[The Maitreya v5 Hype(?) Thread]

Before I was notified and therefore started caring about scripts, I was commonly wearing 8 mb of them. The average person that I see is wearing about that.

So assuming that you have a modest 20 people in a sim, that's 160 mb on top of all the scripted decor, vendors, what have you. And coming in with just 1 mb (what I managed to diet myself to, without losing any everyday functionality) is a noticeable difference... But only if others also do it.

That's why I always recommend clothes and bodies and hair that's either mod or has removable scripts.

 

[Anybody else have an MMORPG background before coming to SL?]

I came from WoW. It was always the immersive nature and customisation that I enjoyed, not the gameplay.

[The Maitreya v5 Hype(?) Thread]

47 minutes ago, AyelaNewLife said:

Your argument assumes that applier layers are now obsolete, and that system layers are all you need now. 

Which is objectively false. In part because of the immense backlog of content which cannot (legally) be converted by the user to system layers, and in part because of the glove/sock/clothing layers which cannot be replicated by bodypaint-esque system layers.

Hence why insisting that well over half a decade's worth of content must now be thrown out when there exists a perfectly reasonable and proportionate alternative is puritanical. Because it is puritanical, valuing philosophical purity over practicality and presenting that as the only option.

The practical approach isn't to offer backwards compatibility for outdated technologies forever. It's to wipe the slate clean now and then.

edit: Sorry, I'm not actually this invested in it, I just hate the idea of my preferred approach being somehow "fanatical" when it seems like the perfectly logical to me.

[The Maitreya v5 Hype(?) Thread]

53 minutes ago, AyelaNewLife said:

This approach to BoM is pretty much ideal, to be honest. I know it will fall short of what the fundamentalists have been demanding for the last year or two, but this will deliver practical rendering weight savings without stripping the user of features. It's a fantastic compromise, which makes Slink look amateurish in her puritanical approach.

I'm ambivalent on the attached hands/feet issue. It's nice to remove the subtle seams (yes, they were there; and oddly more visible on low graphics settings than high), but removing the ability for people to mix and match brands isn't ideal. No real strong feelings either way, from me.

Feet autoselect is a nice QoL addition, however. And the auto-alpha logic upgrades are great, as is the splitting up of the layer sections into smaller chunks. So yeah, all in all this sounds like a great QoL update; no reason not to upgrade, bar a tiny handful of fringe exceptions.

If you have two systems that do the same thing, except one does it better to the point of making the other completely obsolete, while also using fewer resources... why include both?

It's a common-sense approach, hardly a "puritanical" one.

(though that said  it's not that much of a resource drain, not like onion layers were, so for people who really enjoy chunking away at their bodies, it's a fine enough inclusion)

[The Maitreya v5 Hype(?) Thread]

Definitely not a fan of permanently attached hands. The Maitreya hands are, or at least used to be, not... Great, compared to the competition, while also very heavy to render.

I know you can hide them, but that's still tons or polygons that aren't even visible.

Otherwise it seems like a good update.

[Sometimes I Despair of the Mainland]

4 hours ago, Raspberry Crystal said:

...and no sky junk below 2000m!

Honestly I'd say 1000 meters, the higher you go the more jittery all objects get, and it gets really noticeable around 2000.

Plus 1000 is a fine number where they're not generally visible from even aircraft.

[When did you last see a Bellessarian home available?]

Campers do seem more or less constantly available. Probably because they're only 512sqm, I'd imagine.

 

[Sometimes I Despair of the Mainland]

Just now, Raspberry Crystal said:

Which bits of Belli would you keep? The covenant, the gaps between properties and the landscaping?

Along those lines! It doesn't have to be the exact same details, but generally the "no plywood boards and junk randomly tossed about" kind of rules, no excessive script usage, no aggressive ban orbs and such. And yes, gaps big enough to at least walk through.

[Sometimes I Despair of the Mainland]

What I wouldn't give for Bellisseria style mainland but without the linden homes. :(

[Make Memberships more attractive to creators.]

I'd love for it to be more attractive to residents.

I mean, you get 1024 of land, the improved customer support and the stipend, but those are equally useful to both consumers and creators. The rest of the benefits aren't really... anything.

[Necro threads - what's the big deal?]

The fact is that generally on the internet, resurrecting old threads is preferred to starting new ones if it's about the same topic.

The "necro" complaint is more an SL forums thing, and some other, very niche, ones.

[A Quick Tour of the Mainland, Premium Home Continents, and Zindra]

I really do need to explore Second Life more. I'm not entirely sure if I've ever even been in the eastern lands. Everyone I've ever known lives in Sansara.

Well, or private estates.

[Last names nearly here - and more. Yay!]

21 minutes ago, rasterscan said:

One word two syllables. Soon

But but... "Soon" only has one syllable...

[Unpopular opinions]

6 hours ago, LittleMe Jewell said:

Anchovies cannot possibly work with anything. 

I will eat them straight out of the can if I have to. >:|

[Avatar script count limit on homestead]

Script memory is what I go by, personally. Even with all bells and whistles a technically adept user shouldn't have more than 1mb, but you have to have some leeway for casual users. 5mb or so is, I think, a fair limit and what most people fall around.

Script time is also an option, but it fluctuates a fair bit. 0.1-0.2ms seems like a fair range, though.

One big problem is that a lot of creators, particularly those making women's clothing, will not let you delete recoloring scripts and the like, so people tend to have far more of them than needed, and it's not the user's fault. But that's how it goes.

[Unpopular opinions]

16 minutes ago, rasterscan said:

Um. Are we talking Mesh avatars, Cinos ?

Yes, mesh bodies. I can't think of a lot of bodies that aren't mesh these days, but I suppose I should've specified!

[Unpopular opinions]

1 minute ago, rasterscan said:

B and L brand

May I ask what B and L brands are ? Scuse' my noobness.

That's what the brand names start with. I'd rather not give the full names here since some people do like them and might feel targeted, which isn't my intent.

[Unpopular opinions]

Here's my most unpopular SL opinion I think: Out of the popular bodies, you really shouldn't wear the B and L brands at clubs and events.

All the other ones are fine, really. Those two are the equivalent of driving a monster truck in morning traffic. Sure it's great if you're the only one doing it. If everyone did it nobody would get to work.

What I'm saying is they're grossly unoptimized and laggy, as much as I love the shapes they're only really usable for private photography and encounters.

[What are some of your pet peeves?]

I don't know if I'm just feeling more grumpy than usual but creators rigging non-tail bento items to the tail bones.

Lots of people in SL have tails! Nekos, furries, demons, even a lot of humans have some kind of tail items. So rigging your wiggle nipples, hair and unmentionables to the tail bones makes things break.

Rig to the hind legs, almost nobody uses those.

[Preferred Mesh Body to Use?]

Slink physique or hourglass, the latter more often. Mostly because they're beautiful enough while not excessively laggy.

I do own the Freya and Maitreya but until they get updated to remove onion layers they sit in my closet like some kind of ghoulish trophies.

[Animesh Hair]

I'm not sure why they wouldn't just have separate animations playing while you walk to make it move regardless of walking animation.

If it did that, I'd buy it. As it is, no.

[What are some of your pet peeves?]

Those things that shove you off the landing point in some stores.

I mean, I get it. Some people just stand there forever. But I don't like being shoved the moment I rez in.

...sometimes I turn on movelock, stand  there for a few seconds while it attempts to push me, and then move on my own. >:|

[SL things you're glad don't exist IRL]

Having to rearrange my skin layers for my makeup to show.

[Voice Verified?]

It's not like voice verification for gender means anything. Regardless of who you are, you can train your voice to sound pretty much exactly like the opposite gender with some daily practice.

It's just such a weird thing to demand, and the thing is, sure, for a lot of people, real life gender might be important, but that's going to be on the table anyway before you actually start a serious relationship. Meanwhile demanding someone to get on voice, especially before you get to that point and particularly the shy introvert type common in SL, is just invasive and doesn't prove anything.

[TMP Legacy mesh body]

So in other words, the only possible course of action is buying the thing and loving it, otherwise the consumer is at fault one way or another?