My problem with premium and the so called free land and free home

[Linera Bekes]

I refuse to pay a monthly fee on top of premium for free land. That's why.

[Ariel Vuissent]

It's up to you whether you listen to the responses of those in your thread or not. We're all (both?) telling you that you will not be charged an additional $5 for your 512m of land. The list is written poorly, I don't deny that. You're correct, it should say "additional," but they likely assume you know, since, as you say, you must have a premium membership - and thus already have 512m of free land - in order to purchase any land. 

You seem to be relying too heavily on the poorly written LL guide, rather than the experiences/knowledge of other members. I'm not certain if you came to the forums solely to complain about your interpretation of the failure of premium, or if you actually wanted some advice and personal experience, as you don't seem willing to take the advice and experience you're being offered. Either way, I wish you luck in figuring out the prices and true cost of premium. I maintain my stance that you will NOT be charged an additional $5 for your land/Linden home unless you own more than that original 512m.

[Griffin Ceawlin]

Do you have any friends who have Premium accounts and own mainland? Ask them to explain it to you. Maybe you'll believe them.

[Linera Bekes]

Since its not coming from LL who's gonna pay for it if I get screwed and the site is correct and that free land is an extra $5/month. since LL isn't stating that is not an extra $5/month, if it really is they ain't gonna fix it

[Griffin Ceawlin]

This is yet another reference, direct from LL:

NOTE: Basic membership users are ineligible to get land. Upgrade to a Premium membership and you will be eligible to get land. There will be no monthly maintenance fees on your first 512 m2 of land.

https://secondlife.com/my/account/landfees.php

Believe it.

[Argus Collingwood]

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Griffin Ceawlin wrote:

This is yet another reference, direct from LL:

NOTE: Basic membership users are ineligible to get land. Upgrade to a

Premium membership

and you will be eligible to get land.

There will be no monthly maintenance fees on your first 512 m2 of land

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https://secondlife.com/my/account/landfees.php

Believe it.

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Yes FIRST 512m2 is tier free, any land holding above 512 [even a 16m2 plot] will cause charges to the next tier level.  ;-)

[Anaiya Arnold]

Sure, the first 512 of tier is included in your premium membership. 

But if the whole thing bothers you so much, you can forego the membership, use your 10 dollars per month to buy lindens, and rent from someone else.  10 dollars worth of lindens per month should keep you in a rented home and leave you lindens to spend.

 

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Linera Bekes wrote:

Since its not coming from LL who's gonna pay for it if I get screwed and the site is correct and that free land is an extra $5/month. since LL isn't stating that is not an extra $5/month, if it really is they ain't gonna fix it

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I will pay.

And... when you don't get charged the extra $5 per month for the extra 512m you haven't got then you can pay me (:

 

[Peewee Musytari]

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Linera Bekes wrote:

Says it right here

https://secondlife.com/corporate/pricing.php



just under Land Maintenance.

says: "512sqm is $5/month"

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The tier levels shown on the Land Fees page are for "additional" land.

As a premium member you are entitled to a Tier-free 512sqm plot whether you have any additional land or not.

You can use your free 512 allowance to either have a free Linden Home or to offset partial charges on a bigger maniland plot.

So, if you bought a 1024sqm plot, you would have your 512 allowance + an ADDITIONAL 512 and you would pay $5 a month for the additional land in accordance with the land fees page.

[Lyra Blackthorne]

Not sure what you are looking at but a 512 is tier free if you are premium.  I am a premium member, have a 512 plot and have never paid $5.  I could choose to have a Linden Home instead of my land but, prefer not to live in a colony

In addition to the land, I also receive:

• Weekly stipend of linden (like a allowance from your parents)
• You receive 1000L bonus 45 days after you become Premium
• I can own mainland property if I choose..non premium members can only rent from private estate owners
• I get extend support and the ability to use Live Chat for instant help.  There is little to no help for non Premium
• Recently they also made available Premium member only Sandboxes

I get most of what I spend in dollars back in the form of Lindens and the extra benefits like service make Premium membership a good value to me

[Linera Bekes]

Gee, how nice. you have only 2 options with land: either use the stupid premade homes(which you can't mod) or rent land which cost way too much.

So much for this then. I wanted to have a home/store.

[Griffin Ceawlin]

If you opt for a 512 sqm. mainland parcel instead of a Linden Home, you have to purchase it, but you can also resell it later. You also can't have a store in a Linden Home.

You could rent land on a private estate, with no Premium account required. It would be up to the estate owner whether stores are allowed, but there are also an abundance of malls to rent store space.

But, if it all "costs way too much," perhaps SL is not for you. Might I suggest Club Penguin?

[Haldir Meskin]

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Linera Bekes wrote:

Gee, how nice. you have only 2 options with land: either use the stupid premade homes(which you can't mod) or rent land which cost way too much.

So much for this then. I wanted to have a home/store.

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Really? How is this *soooooooooooo* difficult for you? I mean... REALLY. It's very simple. Premium get 512 tier included in their sub for free, which can either be used with a standard 512 lot OR you can choose to have a Linden home. You can rent land if you are premium or basic, but that has absolutely nothing to do with tier on your account.

Actually I think if you're having this much trouble understanding, much less BELIEVING what people tell you here, you're gonna just have a blast trying to figure out how to create and market any content.

[Linera Bekes]

I don't want a crappy free home. cuz you can't remove the building thats on the land and use your own.

But the only other way is to rent the land.

 

I don't want to rent land. I want to own it, but I don't want to have the crappy free un-modable home.

[Griffin Ceawlin]

Then your options are:

1. Buy a mainland parcel, for which you will need a Premium account.

2. Rent a parcel on a private estate and deal with any covenant restrictions.

3. Buy your own private region, no Premium account required.

[Linera Bekes]

According to the site, you can only get the free home or buy a full region

Then there is the other option of renting. no option to buy land.

[Haldir Meskin]

You buy land as premium in world, not on the site. You physically go on the map and look for parcels for sale, or search advertisements for people selling land.

[Linera Bekes]

I've tried those real estate places, but you can't buy the land from them. you can only rent it.

[Haldir Meskin]

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Linera Bekes wrote:

I've tried those real estate places, but you can't buy the land from them. you can only rent it.

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Did I say anything about real estate places? No, no I think I did not.

[Linera Bekes]

real estate are the places that deal with land

[Haldir Meskin]

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Linera Bekes wrote:

real estate are the places that deal with land

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Yes, but they are far from the only people who deal with land. Have you even been in world? Have you tried turning on land for sale on the map?

[Linera Bekes]

It changes nothing, I just tried it.

[Haldir Meskin]

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Linera Bekes wrote:

It changes nothing, I just tried it.

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Then you're doing it wrong. When you turn on the option to show land for sale, you will start to see MASSIVE amounts of land for sale all over the mainland. All you have to do then is find a parcel that suits you, right click and buy it.

[Linera Bekes]

its checked and the map looks the same over the entire map.

[Griffin Ceawlin]

Oy.

Try this. May vary with the viewer you're using.

Open the Search window. Type in "mainland" and select Land & Rentals from the dropdown. Click Search. What you will see are mainland parcels available for purchase. Click Area to sort the results by sqm.

Good luck.