Callum Meriman

What Isee from that picture is your "mound" inside their land. That are you stand on is likely yours.

Atami Merlin wrote: Aren't there human rights in US governed world? Ignoring this USA rubbish... You have 48 SQM of land. 18' x 18' Your skybox is likely intruding into their space, hence why you can't use it. You are doing wrong by having it there. Honestly, mainland is now $L1 a square meter. Abandon that land and go looking for something nicer. You are allowed to hold up to 512 with a premium membership, anything less you are wasting it.

The white ball you speak of is one of the 4 basic compenents of your avatar failing to load. Skin, Shape, Hair (not prim), Eyes Option 1 is to use another viewer like Firestorm or (slightly more advanced and harder to use) Singularity or follow with these rather extreme steps. As you have not payed for a long time I suggest the following (Hopefully others will have more ideas to add) 1. Download the latest viewer again, there have been changes. 2. Clear your cache, you've not payed for a very long time so this step that you normally would never do might help 3. Login in and open your inventory. Just stand there without moving until your inventory loading finishes. It can take a while! 3a. if you appear great~ You are fixed. If not go on and Ignore you are a cloud. 3b. Find somewhere lonely, without people, the following steps will make you naked. For now you are swamp gas. 4. Open your worn stuff and detach everything you can. There are tricks if you can't detach things, but let's leave those for now. 5. If you appear great, put on your items slowly with relogs until you find what broke. 6. If you are stil a cloud, right click on your Body Parts section and choose i. Make new shape - wear this ii. Make new eyes - wear this iii. Make new skin - wear this iv. Make new hair - wear this. You will appear. You will be ugly and naked, but if you followed 3a you are alone and have time to now add a dress. Then like with step 5 add things until you break again. Hopefully you wont. As I said extreme, but it works in most cases that nothing else does. Read back on what other people say, they may have less drastic ways. Good luck!

They are all great suggestions and very true. Many of the smaller shapes (under 4'5") are going to be "deformed" and will need you to add an alpha layer to hide the Linden Genepool body. The basic Genepool body won't go smaller than what you would see ona 10 year old, so tricks are used to make us smaller. Search for and seek out the Secondlife Children or SL Kids group, ask and find nice PG places that are safe to go to and make some friends to help you out. There are a heck of a lot of friendly kids who would happily help. Good luck, and remember, try and stick to things a real kid will do, the experience is worth it the more you try and recapture real innocence!

ziicutie wrote: ... I also would like to take the time to make note to linden labs if they read this on how to help fix a security issue on their website. Tracking cookies can be copied from other websites and peopel can log into your user account on the website. I am assuming that linden labs is aware of this ability because the way the password reset is set up on the website. To prevent this tracking cookie exploit is pretty simple. You need to store on the database the IP adress that they used when they logged into the website. If they are logge in by tracking cookies and the Last IP that was used dose not match up with their current IP adress, then it will simply delete the tracking cookies and log them off. Something similar to this should also be done on the viewer side because i have heared of people coping the data of the viewers that remember passwords and they can log into your user and buy lindens and then transfer the lidnens over to their other user without even knowing what your real password is. Not sure this is an issue here. Haven't you noticed the OAUTH login when you access the site (and marketplace)? As far as " i have heared of people coping the data of the viewers that remember passwords and they can log into your user and buy lindens and then transfer the lidnens over to their other user without even knowing what your real password is." that is a million times INCORRECT. Your password is encrypted with the ID0 of your PC, this is made up of the Network Card MAC address and a few other things I don't wish to say (to be honest I don't even know them all!). If you copy the encrypted password to another machine then the ID0 will be wrong and the password won't decrypt. There is almost no chance that anyone could access your account by copying your viewer data from your machine to another, the only people who could do that would be a Linden or a TPV developer who understands what the ID0 is made from *and* who knows the exact values of your machine in order to spoof the ID0, to get those values they need to be at your machine, sitting in front of it. Most people would know if a Linden were at their keyboard tapping away

Qie Niangao wrote: it could be a smart play that benefits from the failure of Net Neutrality in the US and Canada. By spreading out the network demands to a large number of service points owned by fat-pipe participants, he may be able to hide just how large the distributed service has become, and thus avoid paying the carriers their ransom for acceptable last-mile delivery to normal end-users. That might actually work for quite a while. (What can't work is true peer-to-peer distribution, which is what I was fussing about originally. At least not in the US and Canada, where the carriers collude with regulators to overcharge consumers for very poor bandwidth.) Oh we go further into off topic, but this is a dead OP topic I think, so hehe, does anyone mind? It's weird to me how the internet is structured in America so I can see both sides of this argument. Playing the devil's advocate side here as it's likely opposite to most decent people on the street there. Again, I see the validity of both sides of this. All in all most people seem to pay a montly flat fee for an all you can eat buffet - then on the other hand find that the major providers like T3 want to ensure their paying customers have the best service. They of course want to do this to get more customers, and thus make a profit. In almost the entire rest of the world we pay by the megabyte - I pay AUD$120 a month for 300GB - and that seems to remove this slowdown (as far as I can tell). I know my connection hits LA and from there peers, it quickly jumps onto the correct network of Google or Netflix or SL and runs at full speed, net nuetrality or not. Even my torrents don't get slowed. Now the unpopular thought, hehe, sorry: Possibly if people in the USA accepted a fee per GB of data they consume then the companies who actually pay for the electricity and the interconnect points and the cables in the ground wouldn't mind everyone freeloading on their equipment as they would all be paying? But to the point. I'm not sure of Philip's reasons for this model, but it's truely wonderful in terms of ping. As your ping is local to the domain, as your movements are local to the domain there is no real issue in practice with the SLV1 lag. Even when you have a person in Australia and one in the USA on a server in the middle of Europe it seems to be no worse than SLV1. But the real benefit is what you can see in the opensource Github area, the example scripts like the SpaceInvaders one clearly show something quite great https://github.com/highfidelity/hifi/blob/master/examples/spaceInvadersExample.js#L85 ) --- and flipping this back into topic... how that would translate into the TOS is quite interesting. What happens when a texture licensed for use on XYZ grid might actually not even be on the grid but in the content creator's firm control. Something happens that they don't like, would they have the power to pull that texture and redo it elsewhere. Time will tell here, I'm less interested in the legal side of content than my current task in there, hehe, now that is a fun task! It's a fun time right now, this is for sure. We have HiFi, we have the PG rated Landmark, we have SLV2 as well. And I think it's becoming clear that none of these will impact SLV1 that much. This V1 world will be one where we have Prims, and LSL, and friends and who knows what else... heavily chomping the strongest video cards to give 30 fps.

Qie Niangao wrote: it's certainly good news that this won't be High Fidelity (which has an even lower probability of success because its basic architecture depends on widespread high quality broadband -- which can't happen in North America for the foreseeable future). We are heading into OT, but the point is made and I feel I must answer it. I run a number of OpenSim regions and I run a HiFi domain and I have my regions here. To be honest I also have accounts in most MMOs as well, including SOE's new voxel world Landmark. I've not yet seen SLV2 but I would hope to get intot he Alpha to look HiFi is an interesting beast as it's a distributed server model with it's domains and it can also be a distributed asset model. To me it's potentially different from OpenSim which has a centralised Robust Server per grid (although recent commits by the core devs have indicated this might change a little to optionally also allow asset storage per region should that be chosen)... in that Robust is often running on less networking bandwidth than an SL SIM. Sure it's early days for HiFi but what I have seen is that speeds seem very good, certainly much better than SLV1 because they have avoided the choke point of one data centre servicing 50,000 concurrent users, even with a corel cache of assets. An SLV1 sim has a limited bandwidth - a few 1GBe or 10GBe ports of bandwidth to handle all the data from the Sim in and out, and we are talking about a lot of CAPs per user per Sim. Get 50 people into the Sim or maybe a mall with a bajillion huge textures and even with corel that centrallised model really clogs up - AS WE ALL KNOW, heh grey lag. HiFi's completely different architecure reduces that. Rather than one central point it's spread out. In theory you can then go ahead and grab data at the maximum speed your connections allows. In terms of ping lag (you press a key to turn and turn 600ms later) HiFi is by far superior to SLV1. You can set up a local domain and be in your city, a few milliseconds ping which is an absolute boon for anyone who normally gets by on 320ms to the USA and 320ms return times. Oh what a joy it is living down here and playing SLV1 for 9 years where your every movement happens 6/10th of a second after you do it! So yeah, even from Australia talking to a HiFi domain in the USA and jumping to a HiFi domain in England then one in Europe I didn't notice anything like what you suggest. At all times the performance seemed equal or better to SLV1. Sure, ping iterpolation in SLV1 helps with this, but try walking next to an American, hehe. Weirdness happens. You are in the Alpha too I gather to speak with the knowlege you suggest you have, so your comment makes me curious to have a look... let me know the domain you see are slow so I can check too, I can likely rally a chunk of TPV people to look what is going wrong. Don't get me wrong, I am sure SLV2 will be great, especially now Ebbe has clarified his words and will be aiming for as much backwards compatibility as possible. At the same time I think HiFi and OpenSim and SLV1 all have their place too in a few years time. They are all very different beasts.

gregthos wrote: I see people posting in forums they are selling thier regions for let's say $250 (plus tranfer fees). What exactly does that mean? Does LL transfer the region to you and change the name to whatever I want? And what are the monthly fees after that? Will it be $295 a month for "maintenance"? In other news: Regardless of staff, servers, air conditioning or whatever else was cited earlier, that cost is excessive. It's not out of my price range but whether or not I can afford it is irrelevant. I have rented various size lands and I am not new to SL, and the reality is that they charge too much money but have us pigeon-holed. It's a form of gouging if you ask me. Linden Labs will make their money and would probably have more people investing in private regions if costs were lower. There are groups in world where people will buy and sell regions. Initially you can buy from the lab for a huge amount of money - which covers the costs of the setup, or you can transfer an existing island from someone who owns it to you far cheaper. The latter is done in a support ticket where you both lodge one, the buyer saying who they are buying from and how much (either Linden or USD) and the seller (who might have concierge support) saying who they are selling to and how much. If both support tickets match then the Lab perform the change of ownership and transfer the agreed amount from buyer to seller (less a fee to cover their work) At the time they do the transfer the Lab will also rename the island how you like (within TOS) and also move it. I've abandoned a few homesteads in my time, they are not worth the hassle of selling, but they often sell for as little as "you pay the transfer and you can have it for free". Would I pay US$250 for a homestead... NO WAY! It's way over price. Would I pay US$250 for a full region, sure, that's about right depending on how many weeks of teir left. I say that as the teir date won't change. If the previous owner paid on the 10th of the month then you will too. Full Stop. So, as you ask about $295... I will assume a 15,000 prim full region. If you buy one for say $250 then you must pay $295 teir every month from that time on, on the teir date... if there is one day left to teir when you buy then you will pay US$250 for the island and a day later another US$295 for the teir, then a month later $295 for the teir, then a month later $295 for the teir and that will continue until you sell the island to someone else. If you fail to pay the teir your account will be locked and you will not be able to play until you pay. If you still fail to pay that recurring $295 charge then you lose the island and potentially your account. The cost each and every month is less for a homestead (US$110ish from memory), but you only get 3750 prims/LI to use, you can only have 20? avatars maximum and you can't buy a homestead unless you have a full island. Again, you can't have one unless you own and maintain the $295 full payment. Renting, as I said earlier is easier, and to be honest almost as good.

The lab batch payments to save money and time. They have always done this. Why they are different to many smaller places who can afford the staff aned time to do each payment manually is that they are processing thousands, tens of thousands of payments each week. To reduce staff costs, to reduce complexity they decided right from the start that we wait.

Hi OP, Seems you are getting some flack from people. That issue where you see vertexes coming from the (usually) centre of the screen is almost always a heat related issue. The latest drivers, maybe a month old? help a little but SL is a pretty heavy user of the graphics chip in your PC, the nature of a sandbox world where people can make unoptomised builds sadly. You may get some joy with adjusting the VBO features on the hardware tab of your Preferences>Graphics. I know in Singu there are 2 options, normally you want to turn on VBOs but turn off Streaming VBOs with an nVidia. You may find though that this comes down to that you are using a laptop. They already have limited heat dissipation, add in an unoptomised building (like someone's latest prim heavy hair) causing your graphics card to just overload things. It's very likely that every single other program you run works fine, but then they are optomised by graphiocs professionals, not left to players of the game who throw prims at a problem and then load in 1024x1024 textures as well. So, what can you do? If the VBO options are right and you have last month's driver update as well you may have little choice but to reduce your settings. The game will look terrible once you turn off atmospheric and basic shaders but the load on your graphics chip will be *substantially* lower. It's likely going to be worth your time to try it for a few day, make sure that the problem does indeed disappear once you turn off atmospheric and basic shaders (reverting to 2006 game quality). From that point you can make a descision on what to do. Some other hints that might help you, airflow will be critical so make sure you only play on a hard surface, not from your lap. Anyway, I hope this helps you a little, I am not trying to put your PC down or brush off your issue, just hope that this advice helps. Take care

Meaningless drivel. Can't speak for SLV2 but HiFi is using QT5.

gregthos wrote: I get that but you are still paying over $100 monthly. That is a lot of money, real money. I think LL are making out like bandits when it comes to land and the price the charge. And more than likely people who are renting out homesteads are people that are locked in at a different price and are making money anyway. I just get a little frustrated with this stuff because I think LL charges too much for their land and maintenance fees are a joke. Just my two cents. Thank you for the replies by the way Owning a full region isn't a game most begeinner players choose. It's something you grow into from your first 512M2 block at $5 a month, through your 4096M2 ($20) and 8192 ($40) and so on until you get to the point of spending $100 a month. Many people will have established stores that can pay that teir for them in sales, or they will gamble on a build that will get a lot of people and pay for itself in donations. If however you just want a whole sim for your house, a place that you have almost complete control over then yeah, it's going to cost you. Why? Servers cost money. Electricity, airconditioning, maintenance, staff, networking... it adds up. As an example I run an OpenGrid server as well. $80 a month to run 4 regions, but without the investment in staff. To answer your next post, you can't "own" a homestead unless you have a full region first. Honestly, rent it. Look for a real estate group you trust and pay your $30 a week for a homestead and know you can walk away from it at any time without the hassle and expense of trying to resell it, or just abandoning it, and losing all that setup money.

You need to get a newer viewer. Singu has an alpha that works with Fitted Mesh at https://files.streamgrid.net/singularity/ Otherwise, rightclick the offending/offensive avatar and derender them.

Gaia Clary wrote: So what could be better than waiting for LL to show us what they are going to do ? Let's hope they do Gaia. You are another of the most important people in SL, your work has substantially impacted SL. Not sure Prokovy would consider you FIC for AvStar and your youtube tutorials and lump in with the hated opensource people (laughs) But LL do now need to start to put a positive spin on this, lest the negativity of people like myself infect more. Me, I've been burnt too many times by the lab since 2006. Well, that's enough input from me.

Innula Zenovka wrote: Callum Meriman wrote: irihapeti wrote: maaan !!! and I am that one gets called crazy person sometimes. jejejjejeje (: huehuehue, so funny. Consider this: With this brave new world that on Day 1, when the switch is flipped and the world's press enters cameras at the ready, Why on earth do you think "the world's press" is likely to find the launch of SL2 of any particular interest? Strikes me it would have to be a pretty slow news day. As I said, I hope I am wrong and you and the others are correct. I hope that LL will allow kids roleplayers to inhabit their new world and freely move around. To be fully accepted. After all, I do roleplay as a kid and have a rather large inventory of Loki's wonderful mesh creations over all my alts. I also in the same breath hope that LL will allow the very different subcultures of Gor, BDSM, Dolcett, Rape & Capture, and other such forms of adult activity. I do this as I actually believe in freedom. True freedom of expression and self in the virtual space is crucial in my eyes to it's take up as anything more than just a time-filling game. But to hide from the fact that such a reboot is a perfect time to "sweep out the cobwebs" and sanitise the environment so that school kids on their iPhones can play it during recess, seems to me to be hiding from a path that is very possible. So, I raise the point: ebbe Linden can say to Loki - who is one of the three leading content creators in kid roleplay - that he can't wait to look at what Loki makes in SL... and I can raise the point that once he looks and sees what will his thoughts be? That kid roleplayers are harmless and innocuous (the truth I see) and very much welcome in SL and SLv2 or that kid roleplayers are sexual deviants (the truth of a vocal group of people in SL and these forums) who, along with Gor, Rape, Furries and Dolcett, pose a risk to the monetisation strategies of the lab?

irihapeti wrote: maaan !!! and I am that one gets called crazy person sometimes. jejejjejeje (: huehuehue, so funny. Consider this: With this brave new world that on Day 1, when the switch is flipped and the world's press enters cameras at the ready, fully aware of SL's past that ebbe Linden will be there proudly showing off that Dolcett area where BDSM'ers happily practice caniballism? The press, of course then move on with ebbe proudly showing them the latest Gorean creations, the image of the Master and their kajira at their feet in chains being beamed over the world's newspapers and gaming press? Rape and Capture roleplay of course will also happily be shown to the peoples of the world as just one of the many wholesome and family friendly activities that people can participate in from their phone in this brave new world. Finally the darling of Fox news and Das Speigel: Perverted kids (whom are tarbrushed as ageplayers) and the (made up,, but click bait) implication that every single one of them is a paedophile lurking in the seedy corners of the V2 world, just waiting to get up to their devious "escapades". Mmm, the new world carrying on the complete "vortex" of debauchery (in the Fox News eyes) of the old world - but this time able to be run on the iPhones of innocents at school. Come on, really, it doesn't take blind Freddy to imagine this. Anyone who considers that LL wouldn't take a chance to clean this up and sanitise it in V2 and prepare it for mass consumption, PG or M rated in it's entirity, is fooling themselves. And sadly, Kid roleplayers as a despised group will be included with the Goreans and the BDSM'ers even though we don't deserve that. LL are not going to be the facilitator of Hardcore pornography on a range of diverse devices including your phone - which can be used in places like public transport, and in the same vein they are going to avoid allowing topics like Gor, Harcode BDSM, Rape & Capture, and Kid roleplay. All of these and Loki's wonderful creations that (although completely innocent) are potentially click-bait topics. I believe we will see a repeat of what SOE have done with Landmark. You may dissagree, time will show. Will I be right in my thoughts that V2 is a perfect time to make sure that it's family friendly and able to be widely adopted without the chance of some innocent running across a bit of Priest King sanctioned mysogony or will you and your "jejejejejejee" mocking be right and the entire ecosystem of SL, including the undesirable parts be transplanted? As a kid roleplayer, I actually hope you are right and I am wrong.

Prokofy Neva wrote: People come into virtuality to do three things: a) play war b) play house c) play store. <snip> Prokofy Neva Well, as ebbe wrote, there is option d) Ebbe Linden wrote: We just want you to be able to make even better cats

Ebbe Linden wrote: Thanks Loki. I can't wait to see what you'll create in SL and then I'm just totally drooling over what you will be able to create in the next gen product! More likely that Loki and the rest of us Kid roleplayers (or Goreans or Furrys or Kidnap/Rape roleplayers) wouldn't be allowed into the new world.

Let me put it this way... We have normal residents who, now they know that SL's inventory can't be taken over and who will become increasingly aware that any money spent is 100% wasted, they, like me will reduce and stop buying. We have content creators who, to get to sell in the new world will need to rebuild everything. Years of work lost. We have TPV devs and patch submitters who now know that the anything they put into their TPVs or even right back to snowglobe could be used closed sourced. This is ethically wrong. Submissions made in the spirit of GPL and LGPL in which copyright was granted in good faith being used by the lab with a loss of opensource. Does that make sense to you now? LL has already burnt 2 sets of users, the TPV developers, a group of people LL have used for almost a decade to enhance their viewer, now look to be the third, UNLESS the lab are 100% sure not to ethically violate the GPL that I and others considered would remain in force.

Doesnt change that they are GPL and LGPL.

Oh Ebbe, one last thing I just considered. As you change the course of the Lab and in-effect abandon SL and all the money we spent over the last decade+ for your new project, please be very careful to fully obey the GPL on all code you modify or reuse from SL. You are going to be closely watched by the TPV community I would say in that regards. Oz at least has some idea of that side of it. A lot of the code in SL viewer, some of the best parts I would personally say, has come from the community itself not from your programmers. That code - if you use any of it - will force you to opensource your new viewer. Mind you, that would be a GOOD thing.

Personally, hearing this and knowing people for what they are, I will likely stop buying and creating in SL now. It's clearly headed towards being a dead world. People are going to leave for both this one or for High Fidelity. I don't mind that I have purchased tens of thousands of dollars of inventory over the last 8 years and will lose all that, it's always been clear that the game would close one day - they all do. The inventory had nice use and has no regrets attached. Just a shame that it's dead money. But now, knowing that (1) the new world will be fully closed (2) content creators are going to be urged to leave SL (a loss of new content for this world) and (3) that inventory is unlikely to come over then that's it for SL purchases. Sorry content creaors but ebbe has made it 100% clear that anything bought from this point has a VERY short lifetime. And once the content creators go from SL, nothing new is here. In the sunset of this game, I'll sit on my island with my friends, spend more time in OpenSim and increase my assistance to teh opensource high Fidelity project. (For me the choice of worlds is a partly matter of personal ethics, a fully commercial world is unappealing to me personally, just as Apple products are compared to opensourced Android) I am sure there will be a few people who follow ebbe and flow into the new world of the Lab, but there will also be those who leave for high Fidelity, I'm likely one of that group, not just ont he issue of opensource, but once burnt by the Lab with this loss of inventory I won't trust them again. In the end, with only the landbots in SL the lab will close it, erase the asset servers and destroy the code. SL11B is the last where people had hope, from now, anyone who buys any digital content in SL is doing so knowing it's a VERY limited life left on it.

Most likely it's a death knell for SL. Some people will move to the evil closed source jail of LL's new world, some will move to the opensource nature of High Fidelity, a small number will be left in the tumbleweeds and landbots here. The lab probably don't intend to close SL, but the nature of people is to flock elsewhere. This is a very sad time. Not all content will go over, most people will dissapear to other places as LL drive a stake into the heart of an 11 year old virtual world and who knows how many millions of dollars worth of content.