndozze 10!!? I had W/10 Home x64 on one of four pcs in my home (I built.) After the latest greatest massive security update my USB wireless adapter dropped signal every few minutes & the current version of Google Chrome x64 also ceased to work. Here is the fix that finally resolved my W/10 issues. I removed W/10 & installed a current Linux Debian x64 distro, which I already had on the three other pcs in my home. Of course, this is just my own personal permanant fix.
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UPDATED 1/31/17: After testing both Firestorm & Singularity (2017 versions) on both Windows 10 Home x64 & Ubuntu 14.04 x64, Ubuntu 16.04 x64 & Linux Mint 18 (Sarah) I must reccomend a min. of 10-12 GB RAM in order to use SL for a prolonged period of time, so as to avoid having to logout & log back in to reset your dwindling RAM. This can be a major problem if your current motherboard will not hold 10 - 12 GB RAM. Currently on Fernando's build I'd go with this processor: AMD Phenom II x3 (triple core) 720 from Amazon 3rd party seller haneehanee11 used for a mere $17.00 + $4.49 shipping & handling. It is 2.8 GHz/core with L3 cache of 6MB: https://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B00DXHHCZS/ref=dp_olp_used_mbc?ie=UTF8&condition=used There is a NEW model of the Nvidia GTX 1050ti...the XLR8 series that now uses a PCI-E 6pin connector. It is now clocked a little higher & by using a PCI-E 6pin will allow for further overclocking. It is available at BestBuy http://www.bestbuy.com/site/pny-xlr8-nvidia-geforce-gtx-1050-ti-2gb-gddr5-pci-express-3-0-graphics-card-black/5711723.p?skuId=5711723 The DDR5 4GB version http://www.bestbuy.com/site/pny-xlr8-nvidia-geforce-gtx-1050-ti-4gb-gddr5-pci-express-3-0-graphics-card-black/5711724.p?skuId=5711724 FYI the Nvidia GTX 1XXX series cards do NOT support an analog signal, so a VGA adapater will NOT work On Fernandos' build I'd currently suggest the 2GB version solely for SL use. "I Love Simplicity"
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What did SL do wrong during the early days?
LinuxGod4u replied to Axel UwU's topic in General Discussion Forum
I was here way back when SL first went online. The malls/sims were all full with 1000s of REAL users. Yup this is just an account I made for forum use only; however I still use SL at times. This is what I witnessed: 1- In the beginning you had to provide SL with your DOB, etc., so as to verify what gender/who you were, but that changed so now you have not a clue to who/real life gender you are chatting/roling with. 2- LL God complex angered many: you pay for clothing, but you do not really own it, banning people left & right (relatives/friends left with them)-the I rule this world mentality nuking customer loyalty-LL rules for landowners who supposedly "owned" the land in first place 3- Attempting to intertwine real life corporations into SL 4- LL not giving vendors fair & equal rights 5- Nothing like an "escort" SL environment driving away the male populace 6- Teleporting from sim to sim with LL allowing sim owners to ban you at will w/o justification & or verbally abuse/assault you in process since he/she owns the sim (variation of the God complex) 7- LL introducing/using artifical intelligence (bots) to manipulate SL users into spending more $$ "absolute power corrupts absolutely" greed + arrogance = SL 2016 -
"community support" Where is it?
LinuxGod4u replied to WolfBaginski Bearsfoot's topic in Second Life Viewer
UPDATED: 1/30/17-Things have changed a little using Ubuntu 14.04 x64/16.04 x64 & Linux Mint 18 x64. Here is how you still open a viewer on current Debian Linux distros: first download viewer of your choice I am going to use the latest Singularity (2017) viewer as an example although the process I am going to share works on any current viewer. So, we have downloaded the Singularity Linux Test Build 1 8 7 6866 x86 64.tar.xz, which is auto saved to our "downloads"...double click on "Downloads" which opens any files you have downloaded...slide your mouse pointer to upper top left corner of your screen...click on "Edit"...click on "Preferences"...click on "Behavior" tab...select "run executable text files when they are opened"...close that window...go back to the tar.xz download...right click on it...select "Properties"...click on "Permissions"...select "allow executing file as a program"..close that window...now right click on the tar.xz downlaod...click on "extract here"..it will auto create a folder for you...at this point I like to get rid of the tar.xz download by right clicking it...click on "move to trash"...now double click on the newly created folder...double click on the data sheet named (singularity....or firestorm...secondlife which ever viewer you used) & the viewer will open. Now I am going to share with you what has changed in Ubuntu 14.04 x64/16.04 x64/Linux Mint 18 x64 distros pertaining to 3rd party Firestorm & Singularity viewers. After just recently testing the latest Fiestorm-Linux x64 & latest (2017) Singularity test build viewers I am strongly advising you use a min. of 10-12 GB system RAM; especially on the latest Firestorm - Linux x64 viewer! I have nothing against the Firestorm team, but their latest x64 Linux viewer is sluggish, uses too much system resources; especially system RAM! If you attempt to use SL for a prolonged period of time with 8 GB RAM with the latest Linux Firestorm viewer you'll use it up quick & have to re-log often. Although I found the latest Singularity Linux test build faster than Firestorm's it too uses system RAM a little more quickly then previous versions. Latest (2017) bento compatible Singularity Linux x64 viewer 1 8 7 6915 x86 64 tar.xz http://67.170.30.149/ Latest Firestorm Linux x86 & x64 viewers http://www.firestormviewer.org/linux/ You are definitely going to need some of the following 32 bit libraries. It is a little overkill, but after installing them all you'll be able to run ANY of the current Linux 32 bit, or 64 bit viewers on any of the above listed Linux distros along with Skype, Google Earth, etc First command run in your Terminal sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade (gets your pc "Up to date"...after installing ALL available re-boot your pc) 32 bit Libs (copy n paste into your Terminal one @ a time) sudo apt-get install gcc-multilib sudo apt-get install libc6-i386 libglib2.0-0:i386 libsm6:i386 \ libglu1-mesa:i386 libgl1-mesa-glx:i386 libxext6:i386 \ libxrender1:i386 libx11-6:i386 libfontconfig1:i386 lsb-core sudo apt-get install lib32z1 lib32ncurses5 lib32bz2-1.0 sudo apt-get install libc6:i386 libncurses5:i386 libstdc++6:i386 sudo apt-get install lib32z1 lib32ncurses5 lib32bz2-1.0 lib32stdc++6 sudo apt-get install libglu1-mesa:i386 libgtk2.0-0:i386 libidn11:i386 libpangox-1.0-0:i386 libpangoxft-1.0-0:i386 libqtwebkit4:i386 sudo apt-get install libfontconfig1:i386 libx11-6:i386 libxrender1:i386 libxext6:i386 libgl1-mesa-glx:i386 libglu1-mesa:i386 libglib2.0-0:i386 libsm6:i386 sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.10-pulseaudio:i386 libidn11:i386 libuuid1:i386 libstdc++6:i386 sudo apt-get install lib32z1 sudo apt-get install libgtk2.0-0:i386 libidn11:i386 libglu1-mesa:i386 libxmu6:i386 sudo apt-get install libpangox-1.0-0:i386 libpangoxft-1.0-0:i386 sudo apt-get install libasound2-plugins:i386 sudo apt-get install libasound2:i386 libasound2-plugins:i386 libasyncns0:i386 libattr1:i386 libc6:i386 libc6-i686:i386 libcap2:i386 libdbus-1-3:i386 libflac8:i386 libgcc1:i386 libice6:i386 libjson0:i386 libogg0:i386 libpulse0:i386 libsm6:i386 libsndfile1:i386 libstdc++6:i386 libvorbis0a:i386 libvorbisenc2:i386 libwrap0:i386 libx11-6:i386 libx11-xcb1:i386 libxau6:i386 libxcb1:i386 libxdmcp6:i386 libxext6:i386 libxi6:i386 libxtst6:i386 zlib1g:i386 (some commands above are repetitive or obsoleted so do not sweat it if it says already installed or obsolete) After installing all above listed 32 libs re-boot your pc. Now you'll have audio, CEF media plugins, etc for ANY of the current SL viewers. Here is something else that has changed in Ubuntu 16.04.1 x64...you may experience system errors attempting to open certain programs til you add the above listed 32 bit libraries. By default Ubuntu 16.04 x64 firewall is turned off Go to "Ubuntu Software"...in search box type: "firewall"...click on "firewall configuration"...click on "install"...type in your password...as it installs it creates an icon on your task launcher...after install completes re-boot your pc...click on firewall icon...type in your pc password...when firewall window opens select "enable"...close out that window...your firewall is now on. Want to get rid of that Guest User Account? Open a Terminal type: sudo gedit /usr/share/lightdm/lightdm.conf.d/50-ubuntu.conf (press Enter on keyboard...type in your password..press Enter again...a gedit window opens...directly below last line of text you see to the far left type: allow-guest=false click on "save" tab in the upper right corner of the gedit window..close the gedit window...close the Terminal...re-boot your pc & the Guest account will be gone How to easily install the latest Nvidia graphics card driver Open a terminal & type these commands one @ a time: sudo apt-get remove nvidia* (press Enter on keyboard...type in your password...press Enter again this removes your current Nvidia driver) sudo add-apt-repository ppa:graphics-drivers/ppa (press Enter on your keyboard) sudo apt-get update (press Enter on your keyboard after udate completes close your terminal & re-bbot your pc) Now go to "Settings"...to Software & Updates..click on "Additional Drivers" tab. At this point I like to go to Nvidia's site to see the latest Linux x64 driver ver....go back to "Additional Drivers" and select it...type in your password...after it installs re-boot your pc...you are done (Do not use a Beta driver..use the one Nvidia is currently offering)...currently ver. 375.26 Nvidia fan speed control Open a Terminal & type: sudo nvidia-xconfig (Press Enter on keyboard..type in your password..Press Enter again) sudo nvidia-xconfig --cool-bits=4 (Press Enter on keyboard) Close your Terminal & re-boot your pc...open Nvidia controls...click on "Search your computer"..in text box type" nvidia"...click on Nvidia icon see it show up in your task launcer as the Nvidia control panel opens?...right click it add to your laucher...go back & delete the word nvidia from "Search your computer" text box...close it out...now under your Nvidia control panel click on "Thermal Settings"...select "Enable GPU Fan Settings"...slide speed bar to percentage of fan speed you desire....click "Apply"...click on the "QUIT" tab You'll need to reset the fan speed each time you re-boot your pc.IF you experience bootup issues after installing the fan speed control it means your GPU is not compatible with fan control, so you'll need to remove your Nvidia driver..re-boot your pc * open a terminal type: sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade & autoremove everything the terminal shows that needs to be removed...re-install your Nvidia driver again/re-boot your pc without installing the fan speed control. AMD *RX graphics cards (I have NOT tested this driver since I gave up on AMD-LInux drivers over a year ago) http://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/AMDGPU-PRO-Driver-for-Linux-Release-Notes.aspx IF you are using an AMD RX series card the Singularity - Linux viewer is your best option Keeping your 16.04 x64 system *completely Up-to-date Approx. once a week open a terminal & type: sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade (press Enter on keyboard...type in your password..press Enter again..after all installations are complete re-boot your pc If you are using the Singularity-Linux viewer here is a way to get a general idea of your Frames Per Second (FPS) while logged into SL After logging into SL see the "View" tab located at the upper left of your screen...click on it...click on "Statistics"...a small window will appear with FPS info, etc. HERE is the biggy: I know you' ve read varying CPU, RAM along with graphics cards requirements posted in this Forum ranging from Advisors, Senior Helpers, Helpers, Members, etc all with varying min. specs required to really run SL well. This simple pc resources *monitoring program* called Psensor will show you *exactly* how much computer resources SL is using while you are logged in-world. In Ubuntu 16.04 x64 go to Ubuntu Software...in the search text box type: Psensor..click on the thermometer icon...click "Install"...type in your password...it will create an icon on your task launcher..after install completes re-boot your pc. Click on the Psensor icon in your task launcher...close Psensor window ... see a thermometer icon in the upper right corner of your screen next to the up & down arrows?...go ahead log into SL & after logging in click on that thermometer icon and it will show you once & for all how much of your CPU is being used, how much of your RAM is being used, how much of your GPU is being used, CPU, GPU, Hard drive temps, etc, so as to put an end to the conflicting information posted in this Forum! "I Love Simplicity"