Charlotte Bartlett
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16 hours ago, Prokofy Neva said:
Was this Bartlett House related to you? I don't recall it and I'm glad it survives in pictures anyway.
It is, I worked on it with Scope and Max - they did all the building and I was the "client" albeit I did some plants for the indoor garden. I was a few months into Scarlet Creative back then (started it in 2006) and Scope was the one who taught me to build when I added pool water to the house above
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I lost the Bartlett House too Scope did. painful considering it was a RL funded project and cost a fair bit in USD. It was a one off build still used in a picture somewhere by LL. I was over 3000 prims from memory but an amazing project.
This blog still has pictures of it plus other projects Scope did.
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I found this as somebody said Fallingwater - from memory he/she made the shoes when we did Sport Relief in SL - Springy Shoes - I hope those shoes exist still somewhere out on the grid - they had awesome springs on the bottom and you can run in them.
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2 hours ago, Rolig Loon said:
Natalia kept up that blog for a couple of years after she closed Sirena Hair and moved on to wherever she moved on to. I learned a lot of my early texturing skills from her tutorials and I bought a ton of her hair.
One of the first gowns I bought in SL, back in 2007, was a lace bodiced dress from Nonna Hedges. She had a high-class shop and some very elegant clothes.
I loved Nonna’s store it was so glamorous. We need more glamour hah in SL!!
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2 hours ago, Silent Mistwalker said:
I remember reading on SLU or VVO that Siggy had passed 2 or 3 years ago.
You'll have to log in to read the thread but Cris made it when Siggy passed suddenly.
https://www.virtualverse.one/forums/threads/in-loving-memory-of-those-we-have-lost-🌹❤.213/
Oh he was such a character, larger than life. How sad for his family and friends thank you for the thread link, I appreciate ❤️
I am now hoping Siggy is up there creating a huge pool party for when we join him when it is our time. Neph is such a lovely lady.1 hour ago, Scylla Rhiadra said:I was not exactly a big fan of Gala even before that . . . for other reasons.
I knew of the issue Hush copyright etc. I still loved her skins back from the day, never interacted personally.
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46 minutes ago, Finite said:
Thanks you said what I said just worded differently... But I think you're off a little on the "commercial use" term on how its defined in law. I posted an example earlier in this thread.
"I cannot use a picture of Bob Ross in an ad or as a logo for my brand (commercial use). But I can certainly sell a picture of Bob Ross assuming he was in a place where he wouldn't have a reasonable expectation of privacy (not commercial use)."
Never seen Bob Ross (or his works) in Second Life......(virtual Bob Ross would be so cool) 😁
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I was looking at some old groups today. I was in the Gnubie group (GNU Wave Architects) which some older users may remember as one of the original "freebie" stores set up in Second Life. The group still lives, but I looked at some of the members who haven't logged in (some for 10 years!). I wonder where they are today, what they are doing, if they are still being creative
Who are people you miss in Second Life? Persons and their creations....
Some names I remember and miss!
Six Kennedy - first hair I ever brought in Second Life - I think her brand was called GuRL. There was even GurlyWorld if I remember.
Siggy Romulus - Pools (and made the Swimmer HUD from memory) - Waterworks! I think he still is on SL.
Kim Manilow - made pools and decking areas (I remember her stuff when I first came to SL!) from memory left in 2013 for WOW.
TaP Shepherd - Fleur Skins - I think left in 2014
Gala Phoenix - Curio Skins
Nyte Caligari - Nyte and Day - again think she didn't do much after 2016.
Nonna Hedges. - Gowns - I think Nonna still may log on I am sure I have seen her active.
The Paper Couture designers (alts - used the family name Lu) from Tableau etc - how I miss their collections which still to be are hands down the most creative clothing ever brought to Second Life.
Scope Cleaver and Maximum Minimum - we did the Bartlett House project together back in I think 2007 or 8 - both extraordinary creative and talented folk.
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On 5/7/2021 at 3:48 PM, Milk Pixelmaid said:
It’s… not for everyone.
I have to say I am just pleased the Americans finally spelt Mum correctly (ducks)..
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I think some went down a rabbit hole as none of this is photography per the OP question: It’s screenshots from a virtual world.
Also doesn’t matter what policy I have on our commercial regions. If somebody buys one of my houses and rezzed it on their own region the only thing that matters is my license and SL TOS.
Not many creators I know have an explicit license that forbids screenshots of their work displayed in Second Life.... so this discussion I have found useful as food for thought as it is a limitation. I think always if you are doing something commercial with somebody else’s “work” get written permission first, unless you have purchased a commercial license for your specific use. However what I do have is copyright of my 3d model and creating a derivative commercial work of a copyright item is where US law does protect me.
SL isn’t really set up for this model but the closest this seems to me is where somebody buys a commercial license to purchase an asset to create their own commercial derivative work (eg you buy a 3d model house to use in a poster you sell). The complexity as you include more in the screenshot eg avatars and clothing will compound that issue.
interesting stuff to think about.
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14 hours ago, Fritigern Gothly said:
It will be complete when the biggest bugs are fixed. Bugs which were either caused by the uplift, or that came to light because of the uplift.
I seriously doubt that these bugs will be considered tackled before 2022.That’s very optimistic
the core team for making Marketplace 2.0 would be (mostly) different skill sets. I remain an optimist that, at minimum, a few marketplace issues from 2018 onwards may get some attention, but history tells me marketplace 2.0 is likely a step too far for LL at this time. LL originally said Q3 would be when they could look at marketplace again (the question is which year ha)....
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3 minutes ago, Tazzie Tuque said:
Now that would be something! I could appreciate something like that for sure. I don't know about anyone else but I find the listing process in MP cumbersome, boring, and a real chore, and that is on a day when it is working properly.
Perhaps with the recent fee increases at minimum they can start to close out 2 year plus long awaited minor features like the date just being shown in the meantime.
LL did state they would not focus on MP until Cloud Lift was complete... well it now is I believe, so perhaps we have a chance of MP 2.0 LL plans (fingers crossed). -
On 5/2/2021 at 5:33 PM, Orwar said:
It would be nice if the date of listing was visible somewhere, but yeah, no, purging the MP entirely would be .. Awful.
Like - >https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/BUG-228021
I actually wouldn't mind a purge (says the person with only a few hundred things) if it was a fully operational Marketplace 2.0 E Commerce platform that was fit for purpose and allowed dynamic uploading linked to our vendor systems in world etc. -
I honestly do not (bar items that rely on servers) understand why a creator would put this in. No creator (worth their salt) needs any of that info. We get it from our specific channels eg groups on Facebook with direct engagement with customers on what they want, features, how they want to use products etc.
I can’t help but think this is the same folk who spread misinformation about perms, copybot impact and won’t let you Rez something on the floor. Just poor practice and education. I made this point before though, so many of these types of creators base their approach on folklore not fact. The reason they do this is the documentation and information for creators is appalling from LL. There is a closed creator group on FB and it took us literally months to debunk many of these types of misunderstandings from how to use Lindex limit sells through to specific risks on IP (commercially less than you think).... we can all do better for our customers.
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3 hours ago, Marianne Little said:
This was a sneaky way to force us to use no modify hair, making the mod hair useless and put no mod versions in the redelivery. 😡
I read Seraphimsl, and saw it's a new event called [MOD]IFY. Only modifiable content.
It is becoming to look like it's nothing modifiable left to buy, creators make so much more no mod, and it is getting worse.
we are still Mod! Fashion / hair etc sadly mostly no mod. H&G rely on Mod or our stuff becomes useless to people.
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My favourite key word spam is when people put our company name into their key words when are (re)selling a different creator's gacha item. Those are the best. Flagging never removes them and I gave up in the end.
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36 minutes ago, Chic Aeon said:
Yes and then those consumers wonder why they can't move in their house :D. The folks over on the "Furnishings" thread are getting smarter -- at least quite a few of them. Unfortunately most people don't understand the consequences.
Even sadder are the creators (some of my favorites) who have moved over into the heavy mesh and texture group -- presumably because they sell more that way. If the people BUYING "Render" mesh would just retopo before uploading and use fewer textures it would be great. Happily -- now and then WITHIN "the brands" you can find some lower poly items :D. So I still "shop" -- it just often turns into and "oh damn" moment when I inspect the object.
I am wondering how those brands are going to handle the EEP changes (there I did a segue back to the OP). Hopefully -- in the next few months -- the devs will work out the rest of the major issues still inherent in EEP. I was applaud when I heard that they expected the creators to redo all (or many) of their products as needed. So much for backwards compatibility. I WILL say that I am happy with the improvements to the LOOK of EEP -- at my place anyway. I can definitely live with that.
I am still planning on installing the OS Firestorm when the FS BOM version gets retired. I can use the Linden viewer if I make another building. And I can work some in OS again (where I still get paid LOL).
In SANSAR the complete scene was baked and there were no lighting changes aavailable so THERE normal and specular maps worked really well with no odd looks depending on how the light was hitting (this for Windlight too of course - not just EEP). But we don't have that here.
I look at my old stuff, even things now 2-3 months old and always want to bin it as small little improvements. But I will sadly not be redoing any of the 140 odd houses, unless it's a complete rebuild and new release for that product unrelated to EEP. I am a hobbyist I don't have time and would prefer to just make something new. I'll just adjust newer ones to the newer "state" as I go. I still have some older houses with "sun and shadows" baked in that people still buy (who are on lower end machines and can't used advanced lighting).
EEP I did read most of the thread, I would love to try Black Dragon as a viewer but am on a Mac. The images I see created with are always amazing (so much so I might have to fire up parallels on my Mac and run windows just to have a go with it!). -
On 4/11/2021 at 5:16 AM, VictoriaRaven said:
I was eying that as they brought this out, my country wasnt eligable back then and now I aleady paid 1100$ for C4D, maybe next year until then I have to figure this out. Thanks though this is a bookmark now.
I am pretty sure you'll never really be able to what you want in Cinema 4D when it gets to this (even more so when you get to weight painting).
You would be better using Blender (free) if doing anything that involves skeleton, weight painting etc.
Also in Cinema 4D you need to just change your preference units. Then it will understand CM/M and you'll then have the proper scale.
Do not change any model size or use project scale etc unless something really does need a scale change versus translation of units.
https://gyazo.com/e307526576fab1bc39d736026f262f2bMD - Cinema 4D works perfectly on that side of things assuming you have the right version of FBX (see comment below on what version). Just ensure you are using the correct import/export scaling on import/export for FBX.
Other tip for Cinema 4D Exports make sure none of your model or skeleton is below "0" on the Y scale using World versus Object.
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15 hours ago, Chic Aeon said:
I typically use one 1024 texture for most furniture and bake a 2048 at 400. For houses I do the same bake style but one texture for the interior of a small house for example, one or two for the exterior etc.
I have to admit that now that I am "retired" I am not AS thrifty with my textures (still with my triangles :D) since "I" like PRET-TY too - LOL. But still there is a big difference between reasonable and the over the top use of both main textures and material textures by some of our most popular H and G creators (clothing too but I don't know near as much about that). So for example I made myself a little casita this last month. Only one normal map -- the tile floor. 40 land impact with LONG LODs.
When you consider that the numbers equate (or are much lower) than many SMALL pieces of decore (I have seen some with half a million triangles and hundreds of thousands of TMem) I am calling this good. LOL. Also if I wanted more shine there is always the teeny tiny blank texture that works for adjustable all over shine. In most cases that does well enough for MY needs.
I plan to spend the summer there
We all work differently and there are of course different markets. Some items made by very popular creators I just bypass. Way too many triangles (mostly unnecessary) and way too may textures. I try to gives thumbs up to the folks that are doing a great job too -- like the couch at ACCESS I just mentioned on the "Furnishings" thread :D. BUT if folks keep buying this oh so heavy mesh, creators will keep making it-- when they could be making the same mesh MUCH leaner with just a bit more effort. Time will tell how it works out.
That house is beautiful Chic!! Gorgeous work.
I am the same (and god when I look at my older items I cry - I still cry daily hah as I struggle to figure things and it's 15 years of this stuff now (well 9 odd for mesh). I should have mentioned that user case using 1024 over one item, good point!
There is a creator (no actually I won't use that word, a brand who buys their mesh, repackages and then sells it on SL) who's stuff is so complex and texture heavy it makes me really sad. The comments are always "high quality, beautiful". Perhaps, yes for a static image, but not for a virtual world in reality with SL's infrastructure.
I don't always get it right myself but I have to give Kudos to posters like you and many others here, who have helps many of us hobbyists understand more and improve on their output and products - so thank you!!
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2 hours ago, Chic Aeon said:
I am commenting in general about something I saw on the "clip" version of a comment as it rolled by but I can't find it here on this thread any longer so perhaps it was changed (and quickly at that :D).
I know we will never solve the Materials - no materials argument; it has been going on for a decade and we each have our point of view. BUT I haven't seen any mention here (and maybe I missed it) that oftentimes designers add 1024 normal and specular maps) to their objects. Sometimes SEVERAL and sometimes on SMALL objects. Each normal map -- each specular map is more texture that needs to be downloaded as well as another server call.
All this use (I was going to say misuse but that is a personal perspective again) of so many large textures, texturing parts of garments that will never be seen, adding large normal and specular maps etc is one of the main reasons we are having that lag issue. My lag days are over for awhile with my brand new and very powerful computer. But I haven't forgotten about all the folks that are having new and increased lag issues.
Some of that appears to be inherent in EEP (or at least the FS EEP as that is the complaint I hear most often, possibly because most folks are ON FS :D). Other is definitely CREATOR GENERATED and USER GENERATED (we all have choices to make here) content.
So not all creators that have chosen NOT to use materials were trying to save time. I have a very useful third party map generator that I PAID FOR (LOL) that makes lovely normal and specular maps with fine detailing in a few clicks. I used it in Sansar on almost everything. Sansar is not SL however.
I am also quite happy with EEP and my sim lighting these days. It has improved greatly and I have no plans to change it. Things under EEP definitely look different with ALM on and off however.
I did some more tests just now and this is the same hookah using the current LL viewer.
This is with ALM on under Linden EEP.
And with ALM OFF under EEP on the Linden viewer.
I can't say that I can get too excited about the look with ALM off. But honestly I have always use ALM except when my computer was on its last breaths.
Would be nice if The Lab could get things looking closer to each other. Still I am very happy with how it looks under EEP with ALM :D.
I always love it when Chic has to bring out the Hookah!
(it's a great example).
For me: 1024 textures should only be used for large things like a floor spanning a house (I use them there but only if a large floor).
Most creators can simply use 512x512 and below and have super crisp materials with some post editing after you bake out the maps esp if using Substance Painter and they have a good environment and material pipeline.
Also things like glass windows 64x64 textures are just perfect for blurry glass and that includes any specular maps etc or shine as we call it in SL terms.
On the point made about no mod and copybot.Clothing creators generally (the many I know) have a culture of non mod due to not wanting customers to recolor and to leverage fatback income (whether you agree/disagree).
H&G creators generally (should) have a mod culture as frankly people need to size things and play with animations or even if we mesh at a modular format break up builds and reuse bits. e.g. I try these days (mostly) to make all windows a single mesh that you can then interchange between builds or use in other builds you buy from other creators I don't always achieve full modular just because of some designs and my fingers run out of steam, but something I have been enjoying recently is seeing customers share their "mods" some are amazing and it doesn't matter if I like the outcome, as long as the person who purchased the house loves it, that makes my job complete and successful.
So any creator whom I have seen say the copybot thing is normally an inexperienced creator, or somebody who isn't linked into their community and peers. So just has not yet had the misinformation corrected. Any time you see a creator say the copybot/mod thing, keep educating them. Mod wins always for just keeping people engaged within SL. I have seen a huge uptick in our customers alone who are now modding and creating from things, and that's great it means they are growing an attachment to SL and being creative.As a side, copybot doesn't really impact sales/brands, most creators I know in the top and mid tiers wouldn't even give it a passing thought these days. You get the odd rampage on Marketplace when somebody does it but LL generally get the DMCA responded and the stuff off quickly and creators quickly share across the community.
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20 minutes ago, Chic Aeon said:
Linden Lab released the code that made copybot viewers possible. This long, long ago like maybe a dozen years. Any viewer on the approved 3rd party viewer list is SUPPOSED to by copybot free; known copybot viewers have been banned and removed from this list in the past.
I think from memory they didn't release the code technically at first.
In 2006 Libsecondlife reverse engineered it and Copybot was born as an evolution after that.
15 years ago - time flies!
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I don’t think it is fair to keep debating with you it doesn’t help.
Your paragraph structures mentioned FS the viewer. As I said, I hope you find a solution and it all works out.
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25 minutes ago, FairreLilette said:
Well, that's how I felt about it. I felt pressured and I also feel it was a mistake. I am not comfortable giving out that information, nor would I ever go on Catznip viewer.
Even FS has gotten accused many times on the forum here for copybotting and no one has ever denied it. Whether it's true or not...well, it makes one wonder but I still cannot know....
But, I am not going to trust a company I know nothing about with my money. NO.
And, other's should just accept somebody is not comfortable sharing their information, and move on. Deleted posts are not the end of world and no one is trolling you simply because they deleted what they feel is personal information.
- No personal information - evidence below on mine.
- No money is given to Firestorm - citation please - that doesn't happen.
- Viewers are open source (so super simple to make any viewer a copybot version). I assume you downloaded the version from the approved website for the TPV so a non copybot version. Your comment makes no sense and appears to show intent to post negative statements, without citation, to cause harm and also mislead people who read this thread.
- You obviously did trust them you used their viewer until it didn't suit your graphic card.
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Clearly you aren't comfortable, but I think that's because something is off here. I just hope regardless you get it sorted and this thread gets deleted. It is not helpful to the community or in the spirit of the community rules/guidelines.
Wish you the best with getting things working again.
See.... no personal data - clicked help, and then about.....
Firestorm 6.4.12 (62831) Dec 3 2020 16:11:36 (64bit / SSE2) (Firestorm-Releasex64) with Havok support
Release NotesYou are at 109.5, 116.5, 1981.1 in Scarlet Creative located at ec2-54-244-42-30.us-west-2.compute.amazonaws.com
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Second Life Server 2021-03-11.556847
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April 10 2021 19:15:36 SLT-
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I am so confused by this thread - why wasn't the hardware info pasted it would have taken 2 seconds on Day 1 - it's literally the first thing you do with any issue with software (any software!).
Now I am reading this, later answers from OP are blank so this thread now makes no sense. The reason threads like this "can" be helpful, is other people having similar issues will find it, read through and be able to solve things - deleting things makes this seem like a troll thread. I am scratching my head.
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they may mean their Marketplace - their store is fully empty when you look at the website. If so I would raise a support ticket as well.
Not sure when you last logged on there was something if it was x years from memory they would clear down your store if no sales - not sure if that applies in your case.
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Posted · Edited by Charlotte Bartlett
If you are selling something, you take on responsibility as you are listing something for sale and the TOS (plus US law) applies to you. The moment you enter as a reseller - you are using the platform commercially so need to do your homework.
A simple way is just Google the name of something before you buy it. The obvious things are obvious (e.g. anything Disney etc). If you can't determine if the item is "safe" don't buy it, then resell it - simple way to protect yourself.
Also know your creators. Good creators won't infringe copyright nor wade into trademark issues or trade dress etc (we also do our homework). If you find a creator who is selling things that are not permissible don't buy from them again - give them a very wide berth. A creator can always make a one off mistake, but it should only ever be that.
Those who buy the items have the same issues - it is near impossible for a consumer to know all the ins and outs. So the same advice applies.
Even then there are still pitfalls, some big name creators historically have been caught (e.g. furniture makers) ripping off 3d Models etc (so google the creator's brand name too before you purchase to resell).
Think of it as your due diligence, check out the item and creator before you purchase, that way you should hopefully know the "problem" creators to avoid which should give you some better results.
Re brand names in keywords - use descriptors where possible and only as they pertain to the specific item - keywords should be things like "pink jeans" not "Levi jeans".
If you keep a clean house it is harder for anybody to abuse flagging etc. LL are not stupid and will know if something is (mostly) a legitimate flag.