Atma Constantine

Splatulated wrote: so they bought me this https://marketplace.secondlife.com/p/SR-Hybrid-Avatar-Nea-Natural-Whitever122/5750762?page=1 Hmm... That's a fairly generous gift. After reading all of your forum posts and taking a quick scan of your groups inworld I can see why someone may be creeped out that people would just gift you this. I think I can figure out the rest. The look isn't all that either, a clone of anyone else using that av.

I have had this problem a few times and my internet connection checked out fine and I am hard wired to the modem. I would give it a few minutes then try and change to a different outfit if you have saved outfits, that has worked for me. Also, you may want to try and remove any tattoo layers, including makeup and replacing them one by one. if you have on an underwear layer for example that is used for a tatoo, etc and then another underwear layer for panties, that can also be a problem, just remove them and reapply them in order.

teslablake wrote: I took some pictures in SL, saved them to the computer. Then, I edited them and paid 10L each to upload them in SL, with the plans of sharing them with the person that I took them with. However, for some reason, I don't have permissions for the pictures that I PAID to uplad that BELONG TO ME. When I go to properties, under what you can do "copy, transfer, modfy" are all greyed out. What's the point in spending L on now useless textures?? Is this a bug or something I'm doing wrong? I am not sure what viewer you are using and only use Firestorm so i can't say if the menu on the viewer is near the same on any other. You should set your default upload permissions before making the texture. On the viewer go to Avatar > Upload > Ste default upload permissions. You need to make sure that you have the 3 boxes checked as shown in the picture or you can't share on a notecard or anything else, the person that will receivee your texture can't share it or they will lose it out of their inventory. Then..

The only site I would go by for actual facts is the SSA site. here is a link that explains the "Ticket to Work" program. It is vague in the explaination of how it works if you work and collect disability, if your work trial pans out, you don't receive the benefits after a short time period while working. The SSA gives you approximately a month to be at your new job before stopping benefits. IF you cannot hold the job, your SSDI case will open back up within a few weeks, so no court hearings, no nothing, you are already enrolled in the program. The book from the SSA explains it in detail on how long your benefits will keep coming if you choose to work. This comes from the official SSA handbook guide that attorneys and SSA Admiistrative judges use for determintaion. SSDI benefit amounts and rules do not vary from state to state, SSI benefits do. http://www.socialsecurity.gov/pubs/EN-05-10029.pdf

Pussycat Catnap wrote: Atma Constantine wrote: If you are disabled and receiving disability benefits, Why then you should not be making any money on the side, now should you? I hear that is quite illegal in the U.S. check with the Social Security administration. That's not factually true. Also... not so sure the prople fearing this move are the same people who push for others to upgrade. I think its much more than the issue has some people from all camps, now on varying sides on this topic. My concerns are user based: I want what I jump to to have at least the scale of community I see here. I want to be able to make a neko avatar again, and a furry - this was why I never moved to InWorldz. By the time they claim they had the ability for me to get a neko... their moment in the spotlight was passed. I don't look forward to the expensive process of buying land again - and not being able to fund it by selling my old land. And I'm particular about the nature of where I buy so I'm nervous about what will be the nature of what they offer... This is one of many reasons why I never jumped to Cloud Party... because I'm not into skyboxes. But I agree technology needs to move forward. And I've already said why I feel LLs needs to be the one behind it. It is true unless you are on the "Ticket to Work" program with SSDI. I have disabled friends that collect benefits and have gone to a hearing with one particular friend. SSI is a state level program for those who do not have enough work quarters paid into the Social Security Administration and their rules are even more strict. To me, I have seen a lot of people on various threads being the same people that have made remarks to those that could not even log onto SL without better hardware. Isn't that sort of the same concept? You can't use your inventory if you can't log on. The reason I amke that comparasion is because some people will NEVER be able to get the hardware to support SL, so at least moving to a new and hopefully, improved VW, those fearing will have a new place to reside in. Your points make a lot of sense and are understandable. I have tried other VW and none compare to SL at all, not to me anyways. I don't look forward to the expense of buying things that won't transfer, but I realize it is not my decision to decide that and if it hinders the new platform then that is LL's call. People seem to be acting like they thought their virtual belongings would last until dooms day and to me that is just not reasonable thinking. I, like you hope to keep my visual identity as close as possible, but if it doesn't happen right away, it may down the road.

I have to agree with you on this so called loss issue. I see it funny, first off that these same people complaining about technology moving forward are the same people that have always put down those who could not afford the hardware to keep with SL's updates. I guess an opinion changes when it fits the person's own situation. That is what i have seen all over this forum for years. I myself have invested over thousands of dollars into SL, but guess what? It was MY choice to do so, no one made me so when the time comes and objects cannot be transferred then it was of my own choice, still. Come on people. If you buy a car and you have it for 10 years, do you cry over the fact you can't use it anymore, or do you purchase another or find another means otf transportation? Phil has very valid points, everyone and anyone that has paid for things in SL has had to know at one point it wasn't going to be available forever. For you creators (not so much hobby creators as they fall under the category of people who use SL as a past time) did you relly think that SL was going to last forever? I mean if you are balking over whatever "investment" you made for YOUR business that hangs off someone else's actual business, maybe you need to take a RL business course in risk and management. The creators that are going to come out and say this is their only means of income need to take that RL class as well. If you are disabled and receiving disability benefits, Why then you should not be making any money on the side, now should you? I hear that is quite illegal in the U.S. check with the Social Security administration. If you are out of the U.S. I don't have a clue on benefits such as those, but using SL as a sole means of income or even part is really a bad decision. Take an online course in businees, sell on other venues, act like an adult. I look forward to a new platform and all the thousands of USD that I have paid out was worth the years of using the objects, renting the land, whatever you want to call it. This is of course, my opinion, but seems there is a lot of factual points in it.

Pamela Galli wrote: Atma Constantine wrote: All forums have ugly stuff. Nothing was mentioned about restricting anything. This forum is known for the unwelcoming way it hands to people. I only said i can understand why he didn't post here first. if you read in all of these places i would think you could see a huge difference with this forum, as some of the regular posters have even pointed out. ________________________________ I have indeed read extensively in "all these" forums (and even posted in the SLU thread the other day). SLU has many good points and people, but I do not consider it by any means a kindler gentler or more polite forum, and I very much doubt any such reputation was the cause of Ebbe posting there initially. No one said you didn't read extensively. Your opinion on the forums is yours and the forums politelness or lackthereof, either one has nothing to do with Ebbe, what even gave you that idea? maybe you didn't understand my comment to him.

arton Rotaru wrote: Atma Constantine wrote: arton Rotaru wrote: Atma Constantine wrote: I hope you take into consideration what was really built here and not just keep saying "better." We are pretty intelligent as a community. Finally, I can see why you had gone to SLU instead of this forum. Many replies and bashing speak for itself. At least I'm glad he came here and tries to reply in full sentence, and give us at least the impression he would treat us as adults. Not that his replies over here have more substance, than his "keep calm kids, uncle is buying you some ice cream tommorow, if you go to bed now" , with his "much better" only replies on SLU. :matte-motes-big-grin: He went their because the action took place there ealier. That's all. Of course it's a good thing he came to the official forum to address concerns. I was not speaking of his replies, it is the general feeling of this forum and the replies many get and for no reason at all, just rude and harsh. It does not matter who the poster or OP is. I would say you don't know why he went there first LOL unless you know him personally or recieved an email stating so? The "action" took place in blogs first. Blogs... LOL Useless arguments to the topic anyway! So I leave it at this. I wrote earlier anyway, not first.. but hey. There are useless for information regarding a company unless it is the company's blog. I wasn't aware of an arguement? Good choice to leave it as my comment was directed to Ebbe and only he has the answer.

arton Rotaru wrote: Atma Constantine wrote: I hope you take into consideration what was really built here and not just keep saying "better." We are pretty intelligent as a community. Finally, I can see why you had gone to SLU instead of this forum. Many replies and bashing speak for itself. At least I'm glad he came here and tries to reply in full sentence, and give us at least the impression he would treat us as adults. Not that his replies over here have more substance, than his "keep calm kids, uncle is buying you some ice cream tommorow, if you go to bed now" , with his "much better" only replies on SLU. :matte-motes-big-grin: He went their because the action took place there ealier. That's all. Of course it's a good thing he came to the official forum to address concerns. I was not speaking of his replies, it is the general feeling of this forum and the replies many get and for no reason at all, just rude and harsh. It does not matter who the poster or OP is. I would say you don't know why he went there first LOL unless you know him personally or recieved an email stating so? The "action" took place in blogs first.

Pamela Galli wrote: Atma Constantine wrote: Finally, I can see why you had gone to SLU instead of this forum. Many replies and bashing speak for itself. I have spent a great deal of time in both forums (and previously in the SLX/Xstreet forum). All of them have had some ugly stuff in them at times.* To screen it out would mean some pretty strict enforcement of some pretty restrictive rules, which few seem to want. That said, I quail at the rude things that have been said in this thread. (On SLX they would have been removed.) * Actually the merchant forum here, tho not without some occasional heated discussions, has been moderated very well, IMO. It has been kept mostly on topic, and insults and personal attacks not tolerated. All forums have ugly stuff. Nothing was mentioned about restricting anything. This forum is known for the unwelcoming way it hands to people. I only said i can understand why he didn't post here first. if you read in all of these places i would think you could see a huge difference with this forum, as some of the regular posters have even pointed out. I do agree the merchant and technology forums are a lot different and interesting topics are discussed. The GD forum has always been a place where the not so nice stuff seems to spew. I am not for censorship if that's what you got from my post, I was merely making a comment to Ebbe.

Medhue Simoni wrote: Deej Kasshiki wrote: I keep hearing about how this new platform will focus on content creators as king. I want to know is how us poor schmucks (like me who have shelled out real money for almost 8 years now as a Premium member) who aren't merchants will figure into the equation? The fact that the CEO spoke first with the "opinion leaders and VIPs" over at SLU speaks volumes, IMO. Yeah I know that without content there's no VW but, I also know that without people to create for there's likewise no VW. Sorry but, I don't want to be seen as just another "consumer"; an ignorant open maw that takes whatever gets shovelled down its throat, important only because it has a wallet attached to it. All I know for sure is that whatever LL is working on had better be damned compelling for me to give up potentially 8 years plus worth of accumulated knowledge (and inventory) and they'd better start making that case as soon as possible. Otherwise as news of this gets more widely distributed people will panic and will start making plans to leave what will be seen as a sinking ship. When the content creators are king, that really means the consumers are king. Content creators have to cater to the consumers. The reality is that creators are slaves to the consumer's will. My bolding is indicitave of the way you worded this. I for one appreciate content creators but they are in no way a slave to me. Is my wllet a slave to them? No. There are a few people I have a high level of respect for that allow me to have more things to enjoy SL. Those are also the creators that I would spend a lot more than what they charge to purchase an item. I am not one of the free for all mindset. If you had no consumers, you would just be playing with your toys alone and the consumers would either learn to make their things or go without and be very basic in the use.

Phil Deakins wrote: Vinten wrote: Ok let's cut to the chase and here is the bottom line, I hope LL reads this because this is and will remain unanswered: Nobody is really opposed to a better platform that will make the user experience better. What people are opposed to is the investment everyone has made into their assets / inventory from a financial perspective. If we ( the sl users ) did not by stuff and make an economy for LL to profit, LL could not afford the new platform. So now LL could press the delete button eventually on our assets to build a more expensive delete button for the future. To Linden Labs: How are you going to compensate us for this if we cannot transfer our assets? Simple enough question, simple understandable answer required . Quite frankly, that is such a sefl-centred attitude. Haven't you had pleasure from the things you bought in SL? Did you genuinely imagine that the things you bought would last forever once you'd paid a pittance for each one? You've had plenty of pleasure from each item and you should be very pleased to have had all those pleasures for such a very small cost. So, if some, most, or even all of your stuff can't be moved to SL2, just be very pleased that you've had all that enjoyment for such a small cost. Phil- Not all of us just poured in a small pittance as you say to enjoy Second Life. Not one of us in this community can put judgement on what a small pittance is or a large sum of money for enjoyment. Don't argue for the sake of argueing, if you want to start shelling out monetary numbers, let's start a thread about that and that alone on how we can judge others for their spending in Second Life.

Ebbe Linden wrote: It will take a long time. So SL will continue to be there and we'll continue to improve it. And we'll do the absolute best we can to help you all get going on the new product when it's ready. How exactly and when exactly and how long etc. we will find out with time. But we have to make this invesment in the future to make what we all enjoy much much better. Ebbe- All things must move forward, that is a simple way of advancemnet in life itself. I think you may not be understanding the frustration that all of us Residents who have been told things over the years that made us lose faith in LL for very good reason. YOU have just came on board so even if information you receive from your fellow workers there at LL I am sure and can guarantee the truth and validation is way off. SL is not just content creators, every resident plays an integral part of this community. You can create until your hearts content, but without buyers like myself and many, many others, you have created content that isn't moving. Many of us have spent a lot of money, granted it should be entertainment money and not something we could not afford to lose, BUT it is not like LL is shutting the doors to the entire company, LL is stating they are making a new improved BETTER world so there is that importance you need to understand on what we as residents value oursleves here and what made us sink our money into Second life. If LL doors were closing I could see anyone making a comment about their inventory, business products, etc..MOOT. But that is not the case. Listen to your user base and not just a select few LL seems to give privy information to, I can say that the people that have been allowed first hand information on this new plan are not in the vast majority of what built Second Life all these years, seriously. We have been treated like fools for years but still the magic that we felt all as residents of this community kept this place alive...not LL. I hope you take into consideration what was really built here and not just keep saying "better." We are pretty intelligent as a community. Finally, I can see why you had gone to SLU instead of this forum. Many replies and bashing speak for itself.

Phil Deakins wrote: If that's true, Tex, then it's a very poor reflection on people in the U.S. It's not alright to be intolerant. Intolerance is a badness. But I don't believe that intolerance the norm over there. I think that we can all show intolerance given the circumstance, beccause nobody is perfect, and that some people (the less perfect ones) are likely to show it sooner than others. No Tex, being a U.S. citizen does not excuse intolerance. I am from the US and I would not say that grouping people from the US into that type of category is necessarily true. That is like saying the reverse and lumping agroup of people into a category where in all honesty it only represents a handful. I agree, it is not an excuse or IMO valid or true.

WreckitWally wrote: Today is my 1st day on Second Life and I have a problem. When I spawned at the Welcome place, my AVI was badly distorted, missing one leg and the lower torso. The parts that were supposed to be the leg and torso are sticking out behind the AVI in a cone shape, and I have no idea how to fix it. It also hinders my walking speed. I've tried logging out and back in, but to no avail. How can I fix it? It may be helpful if you post what type of viewer you are using (can't assume it is the official viewer) and a little about your computer specs, including if you are using a wireless connection or not. I am not sure since it has been so long if you are able to choose the mesh avatar over the default avatar that was previously offered.

Aethelwine wrote: Atma Constantine wrote: Aethelwine wrote: I don't trust paypal. Every time I have used it they have messed me around taking more money out of my bank than I have asked. Ialso know people they have taken money from and then blacklisted them. From prior threads on here the paypal service in the Usa seems very different from the one they provide in europe. l will only use them as a last resort. I can't comment on the issues you have had with PayPal because I have not had those problems, I am also not familiar with any other countries limitations on the use of PayPal or their policies with PayPal. The only thing I can say is that if PayPal is used as a source to purchase Lindens and not as a one time payment option for market place it should work. The blacklist I believe from one of the threads you are referring to was in regards to purchasing "certain" items. I am not sure why that happened as PayPal is used on shopping sites that offer everything. edit to rectify a blank post from hitting enter too fast The people I know blacklisted with credit agencies haven't complained on the forums.as their problems predate and are unrelated to secondlife, except in that in one case the loss of exchanges stopped her making money for anything other than clothes shopping, where before she ran a business a full sim and cashed out. My apologies, I didn't know they were blacklisted from credit agencies, from the post and the way I read it didn't mention anything about credit agencies. Hopefully you won't have any other issues with the card you are using again. I have never used a bank card or credit card for sl so i am not sure how they process that.

Aethelwine wrote: I don't trust paypal. Every time I have used it they have messed me around taking more money out of my bank than I have asked. Ialso know people they have taken money from and then blacklisted them. From prior threads on here the paypal service in the Usa seems very different from the one they provide in europe. l will only use them as a last resort. I can't comment on the issues you have had with PayPal because I have not had those problems, I am also not familiar with any other countries limitations on the use of PayPal or their policies with PayPal. The only thing I can say is that if PayPal is used as a source to purchase Lindens and not as a one time payment option for market place it should work. The blacklist I believe from one of the threads you are referring to was in regards to purchasing "certain" items. I am not sure why that happened as PayPal is used on shopping sites that offer everything. edit to rectify a blank post from hitting enter too fast

JPG0809 wrote: By "younger" I mean at least 13 years old. I feel if LL were to lift that rule of only letting adults (people at least 18 years old) then the grid's population would increase since I believe there's a a bigger appeal for teens to explore virtual worlds like SL. Now, I'm not saying adults don't use VWs, we have around 50k users in SL on average (Also, If anyone knows, could you please tell me what was the average amount of people were on the teen grid throughout the years when it was up and running?) Then there's the question of adult content SL offers. Should SL censor it, seperate it from the rest of the grid and just create a type of red-light district and allow a larger amount of G-rated-type sims so there's more of an appeal and openness to the young user (Which I believe they did, but I was thinking more of an entire seperate grid like the teen grid but dedicated to Adult content so then you'll actually would have to be looking for that type of content), should the younger users be able to mix with the adult users like an MMO, or do you have your own input on how things should be carried out? Thank you! No I don't believe anyone under the age of 18 should be a user of Second Life. As others have pointed out in this thread, many kids have their own computers, ipads, laptops and such to connect to the internet and are usually powerful to game. Children are highly impressionable and already have peers that show them things a parent probably would not approve of, but that is a normal part of growing up. I also am a firm believer that the computer being used, whether it is a family computer or a device the teen uses to access the internet should be in a common place in the home.

Pussycat Catnap wrote: Sassy Romano wrote: Same reason that when someone posts a spam link in a group chat, 20 messages follow discussing the spammer. Half this, and half the disrespect of being presumed to be a lab rat. SL gets the "oh you are the weird people I heard were on the internet" treatment everytime by the mere fact that these surveys pop up. Why are they not posting these surveys to WebMD looking to see what kind of freaks are reading that? Why not survey every freak that uses google? Or Bing? Or all those freaks that use Yelp? Because those are the normal people... They "know" they're normal, so there's nothing to look for in surveying them. But the freaks here... even freakier than those MMO people - that's a research goldmins to explain why freaks freak, and WTF with the freaks being freaky in their freakout of a freakverse... I think people who use SL, just get tired of being thrown into the "those people with computers and fursuits and weirdness" category... "Teh Interwebz" isn't new anymore... people need to get over the fact that some people use it... This is just a 10-year old online F2P video game... move along and put your lab around a different set of rats. Why so bitter? I am sure if you look on forums related to the sites you mentioned above you would find the same type of attitude that you seem to put all thses surveys into. I am not sure where you read all this negatvity about SL, but in all the years I have only seen the RL relationships that were focused on gone wrong to be negative through the media. I don't know people who refer to SL residents or internet users as "freaks."

Ardvinna wrote: I saw the survey request, and I saw some reactions on it, but I didn't follow it till the end. In the German Forum we had also a request, not well done, too. In my opinion the surveys and the statistics aren't the right approach to examine/to investigate the human mind. It should remain an auxiliar and Statistics also. Statistics are good for counting bacteria, but not to explore the human mind! (my personal view) So I think, the reason why people are "reacting" on survey requests is this very inappropriate way to do research about their thoughts and feelings. For me it is a deficiency in the modern form of research in psychology (just check lists and tally sheets). As far as I remember, I saw only one really good made survey here. That's why most of the people are suggesting, that the students should go in sl and try out for themselves. I would also suggest something like this: a "field research": -being a while in sl, talking to the people and at the end doing their research with a combination of a survey and a narrative conversation guideline. Amethyst replied wise words yesterday to the student concerning the ethics of research; If you're doing a research on people, human beings, you have to follow very strong rules, for good reasons. What I very often miss, when students are asking here for help, is the knowledge about these rules for good research practice and I miss a structure. So possible reasons: Here in Europe we had a european wide reform of the universities. Since then the students are forced just to "produce", like on a assembly belt, seminar/project papers. Additionally you can't become a professor if you don't publish like "on a assembly belt". Teaching and mentoring students don't count for the carreer. The results are students mostly in a hurry without a mentor. But I also miss, that this student didn't read already published scientific works on sl and virtuality. So what people in the forum can do? Are they responsible for the students in the whole world? Isn't it understandable that people want to protect their thoughts and feelings? On the other hand I would help the students in world, if they would make these "field researches". But the problem is that they usually don't have the time for it! Hmm.... Why they don't ignore them? I did ignore him, but I think this wasn't right too. Perhaps there should be a wiki for them, as someone suggested. But actually it is the duty of their mentors to explain them the right way. And if they have good mentors, then the survey is also well done, as we see it sometimes here. I know you did not post to me. Many of your points seem very valid and make perfect sense. However; everyone has the right to post on here, what they choose as everyone has the right to comment on those posts in whichever way they choose as well. The OP was about ignoring the surveys if no answer or not giving constuctive criticism in a more positive way. This OP has only received a few actual responses to his question. he did not question the morals of the survey, or anything else. He just asked a simple question which seems hard for people to stay on track with the OP.

Syo Emerald wrote: Atma Constantine wrote: Phil Deakins wrote: Yesterday, a student from Warsaw posted a typical survey thread, and it got the typical negative treatment that almost all such threads get here. Later, the thread was removed for some unknown (and definitely unjust, unless the OP asked for it) reason. So I have a question about survey threads:- Why do they get such negative treatment from some of this forum's users, when, if someone doesn't like them, it's so much easier to simply ignore them? The answer to your OP lies within many of the answers you received here. There is a large group of people that can't post to a thread with a non-biased response that is constructive yet still polite. It's human nature for everyone, just many don't know how to use a filter, nor do they care to. It seems from reading the forums for years that when someone may hint at SL bringing out an unhealthy addiction people jump all over that in defense. Anything can become an unhealthy addiction if the person has that type of personality. Yes, it can* be. But defending ones hobby or pastime is on its own not a valid point to diagnose if someone is influenced in an unhealthy way by it or addicted. When we chose something as a hobby, it becomes a very personal thing and any attack against our hobby becomes indirect an attack against ourself. Of course people start to get defensive then, especially when they feel unfairly judged. I can feel annoyed and deny the biased opinion hidden within this survey without being addicted. I may just not like it, when someone comes around the corner and gives me a survey, which basically says people with this hobby are all *insert random negative thing here*. How suprising! Not everyone that does not agree with the statement of a survey is secretly addicted. *Many people who suffer from addiction are very well aware of their addiction. They realize the negative impacts it has on their life, but the main symptom of an addiction is that you can't stop your behavior anymore, even if its damageing important things, like your health. My mention was factual about how people respond to the topic of SL being an unhealthy addiction. I do not know why anyone responds that way, that would only be known by the poster as I stated. I can't diagnose if it is unhealthy or not as I do not know the person. That comment I made was in reference as to the responses the OP had received with only a few actually answering what he had originaly asked. Views on addiction vary, even the ones that realize their beast. That is a whole other topic.

Phil Deakins wrote: Welcome, Atam. It's good to have tempted you out of the hidden realms of LurkWorld Atma Constantine wrote: It seems from reading the forums for years that when someone may hint at SL bringing out an unhealthy addiction people jump all over that in defense. Anything can become an unhealthy addiction if the person has that type of personality. That thought did cross my mind - defensiveness. "Me addicted? How dare you suggest such a thing!" That sort of attitude. I've no idea if anyone has such an attitude but it did cross my mind. Tank you for voicing it. As an aside, I was most definitely addicted to SL for quite a long time after I started. And I've been addicted to other game-type things too in the past - online and offline. I even Lemminged my way out of a very luctrative business at one time. (Lemmings was a very addictive game - at least to me it was ). I don't mind anyone knowing, but I can appreciate that some people not only wouldn't want others to know, but maybe don't even admit it to themselves. Thank you. I don't know the reason behind the defensiveness, only the person that responds in that way knows. When an experience is new to someone and it's enjoyable or intriguing, I think there is always some amount of desire to spend time doing it.

Phil Deakins wrote: Yesterday, a student from Warsaw posted a typical survey thread, and it got the typical negative treatment that almost all such threads get here. Later, the thread was removed for some unknown (and definitely unjust, unless the OP asked for it) reason. So I have a question about survey threads:- Why do they get such negative treatment from some of this forum's users, when, if someone doesn't like them, it's so much easier to simply ignore them? The answer to your OP lies within many of the answers you received here. There is a large group of people that can't post to a thread with a non-biased response that is constructive yet still polite. It's human nature for everyone, just many don't know how to use a filter, nor do they care to. It seems from reading the forums for years that when someone may hint at SL bringing out an unhealthy addiction people jump all over that in defense. Anything can become an unhealthy addiction if the person has that type of personality.